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Quote from: YOSHIE on April 03, 2020, 10:41:14 AM

In my country there is a song about gambling, the lyrics: "Gambling promises victory, gambling promises to lose" why the fun is always banned, gambling.

Gambling is like a coin that has 2 sides.

This can be applied to gambling too that it can give you profit (other side of the coin) and it can give you losses (other side of the coin). Unfortunately, most of the gamblers often experiencing the other side of it which is losses for some reasons so for me, I don't see any reason to overcome the bad side by the good side.

Quote from: ampere on April 03, 2020, 10:17:50 AM

Because practically, 70% of gamblers lose dailies, which makes the bookmakers even more rich.

Probably more than what you said. I don't see anybody who became successful just because of gambling because most of them are ending up losing their money on it.

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I think some people will still try to playing gambling even if they know the positive and negative side of gambling games. Some of them can control themselves in gambling because their purpose is not for making money. But for some other people, they become addicting because they cannot control themselves and they spend their money to play gambling more and more. As long as we can control ourselves while we are playing gambling, we don't have to worry or afraid.

Those negatives and positive side of gambling is just a reminder for all the gamble players. I know that all the gamblers know these two sides and still playing. I agree that we should regulate ourselves even though it has a positive sides. We have the saying that "too much is bad for everything". Just have a control on yourself when playing gamble.

too much positive side is bad ? when you win too much , i dont think its bad but its good because you have alot of money and you can recover your losses .

other positive effect of gambling are having fun , make friends , etc but too much of some of this positive effects isnt really good anymore like for example when your enjoying too much , you can now forget your obligations on your family and on your house holds . so yeah control is all .

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Quote from: traderethereum on March 26, 2020, 11:25:24 PM

I think some people will still try to playing gambling even if they know the positive and negative side of gambling games. Some of them can control themselves in gambling because their purpose is not for making money. But for some other people, they become addicting because they cannot control themselves and they spend their money to play gambling more and more. As long as we can control ourselves while we are playing gambling, we don't have to worry or afraid.

Those negatives and positive side of gambling is just a reminder for all the gamble players. I know that all the gamblers know these two sides and still playing. I agree that we should regulate ourselves even though it has a positive sides. We have the saying that "too much is bad for everything". Just have a control on yourself when playing gamble.

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Quote from: ampere on April 03, 2020, 10:17:50 AM

I think no matter how we try to quantify the advantages of gambling, i am not sure it can be more than the negative sides.
Because practically, 70% of gamblers lose dailies, which makes the bookmakers even more rich.

if more than 70% of the people in the gamble world made a profit, then I think the gambling sites would be broke. That is why the disadvantages are more than the advantages and few people are able to profit from gamble. I usually accompany channels from people who have been in the gamble world for a long time and these people give lessons on gamble. interestingly I don't see these people predicting the results of the games and I don't see these people showing how much money they have made over the years. But they sell books and courses. What makes me think that the number of people who really succeeded in the gamble world can be very little

Quote from: ampere on April 03, 2020, 10:17:50 AM

Until gambling provides proportional profiters to losers, it still has more disadvantages even without listing them.

that's why I look at gamble for fun and don't create high expectations

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Quote from: ampere on April 03, 2020, 10:17:50 AM

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Because practically, 70% of gamblers lose dailies, which makes the bookmakers even more rich.

i thing it is more even higher up to 85% of gamblers losses everyday and only 10-15% wins but not assuring High winnings because i have been in casino for many years and in my observation it is smaller percent won bigger amount.

Quote from: ampere on April 03, 2020, 10:17:50 AM

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Until gambling provides proportional profiters to losers, it still has more disadvantages even without listing them.

the question is will this be happen?Nope it wont and never.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 01, 2020, 10:41:42 AM

The government and the gambling casinos always have precautionary advice to people who are gambling and no good side of gambling can overcome its negative sides, because the side is something we don't want to happen to ourselves to our family and to anyone we knows because can end up your life in big misery.

Agree with you everything is good as well as you are doing it in limit so gambling also has some side effecrs that nerds to be recover by our skulls and making money from it. If gambling is getting you earn more than your expectations then it means you are at good but if its about all lose better stay away from it as its not suitable for you.

If you already losing a lots of money it's time to assess and understand that this venue of activities is not going to bring any good to you, time to move away to avoid losing more money and time. There's a need of seriously taking things to consideration remember that if you are treating this place as a source of your entertainment you should always have a limited budget to use and not to exceed from it.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 01, 2020, 10:41:42 AM

The government and the gambling casinos always have precautionary advice to people who are gambling and no good side of gambling can overcome its negative sides, because the side is something we don't want to happen to ourselves to our family and to anyone we knows because can end up your life in big misery.

Agree with you everything is good as well as you are doing it in limit so gambling also has some side effecrs that nerds to be recover by our skulls and making money from it. If gambling is getting you earn more than your expectations then it means you are at good but if its about all lose better stay away from it as its not suitable for you.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on April 03, 2020, 10:41:14 AM

In my country there is a song about gambling, the lyrics: "Gambling promises victory, gambling promises to lose" why the fun is always banned, gambling.

It turns out that gambling falls on either side, to win or lose, and couldn't be determined by exact probabilities. I just can't understand the phrase "why the fun is always banned" in here.

Quote from: YOSHIE on April 03, 2020, 10:41:14 AM

Well for that many things that think gambling is fun and with a lot of money, it is common to get distress, negative and positive always haunt gambling addicts, if you win in the game of course positive gambling accompanies you, if you end up in the negative defeat and destruction that you feel.

It means: gambling promises to be positive and gambling promises to be negative, basically the individual himself is assessing these two factors.

In addition, it depends on a person if the effect of gambling will turn out to be positive and negative. There's a clue here, we can actually decide which path we would like to take, either positive or negative, depends on how we perceive our loss or wins. In such a case that we feel that we start on losing too much, we can stop, in that way, we can prevent ourselves to be affected negatively whenever our funds gets all consumed. Or to control positive in such a case that we are winning too much but we are still gambling it and not enjoying the profit that turns out for us to lose what we've won.

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In my country there is a song about gambling, the lyrics: "Gambling promises victory, gambling promises to lose" why the fun is always banned, gambling.

Well for that many things that think gambling is fun and with a lot of money, it is common to get distress, negative and positive always haunt gambling addicts, if you win in the game of course positive gambling accompanies you, if you end up in the negative defeat and destruction that you feel.

It means: gambling promises to be positive and gambling promises to be negative, basically the individual himself is assessing these two factors.

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I think no matter how we try to quantify the advantages of gambling, i am not sure it can be more than the negative sides.
Because practically, 70% of gamblers lose dailies, which makes the bookmakers even more rich.

Until gambling provides proportional profiters to losers, it still has more disadvantages even without listing them.

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In my own aspects in life, before we join in gambling we also know the positive and negative impact on it. Staying people to play gambling will depends on the perspective who are playing it, because if they feel that playing gambling will give them happiness it would be difficult for them to get off in gambling. Some gamblers are based on their standing in life, because if they are rich so that they have a lot of money to used in playing gambling.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 01, 2020, 06:08:11 AM

At the end of the day, everything boils down to moderation. Gambling could be considered good for as long as it does not go beyond moderation. If a gambler is already hooked onto it to the point of spending time and money more than what is moderate, that would already be bad regardless of whatever positive things gambling could give.

Gambling is opposite of the word Moderation, in my opinion. Taking big risk in casinos doesn't sound like moderation. This is why I prefer to call it Betting rather than Gambling as soon as I realize the difference. Unprofitable and regular "high" bettor can be called a gambler. And a first time or short bettor who bet with amount he/she can't afford to lose is gambler too.

Is gambling necessarily extreme? I don't think so. There must be a moderate kind of gambling or one which does not really cost you a lot. Gambling does not really mean you are addicted to it or you are wasting your wealth over it. Gambling could just be a little hobby, right? It's just that the prevailing impression or connotation of the word gambling or gambler is of a person whose life is wrecked by it. Or is it?

By the way, is there a significant difference between gambling and betting? I think they are both the same.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 01, 2020, 06:08:11 AM

At the end of the day, everything boils down to moderation. Gambling could be considered good for as long as it does not go beyond moderation. If a gambler is already hooked onto it to the point of spending time and money more than what is moderate, that would already be bad regardless of whatever positive things gambling could give.

Gambling is opposite of the word Moderation, in my opinion. Taking big risk in casinos doesn't sound like moderation. This is why I prefer to call it Betting rather than Gambling as soon as I realize the difference. Unprofitable and regular "high" bettor can be called a gambler. And a first time or short bettor who bet with amount he/she can't afford to lose is gambler too.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 01, 2020, 03:06:05 PM

Quote from: robelneo on April 01, 2020, 10:41:42 AM

The government and the gambling casinos always have precautionary advice to people who are gambling and no good side of gambling can overcome its negative sides, because the side is something we don't want to happen to ourselves to our family and to anyone we knows because can end up your life in big misery.

I agreed with your points, if you are addicted on gambling then it will ruin your whole life. so, take it just for a game, we played it just for fun and don't be addicted.

this advises should be given in Newbies and Noobs but for the long term players?they already knew about this but only denied to follow.

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 01, 2020, 03:06:05 PM

If you take gambling just for a game and a way of entertainment then it has not that much negative side.

absolutely and i totally agreed that gambling must be for fun and not for profiting that's for me is a No.

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 01, 2020, 03:06:05 PM

Because we play a lot of game and bet in our daily life and it has no harmful effect.

but what made me think is this,what is 'We Play and Bet A lot'?this will be Harmful if you do so don't contradict your own post.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 01, 2020, 06:08:11 AM

At the end of the day, everything boils down to moderation. Gambling could be considered good for as long as it does not go beyond moderation. If a gambler is already hooked onto it to the point of spending time and money more than what is moderate, that would already be bad regardless of whatever positive things gambling could give.

That's correct, gambler would be safe if they will always put a limit, limit every time they gamble, either they win or lose because you don't wanna lose control along the way just because of your greediness. That's the main reason why we do wrong decision in gambling because we want to win more when winning and will not stop when we are losing, most likely we will just ended up losing with this kind of attitude.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 01, 2020, 03:06:05 PM

Quote from: robelneo on April 01, 2020, 10:41:42 AM

The government and the gambling casinos always have precautionary advice to people who are gambling and no good side of gambling can overcome its negative sides, because the side is something we don't want to happen to ourselves to our family and to anyone we knows because can end up your life in big misery.

I agreed with your points, if you are addicted on gambling then it will ruin your whole life. so, take it just for a game, we played it just for fun and don't be addicted. If you take gambling just for a game and a way of entertainment then it has not that much negative side. Because we play a lot of game and bet in our daily life and it has no harmful effect.

There are no benefits on getting addicted not just on gambling but on other games especially if you can't control yourself.

Playing just for fun is easy to say but in reality, it is very hard to apply when you are in the table already. If you are winning consecutive times already, your mind will change and you will become more greedy since you felt that you are winning already. Taking gambling as a form of entertainment will not affect you that much but if you take gambling seriously especially if you are addicted into it then you will feel the negative sides of it. Just gamble for fun.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 01, 2020, 03:06:05 PM

Quote from: robelneo on April 01, 2020, 10:41:42 AM

The government and the gambling casinos always have precautionary advice to people who are gambling and no good side of gambling can overcome its negative sides, because the side is something we don't want to happen to ourselves to our family and to anyone we knows because can end up your life in big misery.

I agreed with your points, if you are addicted on gambling then it will ruin your whole life. so, take it just for a game, we played it just for fun and don't be addicted. If you take gambling just for a game and a way of entertainment then it has not that much negative side. Because we play a lot of game and bet in our daily life and it has no harmful effect.

Therefore, when you only make gambling as entertainment, then at least that is a point for you to be able to overcome the negative side of gambling with the positive side of gambling by gambling just for fun. So, as long as the gambler has control and the other players only make gambling for fun, then that's when gambling is no longer something negative as feared, because gambling becomes positive and or negative it depends on how you treat gambling in your life.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

Gambling affects us through positive and negative. I know there are so many gamblers that are really used in gambling on which they have already experience many things while gambling and for sure they have experienced good sides and bad sides of gambling.

I just want to list down all the positive and negative things of gambling:
Positive:
1. Gambling will let you think analytically and logically.
2. Boost your decision making.
3. It will let you interact with other people which is good for socializing.
4. Gives you happiness and entertainment
5. It can be a source of income.

Negative:
1. It will make you unproductive in other things.
2. It may destroy your life if you get so addicted on it.
3. It will lessen your time spending on your family.
4. You may lose your money.
5. Some says that it will lessen your reputation.

It made me realize, do positive things will let you stay from gambling?

Frankly speaking most of the time the good side of gambling cannot overcome it's negative side because there are many who got addicted in gambling and there are very few who always win in gambling compare to those who losses. Therefore those positive sides can't stand against the negative side of gambling.

That is if we are going to talk about the majority but with regards to individual, the outcome will be determine by us on how we are going to use those positive side in order to overcome all the negative side of gambling.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

Gambling affects us through positive and negative. I know there are so many gamblers that are really used in gambling on which they have already experience many things while gambling and for sure they have experienced good sides and bad sides of gambling.

I just want to list down all the positive and negative things of gambling:
Positive:
1. Gambling will let you think analytically and logically.
2. Boost your decision making.
3. It will let you interact with other people which is good for socializing.
4. Gives you happiness and entertainment
5. It can be a source of income.

Negative:
1. It will make you unproductive in other things.
2. It may destroy your life if you get so addicted on it.
3. It will lessen your time spending on your family.
4. You may lose your money.
5. Some says that it will lessen your reputation.

It made me realize, do positive things will let you stay from gambling?

I think postive effects of gambling will overcome the negative effects of it. Even if you can survive your financial problem with your family using gambling, they won't feel it because you don't have enough time for them. It may also your source of income but it can be also a source of having debt. It will boost your decision making but you cannot decide to have time with you family. It can make you happy but the people that arounds you are not happy for you. Think before gamble or it will kill you.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 01, 2020, 10:41:42 AM

The government and the gambling casinos always have precautionary advice to people who are gambling and no good side of gambling can overcome its negative sides, because the side is something we don't want to happen to ourselves to our family and to anyone we knows because can end up your life in big misery.

I agreed with your points, if you are addicted on gambling then it will ruin your whole life. so, take it just for a game, we played it just for fun and don't be addicted. If you take gambling just for a game and a way of entertainment then it has not that much negative side. Because we play a lot of game and bet in our daily life and it has no harmful effect.

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