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I think yes. Becoming a parent will make them more responsible for their life and they will save their money for their children instead of wasting them in some casinos. Being a parent is a good experience for all of us because it does not change our mindset but also our life

Precisely.But it's really hard to be a good parent somehow.The lifestyle we used to do while we're still single will just change in a sudden.And we should nothing to do with it but change for the better.Or else all your bad habits like gambling will be absorbed by your kids thinking that it will bring them good also.Kids are very keen observers so as a parent,we should be extra careful with what we have shown to them since we are considered models for them.

I think i agree with you guys because parenting comes with responsibility and so whoever be it the man or woman after becoming a parent tries to shun off some irresponsible attitudes which hitherto would have allowed and so i think in a way it will affect the gambling life of any gambler who becomes a parent.

Shit load of responsibilities bro. By the time you start thinking of all the expenses, the bills you have to foot, the children starting school all the way through till they get to their adulthood and capable of taking care of themselves, you will really be very careful of the way you just blow money into some insensible things most of the time and even if you want to gamble at all for the fun of it, you will still find a way to limit it.

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As a role model though, you should show that you are someone they should look up to. Being a gambler is not bad of course, but it does not really set a good example.

This is true, we should set an example to our kids and we must be the role model for them. There are good and bad results for exposing your kid early in gambling industry.

Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

Even if you gamble pretty low amounts, the fact is that it could lead to you child thinking that it is alright to gamble. He may grow up to be someone who gets exposed to gambling early and result to him being addicted to it.

This is one of the bad result that I'm saying.

Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

You are correct that there is a chance they do not turn into an addicted gambler, but still you cannot discount the fact that there is a chance he can get addicted to it. It is better to uphold an image that you do not gamble so when the child grows up, he will think to himself that his dad/mom did not gamble so why should I?

I'll set an example, my father is a drunkard but to tell you the fact, I didn't grew up as a drunkard. This is why I've said that there are kids that aren't affected even they have a gambling parents.

Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

I cannot dictate any parent on what to do, because it is their sole decision what to do with their kids but it is something I morally feel to be right to tell parents.

Right again, they are all big and they know what's best for their kids.

I commend you for not following you father's foot steps, you are a great example to the kids if they know that their grandfather was a drunkard but not their father. I do agree that every person, even your own flesh and blood, will have a different tendencies in getting addicted or not into whatever like gambling, drinking, or, worse, drugs. But the best thing for a parent would probably still be guidance.

I, for one, have tried drugs and I am not too proud of it and regret doing it. I was young and the peer pressure was hard, but when I did try it I did not get addicted and, believe it or not, I did not enjoy it. Probably thanks to the inner voice I hear. I hear my parents talking in my head telling me it is bad to take drugs. Well and good, I never did it again.

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Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

As a role model though, you should show that you are someone they should look up to. Being a gambler is not bad of course, but it does not really set a good example.

This is true, we should set an example to our kids and we must be the role model for them. There are good and bad results for exposing your kid early in gambling industry.

Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

Even if you gamble pretty low amounts, the fact is that it could lead to you child thinking that it is alright to gamble. He may grow up to be someone who gets exposed to gambling early and result to him being addicted to it.

This is one of the bad result that I'm saying.

Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

You are correct that there is a chance they do not turn into an addicted gambler, but still you cannot discount the fact that there is a chance he can get addicted to it. It is better to uphold an image that you do not gamble so when the child grows up, he will think to himself that his dad/mom did not gamble so why should I?

I'll set an example, my father is a drunkard but to tell you the fact, I didn't grew up as a drunkard. This is why I've said that there are kids that aren't affected even they have a gambling parents.

Quote from: michkima on April 03, 2018, 05:44:13 PM

I cannot dictate any parent on what to do, because it is their sole decision what to do with their kids but it is something I morally feel to be right to tell parents.

Right again, they are all big and they know what's best for their kids.

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Quote from: bhadz on April 03, 2018, 04:27:44 PM

I'll put myself in the situation. I'm not comfortable to gamble with my young one and I don't want him/her to be like me. However there are things that we need to enjoy and there's no need to hide it as our kid grows. Adults are changing, kids are developing and there are kids who are growing up on a place where they are influenced by their parents but there are also those kids that aren't affected whether they were grown up by their parents into a gambling place. Parents must give their best to their kids and we all have different meaning and ways of parenting.

As a role model though, you should show that you are someone they should look up to. Being a gambler is not bad of course, but it does not really set a good example. Even if you gamble pretty low amounts, the fact is that it could lead to you child thinking that it is alright to gamble. He may grow up to be someone who gets exposed to gambling early and result to him being addicted to it.

You are correct that there is a chance they do not turn into an addicted gambler, but still you cannot discount the fact that there is a chance he can get addicted to it. It is better to uphold an image that you do not gamble so when the child grows up, he will think to himself that his dad/mom did not gamble so why should I?

I cannot dictate any parent on what to do, because it is their sole decision what to do with their kids but it is something I morally feel to be right to tell parents.

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I'll put myself in the situation. I'm not comfortable to gamble with my young one and I don't want him/her to be like me. However there are things that we need to enjoy and there's no need to hide it as our kid grows. Adults are changing, kids are developing and there are kids who are growing up on a place where they are influenced by their parents but there are also those kids that aren't affected whether they were grown up by their parents into a gambling place. Parents must give their best to their kids and we all have different meaning and ways of parenting.

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Only those who are parents can actually answer this. But as I have heard from others, it think the same as you but I have also seen many people who do not care about their children or anyone else. Actually, in this world there are all sort of people. Many might change themselves after getting a child but some may remain the same. However, I wish even those people who are not parents, leave this game because it is a useless activity.

Normally, there is just a stage you get in life that maturity just kicks in even though does not apply to everyone as some would not even know what they really want in life anyway which is what makes them to act the way they do sometimes.

Nevertheless, from my own personal view, I have always believed that becoming a parent would somehow change you and even if you used to gamble recklessly before, you will have to start considering your life pattern for the sake of your kids.

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This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

Genes has nothing to do with gambling. My family are really fond of gambling, but I am not. Maybe some may think that gambling addiction is in their blood line because most of their family members are enjoying gambling.

This kind of fatalistic way of thinking is a big mistake the fact that all your family does something does not mean that you need to follow the same path and this applies not only in the negative but not on the positive as well, I knew a family in which everyone was a doctor and they were trying to push their kid to be a doctor as well but he didn't wanted to do it because he did not like it and wanted to be something else, so you must remember that we are completely free to choose our own fate.

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Quote from: automail on April 02, 2018, 11:00:17 PM

First of all, a text message saying that he won't gamble anymore doesn't mean anything if he didn't do what he says. Gambling addiction is so hard to control but an unborn child can give the gambler a sense of responsibility. Every parent wants their child to have a comfortable life. Gambling can be a hindrance on achieving your goal because we all know that gamblers bet everything they have and go home with empty pocket.

This is the one of the strongest reason here the parent if addictive to gambling can also quit the gambling if they understand the value and importance of the addition to their family members and also means the expenses will be rising. SO nobody would like to waste the money on gambling where you tend to lose more than winning.

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Quote from: Kabul on March 27, 2018, 06:10:34 PM

A parent knows his/her responsibility on his/her family and therefore, I believe that many people who become father/mother will stop gambling. Raise their family is the number one aim. Do you want your child be affected by our bad hobby ?

I feel at the end, it just depends on the individual and how they perceive parenting. I have seen some who after becoming a parent, just still prefer living the kind of crazy life they have always lived as youth and they always end up regretting it which sometimes could have become too late. I see a parent who does not put the child first in everything as a grossly irresponsible one, so I believe someone in his or her normal sense should be able to cut off somethings once they become parents.

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This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

Unfortunately, gambling is a disease that needs help and support to be overcome.
But it is not absolutely genetic, while a person can be influenced if he sees other people playing.

When one kid sees his parent gambling and losing money, and then screaming out with a lot of worries and sadness, coming out of the casinos with much pain and pale face coming home, how will he interpret his parent? Do he still think that I will be doing the same or not? So here are two aspects. One, he may start hating the game as it has ruined his father, secondly, he will be getting motivation.

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First of all, a text message saying that he won't gamble anymore doesn't mean anything if he didn't do what he says. Gambling addiction is so hard to control but an unborn child can give the gambler a sense of responsibility. Every parent wants their child to have a comfortable life. Gambling can be a hindrance on achieving your goal because we all know that gamblers bet everything they have and go home with empty pocket.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 20, 2018, 11:29:58 PM

This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

Yes some changes gambler becoming parent because they think about their kids future. They think how to give them a future But some parents only think of their selves. All they know is to do What they think for their own goodness.

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This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

I think that in this situation genes do not play any role, it's all about upbringing. If the future father refuses gambling and will not show his child such an example, it is unlikely that the child will gamble only because his relatives are avid gamblers. If the child becomes a gambler, the reason for this will be the social environment in which he lives, rather than the genetic characteristics of his organism.

If he does become a gambler, he will hardly want to do it with his father. After all, both will understand that this dependence is not very good. I think they both will be uncomfortable and the situation will be awkward.

Other factors will come to play as well, such as the financial situation of the family.

Normally, a son of a gambler would feel resentment for their father’s actions, and would choose to refrain from gambling all their life with the thought that gambling has ruined their life. This would of course be different if he had a different outlook toward’s his father’s gambling, such as if it was their way of bonding or it has improved their life for the better. It all comes down to how the son will deal with it, and react to it after.

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Quote from: JL421 on March 29, 2018, 02:26:59 PM

That differs from person to person what is better is to quit gambling after you are a parent because you have more responsibilities towards your family when you are alone even if you lose your funds you are the one who get's affected but now everyone is getting affected
He can't still gamble occasionally but on regular basis it is risky

I agree that it is better to quit gambling when you are already a parent.Because being a parent is not that easy i need to provide all the needs of my baby, i need some saving for unexpected situations like for hospital bills,medicine etc. So as a parent i really dont have the right to use my money for nonsense because gambling is not a safe and sure source of income, it is just timing if its your day or not. Your only option here is either win or lose.

But unfortunately some ordinary people that has no permanent source of income are the one that is more addicted in gambling they dont care even their only money is limited.

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It's fine if that father can't give up gambling. As long as he's doing his duty as a father and he's responsible on what he has. Gambling can give temporary fun and as well as source of money to those who are really in situation that he needs quick money. There are people who are earning that much, good experience, happiness and they are satisfied. We are not just the same on what we like and what we really need.
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Just a update my friend returned back to playing with us, it turned out his wife and he decided that he could gamble but with new rules in place. From what he told us they have made a couple pact wherein he's not allowed to gamble beyond a certain limit and only on occasional days. Each one of views are much appreciated I guess we'll won when he came back and we'll know how to deal with kids as and when the time comes.

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Genes have nothing to do with gambling or addiction. It is all related to the psychological nature of the human being. There are many sons who are not like their fathers. Their fathers are addicted to smoking, their sons do not smoke at all. It is their own will and choice whether or not to follow their fathers' path. And if his dad does not want him to fall into gambling addiction, then he should raise him in the right way and teach him the bad effects of gambling, and eventually, it will be his decision.

Bbut being a father will certainly make a few changes. this is a small example of my surroundings. my friend is a liquor addict and also a gambler addicts but when he is married and has children. his life is 360 degrees different you know ? no liquor and gambling anymore. of course that changed him for the better is to be a dad right? there may be a self-awareness to teach their child better.

What your friend have done is very right thing because before marriage he was single and their were no responsibility but after marriage and getting child make more responsible to knowing this leaving all bad habits is a good thing. I was also before marriage leaving freely without any burden but when i got married i just stopped drinking and gambling. Now only for fun some time play gambling just to kill time.

Responsibility is something that can make your life if you want to change yourself. People who become aware of their responsibilities never face disappointments in their lives however, the people around them respect them much more than other people and think about them that it was much good form to become like him. And there is no bigger responsibility in your life than the kids you get after the marriage.

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Not really. I have a cousin that does not have a job and even after having 4 kids, it does not still make him think that he needs to change and stop on what he's doing.

There are gamblers that can't give up their own hobby just because they became a parent. Even here in my place I've got some relatives who are not stopping in gambling even they have a bunch of kids to feed and to take care off. It all depends, they can still gamble but they have to be responsible and provide all the things that their kid/s needed.

I think if the first time that you had your kid there going to stop your hobby for a while but once you are back and probably your child is already capable of being independent it would come back. I agree with your statement that you can be still responsible as long as you are giving the kids what they really need especially in order to have their education.

You can stop for awhile so that you can focus taking care of your kid. If you're a hands on dad or mom then you have to sacrifice gambling for it. I think this isn't really an issue for those people that are starting to have kids. What matters is on how you are going to take care of that kid while it is growing. Are you going to allow him to know gambling and be like his dad/mom?

If God has blessed someone with such a gift as child, he must pay attention towards it. Parents are responsible for all the basic needs of a kid. That baby should be the top priority. But if someone still does not give up gambling, it is fine as far as he is taking care of his child. For such people, I have just one thing to say, they need to look around and see real beauties of life. Gambling cannot give as much fun or relief as a kid’s smile can.

It's fine if that father can't give up gambling. As long as he's doing his duty as a father and he's responsible on what he has. Gambling can give temporary fun and as well as source of money to those who are really in situation that he needs quick money. There are people who are earning that much, good experience, happiness and they are satisfied. We are not just the same on what we like and what we really need.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 20, 2018, 11:29:58 PM

This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

Ever heard the term the fallen fruit never fell far from the tree? The point is, a child will tend to have properties like his parents, dude.
But I never believe it, well if you do gambling and in witnessed by your own child I think it could happen your child becomes a gambler also in the end.
Depending on the way he educates his child, this is an advanced era and his son can learn to gamble by surfing the search engines even though his father stopped to gamble.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 20, 2018, 11:29:58 PM

This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

Genes has nothing to do with gambling. My family are really fond of gambling, but I am not. Maybe some may think that gambling addiction is in their blood line because most of their family members are enjoying gambling.

And I think that also depends on their living conditions, of course., the flows of life or as time goes by with the various situations that exist will also carrying or directing it where the way must be taken, and that also might be can avoiding gambling although their parents like gambling.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 20, 2018, 11:29:58 PM

This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.

Genes has nothing to do with gambling. My family are really fond of gambling, but I am not. Maybe some may think that gambling addiction is in their blood line because most of their family members are enjoying gambling.

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