Does Banks really manipulates us? - page 3.

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Quote from: Hamphser on April 27, 2023, 05:07:30 PM

But the good side is, if you do make out some personal loan and if you do make out some investment then you could be able to grow it then thats really an advantage since you could really make out some hedge
and make out some benefits if you do really know on what you are doing but if you are taking up some loan for the sake of some leisure and some liability purchase then you are going to fuck
up yourself later on.

I agree on this. You are right. The rich people do take loans from banks, but they use it in such a way that they never get mixed up with the matrix. They have the ability to pay back the loans in time without giving them the interest they charge over time. Also they use that money to make more money.
As long as you play the smart game, you can stay away from the system, thus stay away from the matrix. But the banks specifically target those who are unable to do that. They collect all the information and comes up with a scheme that will keep them with the matrix.

So yeah, you are pretty much fucked up if you have no plans on how to manage that money to make good use of it and spend it all on luxury.

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Banks are the center of finance so that whatever the banks do will be difficult to prevent, they control the circulation of money and can regulate economic conditions to improve or worsen, of course with the support of the state which makes their role even more difficult to fight.

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I believe Banks play very crucial role in financial system, by proving a range of services for economic activity and growth, such as payments, money transfer and credit facilities. It is also important to note that manipulation is used as a tool in every kind of business and banks are not an exception. As a matter of fact manipulation has been a part of human society throughout the human history, and it not necessarily always a negative thing, it can also be used for positive purposes, such as marketing companies can use manipulation to promote environment friendly products.
We should always remember that we are not living in a perfect society and there are many areas which need improvement and we shroud contribute our efforts to address these issues.

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Quote from: gaston castano on April 27, 2023, 11:59:06 AM

I've watched a video about how banks work, and it can be said to be very terrible and only a few people know about it, and the burden is given to many people so some may not feel this awkwardness, but what is clear here is that we are told to pay what the government do today, of course we pay for it from taxes.

Actually, these banks are really working under the government because they can't get any permits or continue their businesses if they don't follow the governments instructions. Simple as that! While banks may be private or government owned, that doesn't really matter, because in my perspective, it's just a disguise from the government to give them our precious money in the guise of safe keeping which is not really the reason why they want to lay their hands on our money.

I believe that even if that certain funds is under our name, we don't have any full control of it as long as we don't have it in our own hands. The moment we surrender our money for them to hold is also the moment where we lose our control over it.

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A little bit of recommendation for you here is to go read the Fiat Standard and then, do sure we'll to read the Bitcoin Standard ,and then, compare between them both that which puts you more in control, in power of your own hard earned money.
You'll be much grateful if you under the good deeds Nakamoto or whatever group he had did to help us GTFO of the Fiat system/ standard.

Banks are shit, ( Yes, we'll hsve to fall back to fait for day to day fait usage ) But then, they're all in these together together with those big big billionaires who doesn't give double f*cks bout how damned you're we'll be. Yes, Banks really manipulates us.

The month of march was very excruciating one for most low class and average Nigerian who has no high scores with the banks, having money and not being able to spend it was so much hazardous. For once, I regretted being a goddamn Nigerian.
You should really take your personal time to see the damages banks joint with the government has really done to frustrate us.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 28, 2023, 05:43:53 AM

Banks have been into this kind of financial extortion for a long term because they feels that we have no alternative to financial freedom than in using them, they hike fees and charges, place ban ad restrictions on user accounts, track and reveal our private details to others and use them against us, the introduction of cryptocurrency with bitcoin had made things changed for good, people can now have financial freedom and exercise control over their finances in the economy.

And even now that there is Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, banks still manipulating people and keep extorting their money. What actually can you do about it? It is not everybody that knows about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. And those that know about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency does not use it very well as it is supposed to be. Even if you you use it very well, you still need to fall back to fiat in order to spend your money in the society that you find yourself. So the bank extortion and ill treatment will continue to be in as much as they are centralized and works in synergy with the government.

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Banks have been into this kind of financial extortion for a long term because they feels that we have no alternative to financial freedom than in using them, they hike fees and charges, place ban ad restrictions on user accounts, track and reveal our private details to others and use them against us, the introduction of cryptocurrency with bitcoin had made things changed for good, people can now have financial freedom and exercise control over their finances in the economy.

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Quote from: Ansu5801 on April 15, 2023, 01:27:49 AM

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Banks have an important role in the economic financial system. They are where customers deposit money, lend money and conduct other financial transactions. Banks typically own large amounts of money and other financial assets, and can use them to invest or generate profits. These investment decisions can affect the stability of the economic and financial system and cause far-reaching effects. Investors also play an important role in the economic and financial system. They consume the products and services of businesses, create a money supply, and invest in other financial assets. The investment decisions of investors can also affect the financial supply and stability of the economic and financial system.

However, it is incorrect to accuse banks and investors of being the sole cause of the complexity of the economic and financial system. Various factors contribute to the complexity of the economic and financial system, including changes in technology, market structures, and complex regulatory requirements.

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Quote from: ultrloa on April 26, 2023, 06:42:23 AM

Because maybe they are blaming banks for what economic hardship they are facing now and they think banks manipulate them that's why they came to that point. While the fact is if they could just use those credits given by the banks for sure they will never be in bad position and maybe gain something huge from it.

People need to realize the bright side about bank existence since they are there to help people to have capital on their business, but its just other people use their credits to buy their wants and that make their life hard especially if they can't pay all their debts anymore.

That's not the issue though, I hate banks as well but for a very legit reason and that's not really anything to do with me personally. I hate them because they take almost all the money in the world and store, if you remove all the money in the banks, and just keep the ones that are out of the banks, we would probably be left with less than 10% of the current circulation.

It means that banks are getting more money than they are giving, digitally you do have money on your account but without giving anyone anything they make a profit. They take your money, and your money could be cash, you can withdraw cash, you don't, you give it to them to earn interest, and then they loan it to bunch of different people, and not even give them the cash, they just give it digitally. So they just shift money around and make a profit, that's shady. If everyone around the world withdrew their money from banks, they would not be able to pay it, which makes banks a ponzi, nothing more.

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on April 27, 2023, 05:01:28 PM

Banks does manipulate us, but in a way that they will always be the savior. We are not taught in any school or college how they do it to us, and we are fool enough to trust them, thus becoming a part of the whole system. Banks are just another element of the matrix system.
We are the ones who give them the opportunity to fool us because we have no knowledge about it. And they happily take that opportunity to manipulate us. The banking system is broken. They are still here because we are the one using them. They use targeted audience in order to use various offers and services to lend them more money and making them more in debt.
We can talk about this kind of scheme all day long. But to answer the question, yes, they do manipulate us and people who are still using them are the cause of that.

Manipulation on the sense that they are lending out people money who had stored up and using up their service specially into those money that had been deposited. They do offer out some annual interest but those are just peanuts unlike on the interest that they are asking on the time that they would be granting up some loans specially on car loans which their annual is playing around 12% as far as i remember which is something that shit if we do really able to make ourselves that aware on how much we've been paying which is more than on what we do anticipate.

But the good side is, if you do make out some personal loan and if you do make out some investment then you could be able to grow it then thats really an advantage since you could really make out some hedge
and make out some benefits if you do really know on what you are doing but if you are taking up some loan for the sake of some leisure and some liability purchase then you are going to fuck
up yourself later on.

tjtonmoy

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Banks does manipulate us, but in a way that they will always be the savior. We are not taught in any school or college how they do it to us, and we are fool enough to trust them, thus becoming a part of the whole system. Banks are just another element of the matrix system.
We are the ones who give them the opportunity to fool us because we have no knowledge about it. And they happily take that opportunity to manipulate us. The banking system is broken. They are still here because we are the one using them. They use targeted audience in order to use various offers and services to lend them more money and making them more in debt.
We can talk about this kind of scheme all day long. But to answer the question, yes, they do manipulate us and people who are still using them are the cause of that.

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It's true that the workings of banks and the financial system can be complex and opaque, and it can be difficult for individuals to fully understand how these systems work and the impact they have on the economy and society as a whole. Additionally, government policies and regulations can also have a significant impact on the financial system, and taxpayers may ultimately bear some of the costs of these policies.

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All of these are ways for money to move about the economy as a whole, not just banks, which make up a small percentage of it. And when we generalize investors, they have other businesses to which they are related, either directly or through their investments in or connections with the banks, in addition to performing the role of an investor. The hard fact is that we cannot, and even if we did, it would not change the fact that elites or wealthy people would always be at the top of the food chain, alongside average and poor people, and that we are all consumers who fundamentally contribute more to society as a whole.

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Quote from: ichsan ardi on April 26, 2023, 05:13:14 PM

no bank is matrix for example if you want to move 1 million $ to another country there you will see the level of bullshit from banks a lot of rich people complain about that I prefer to save my money in bitcoin because we ourselves control our money not your key not your coin and the bank is not open anytime but bitcoin is open 24 hours I think the bank is just a place to exchange our money that's all
just my personal assumption

For me the bank is just a temporary haven for my money before I withdraw it or transfer it to another place. Because personally I also don't really like to keep money in the bank for a long time, especially considering that banks are not open for 24 hours unless only ATM machines can be used by bank customers. But in general there are still certain limitations when using it and it can also have problems such as the slow network used by the bank and I have felt that before at my place.

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I've watched a video about how banks work, and it can be said to be very terrible and only a few people know about it, and the burden is given to many people so some may not feel this awkwardness, but what is clear here is that we are told to pay what the government do today, of course we pay for it from taxes.

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Quote from: slapper on April 26, 2023, 03:51:56 AM

Well, well, well, looks like someone's been guzzling down conspiracy cocktails!

I feel there should be logic behind the same, a lot of things get started as hearsay and become full blown conspiracy theories while they are pretty simple in reality, but tough to explain to common folk. Unless you get a proof of something it is better to keep shut about it.

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Fact is, these schemes? They're to help folks, not to craft shady economies or fatten the rich. Blame the abusers, not the scheme. And about spending, ever heard of "consumerism"? We're swimming in a sea of ads screaming buy, buy, buy! It's not so easy to just zip the wallet.

It only becomes an -ism if you are getting "consumed" by it. Focus on things you need and keep luxuries only the a minimum and that should reduce costs. It will not work for everyone and in every country, but it is worth exploring. Often one family member will try to do this while others dont and that becomes frustrating.

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But hey, your cheap weed point? Spot on! Maybe some should splurge on a better, classier strain

Or better not do any of that to be able to think rationally and logically and "weed out" the conspiracy theories.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 15, 2023, 07:33:20 AM

Quote from: Ansu5801 on April 15, 2023, 01:27:49 AM

what is mateix?ok i know what it is, mostly i have seen the videos of how people make a video, with secrecy music tune and they will make such anxious looking moves in the video like they are saving themselves from someone and they will say, we are the ones who manages all the un-necassary things to control your life such as

1. House Schemes
2. Sports cars
3. Fashion Industry
4. Plasma TVs

ok, if they made these things which they didn't because every mentioned item has its own history. let's just say, they were created as mentioned in their respected histories and then controled by investors.

because every new technology needs investors.

so to understand how banks can manage those things?

first we need to understand how investors can control them? i think maybe because they have share in the company and the one with more share, and more money is the one with more governance and control so they can convince companies and project makers to deploy such schemes such as TVs, Sports cars races, fashion contest and housing schemes.

Ok now investors need a system to flow there money via *banks* Which means banks is the main component of all centralization, capitilism and flow of money.

Then why people like Andrew Tate are kept saying to leave the matrix and come to reality. are we really in some kind of matrix. what is the important of this matrix. like we should consider the pros and cons of each over if matrix do exists

The main question is if there is. a. matrix then why it is present? what's the real need of it. how it benefits those big investors that controls banks. Ok lets say it keep the people busy just like the "roman games" (from insta video) why people are to kept busy and why not.

i find no error in doing work because that's how we will revolutionize in technology. and can acheive more success and easiness in our world.

wait wait. Easiness like IOT has provided us as an tech ology. and collecting our data so that they can make such decisions to sell more things to us. But why? maybe to earn money. but if they have already money to invest in first hand then why not saving it for future why doing such immoral works?

so are u saying these works are immoral?

overall my question is why banks are being accused as matrix and the investors are the ones behind all this?

banks are not the matrix. the whole system is, I believe. Banks are considered a part of the system because you can easily control people by the use of money (greed/ fear), and no institution can control and circulate money other than central banks. Investors are behind all this for a simple reasons, that their large funds, means billions of dollars kept on banks. Once they put in or out, it would cause a large gap or fluctuations in price. One more thing. The money that doesn't exist but you can use. The all known generational debt. It is all controllable by the banks.

no bank is matrix for example if you want to move 1 million $ to another country there you will see the level of bullshit from banks a lot of rich people complain about that I prefer to save my money in bitcoin because we ourselves control our money not your key not your coin and the bank is not open anytime but bitcoin is open 24 hours I think the bank is just a place to exchange our money that's all
just my personal assumption

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many say yes banks do that, but they do it like using magic so anyone who listens will follow what they say, fortunately until now I have never followed what the bank said, maybe if I want to do business and need money I will borrow money from they.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on April 26, 2023, 12:57:46 AM

Schemes are made to help people in the first place, its not their fault that some sub-economies come up from that scheme in order for some more people to profit like mortgage and associated housing market.

I dont understand why you are linking spending of money with banks - spending is your own choice, be it through a bank or through crypto. If you dont spend you dont get into the problem you speak of.

You can only get manipulated if you take the step, meaning the choice is yours to make. You could live on a simple TV or a simple car and avoid buying expensive clothes if you want to.

If you put your tinfoil hat on, and think in the terms that everything is this world is created to harm you, then obviously it seems that way. You need to stop taking that cheap weed mate.

Because maybe they are blaming banks for what economic hardship they are facing now and they think banks manipulate them that's why they came to that point. While the fact is if they could just use those credits given by the banks for sure they will never be in bad position and maybe gain something huge from it.

People need to realize the bright side about bank existence since they are there to help people to have capital on their business, but its just other people use their credits to buy their wants and that make their life hard especially if they can't pay all their debts anymore.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on April 26, 2023, 12:57:46 AM

Schemes are made to help people in the first place, its not their fault that some sub-economies come up from that scheme in order for some more people to profit like mortgage and associated housing market.

I dont understand why you are linking spending of money with banks - spending is your own choice, be it through a bank or through crypto. If you dont spend you dont get into the problem you speak of.

You can only get manipulated if you take the step, meaning the choice is yours to make. You could live on a simple TV or a simple car and avoid buying expensive clothes if you want to.

If you put your tinfoil hat on, and think in the terms that everything is this world is created to harm you, then obviously it seems that way. You need to stop taking that cheap weed mate.

Well, well, well, looks like someone's been guzzling down conspiracy cocktails! Fact is, these schemes? They're to help folks, not to craft shady economies or fatten the rich. Blame the abusers, not the scheme. And about spending, ever heard of "consumerism"? We're swimming in a sea of ads screaming buy, buy, buy! It's not so easy to just zip the wallet. But hey, your cheap weed point? Spot on! Maybe some should splurge on a better, classier strain

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