Does good side of gambling overcomes its negative side? - page 7.

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Quote from: naikturun on March 28, 2020, 07:22:34 AM

depending on where you react if you are single and do not have anything above your own life I guess you will not have a problem gambling, different if you are married of course your time will not be productive.
because you have to take care of children or communicate, vacation.
so you determine when you play and when to stop.

It will rely on how we will let gambling run in our life. OP enumerated almost all what individual been through if they let it happen into them. We are the one who can turn the negative into positive depending on what our lifestyle is. I prefer gambling only at times I don't have any activities to or only if have spare time but when I'm around family I usually take more time to them than do gambling.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

Negative:
1. It will make you unproductive in other things.
2. It may destroy your life if you get so addicted on it.
3. It will lessen your time spending on your family.
4. You may lose your money.
5. Some says that it will lessen your reputation.

I guess we all have to know more the negative side compared to the good side, this way we will enjoy gambling and we can do it responsibly.

I highlighted that top 3 as that's the most important things to me and I don't want to experience that because I am addicted in gambling.
Losing money, is alright as long as we are not addicted as it's normal to us gamblers, we win or lose, that's the only possibilities.

About reputation, I don't really care that much as I don't care what others would say.

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The list you gave is quite specific but the most overcoming thing that we all could agree on is MONEY.

Addicted to gambling (Negative) but you are Winning (Positive)
No time for priorities (Negative) but you are Winning (Positive)

Money is always going to be a positive thing if you are winning. That's the goal right?

For me as long the gambling gives you a problem then, that's consider as addiction/problem. Money is needed when you want to gamble but it isn't always the goal. Personally, sometimes I just gamble for fun or just to entertain myself, if I lose then it's okay, but if I win that would be great! On his list, those positive and negative, for me are nothing. As long as gambling is giving you a problem then, it's a problem. Simple as that.

Yeah you are right!

As long gambling doesnt affect you in any negative way then it should be fine but if it already compromises things then its an another thing.
Same as you said where negative and positive things arent really that a serious things yet gambling is always intended for entertainment.
I agree on some points on here that risk or negative thing isnt really that equal into its positive side.

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Quote from: Ailurophile on March 28, 2020, 05:32:52 AM

Most of the time we would just ignore the negative side or negative effect of something that we would do if we are having fun.
I think all of us have done it before, Ignoring the negative impact or outcome of what we have done.
And there are so many reason why we keep on coming back to gambling.

It's the satisfaction and excitement that influence a person to continue gambling in spite of its unfortunate consequences. They disregard how it affects their way of thinking and health condition because they are having a good time. It's the reason why people should have self-discipline while gambling because addiction can affect not only your financial status but also your health.

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depending on where you react if you are single and do not have anything above your own life I guess you will not have a problem gambling, different if you are married of course your time will not be productive.
because you have to take care of children or communicate, vacation.
so you determine when you play and when to stop.

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Most of the time we would just ignore the negative side or negative effect of something that we would do if we are having fun.
I think all of us have done it before, Ignoring the negative impact or outcome of what we have done.
And there are so many reason why we keep on coming back to gambling.

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Quote from: crwth on March 28, 2020, 02:54:51 AM

The list you gave is quite specific but the most overcoming thing that we all could agree on is MONEY.

Addicted to gambling (Negative) but you are Winning (Positive)
No time for priorities (Negative) but you are Winning (Positive)

Money is always going to be a positive thing if you are winning. That's the goal right?

For me as long the gambling gives you a problem then, that's consider as addiction/problem. Money is needed when you want to gamble but it isn't always the goal. Personally, sometimes I just gamble for fun or just to entertain myself, if I lose then it's okay, but if I win that would be great! On his list, those positive and negative, for me are nothing. As long as gambling is giving you a problem then, it's a problem. Simple as that.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on March 28, 2020, 02:47:22 AM

People just trick themselves into thinking there could be any sort of good side. Bad side is clearly the winner here because it will lead to you literally ruining your whole life if you get addicted to gambling.

I suppose it is not all that awful if you are not addicted and can limit yourself and gamble within your means but even with that in mind, if you saved up all the money you would otherwise gamble and use that to invest into something, you would have probably made a ton of money from it and probably would have a passive income by now. Since many people prefer gambling over investing, those people are literally postponing their own retirement to a further date by losing the money instead of using the money. I guess even that alone should be enough.

Sometimes we are having a good time into the market of the cryptocurrency and we gained a lot of income and profit by that but not all the time we are winning our plays and but still sometimes the luck is not with us and this may cause of losing. There is a chance that even we have a good side into the world of a gamble and win a lot of games having a one lose or even consecutive loses may cause of losing to the momentum and this may cause of having a bad day or bad mood on that situation still it is better to take some rest to avoid getting pressured and refresh your mind and self about the things happen just focus toward to your possible earnings.

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The list you gave is quite specific but the most overcoming thing that we all could agree on is MONEY.

Addicted to gambling (Negative) but you are Winning (Positive)
No time for priorities (Negative) but you are Winning (Positive)

Money is always going to be a positive thing if you are winning. That's the goal right?

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People just trick themselves into thinking there could be any sort of good side. Bad side is clearly the winner here because it will lead to you literally ruining your whole life if you get addicted to gambling.

I suppose it is not all that awful if you are not addicted and can limit yourself and gamble within your means but even with that in mind, if you saved up all the money you would otherwise gamble and use that to invest into something, you would have probably made a ton of money from it and probably would have a passive income by now. Since many people prefer gambling over investing, those people are literally postponing their own retirement to a further date by losing the money instead of using the money. I guess even that alone should be enough.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

Gambling affects us through positive and negative. I know there are so many gamblers that are really used in gambling on which they have already experience many things while gambling and for sure they have experienced good sides and bad sides of gambling.

For an activity, habit, hobby or anything to be declared negative to the human race, it's negative effects must have outshine the positive effect of that things since everything has a positive and negative side to it. When an activity like gambling which iis quite addictive and can't be put under control that easily is declared negative you just have to agree to that fact.

The positive effect aren't that much of a fixed effect but varies depending on the individuals gambling so it can't be said to be a benefit on a general reasoning. For the profit aspect as a positive effect of gambling, while not everyone profit from gambling per se but when it comes to losses, majority has experience this at some point as a gambler.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

I just want to list down all the positive and negative things of gambling:
Positive:

5. It can be a source of income.

for Desperate person?yeah it can be source of income but only if you know that consequences .

but for the one who really knew gambling?this is not applicable as a source of income.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

Negative:
1. It will make you unproductive in other things.
2. It may destroy your life if you get so addicted on it.
3. It will lessen your time spending on your family.
4. You may lose your money.
5. Some says that it will lessen your reputation.

all of these will take effect if you are an addicted gamblers but if now?this is different thing than a normal gamblers.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

It made me realize, do positive things will let you stay from gambling?

at some points Yes,if we are aware of all things that gambling can bring and we are ready to accept consequences .

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For a normal gambler who isn't addicted in any way, the positives outweigh the negatives surely. But for those who are into gambling solely for winning and not gaining anything apart from mone, the negatives will surely reign in the end.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

1. Gambling will let you think analytically and logically.

This, to a certain extent is true. It's not only limited to gambling games which will make you think analytically and logically. Bankroll management also needs consideration and analytical thinking--whether you can still play a game or two or not.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

2. Boost your decision making.

Again not necessarily confined to a gambling game. You can make good or bad decisions by just continuing playing without regard to your funds.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

3. It will let you interact with other people which is good for socializing.

If a gambling site has its own trollbox, I guess.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

4. Gives you happiness and entertainment

It does and I consider it as a form of entertainment and not see it as something that can entirely replace my paycheck.

Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

5. It can be a source of income.

Right, no.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

-snip-

1. Gambling will let you think analytically and logically.
2. Boost your decision making.
3. It will let you interact with other people which is good for socializing.
4. Gives you happiness and entertainment
5. It can be a source of income.

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I am just going to point out how your positive affects on gambling points actually has many wrong aspects.
1.Logically? Lol. Do you really think logic works based on luck? You might have all your logic, but if you are unlucky you are bound to lose the next round.
2.This boost will only affect you negatively. Your decision making skill will always ponder around benefits (since you will be thinking about profits only).
3.Casino isn't the best place to socialize. There are other ways that you can use to socialize with people.
4.True, but can cause the opposite.
5.And this is when people starts to go astray.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on March 26, 2020, 10:01:33 AM

^ Definitely right but all of these were depends on you. You can manage your self from addiction and since from the start, you are already aware of those consequences that probably happen which is a negative or positive outcome for you. For number 3 of negative impact, it also probably results in losing your family and becomes your life miserable. Nevertheless, controlling your self and motions is the best key to avoid those negative impacts. It sounds good if all are a positive effect at your side.

I certainly agree with you. Things will still depend on how you deal with gambling appropriately. The most important thing that you have to do is to control your emotions and discipline yourself. Note to self that being greedy won't make you rich and gambling still has its risk regardless of your winning status.

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Quote from: Eugenar on March 26, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

1. Gambling will let you think analytically and logically.

Not quite sure about this one lol.

It really depends on your game of choice, there are no strategies when it comes to pure games of luck, therefore all the analysis and logic in the world does absolutely nothing to affect to win chance.

Anybody who says otherwise clearly dropped out of school.

The only game that I'm aware of that really does this is Poker, since you're playing against other humans, and the rake is the only amount you lose. The bluffing and statistics element makes it possible to win even when you've got a bad hand.

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Honestly if you can limit yourself to a level that doesn't hurt you, I do not see what the fuss is about. Sure if you become an addict and destroy your whole life, get fired, get divorced, live a shitty life and all of that typical addicted person things, than yeah that is obviously bad. However not all gamblers are like that. My father in law has been gambling for over 50 years and he is still doing fine, he even gamblers a quite lot amount for me as well but he is still fine. Why? Because he knows when to gamble and how much to gamble and thats how he can continue, if he loses too much in a row he lets his finances recover first and continues to gamble afterwards, if he keeps winning back to back he just continues without a trouble like nothing happened and uses his winnings to wager further until he loses all.

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In the end, people gamble to gain satisfaction, and they can achieve that feeling via various activities. Almost all negative side of this satisfaction seeking activities are from an overdose, or too much doing that stuff. That said. If people keep a balanced life, I don't see any negative aspect of gambling.

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Quote from: swogerino on March 27, 2020, 10:19:12 AM

I think negative effects are far more common in gambling than positive ones.The only way to overcome negative effects of gambling is to fill your time with positive activities,playing with your family and children,spending more time with them,learn a new language etc.In other words fill your time with other activities and keep gambling for only a really small time.

We only need to read some information online, even some stories shared on forums are clear enough about the boundary between the good and the negative of gambling, the good side is too little while the negativity is rampant, and another reflection is that the good side can turn into negative very quickly, as long as we gamble over time we will notice this. The good side of gambling cannot cover or compensate for its flaws, so to overcome the negative can only be to give up, don't think that we fill up time with different activities that can be overcome, it only makes us psychologically inhibited and ready for the explosion in gambling

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