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December 18, 2023, 04:10:52 PM
#83
I am not one to make many online bets or bets on sites unless it is on authorized platforms but with fiat money, because I don't know much about sports, in football I only bet when it is the World Cup or the Champions League, but that is because I really like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea, because they are European teams that I see play very well and have a lot of fame, but I don't know much about the local leagues, but this makes me remember that I can do anything if I know It is important to study how to do it to understand what the bases are for betting, the knowledge that must be acquired, I have many friends who talk about the players and their ways of playing, perhaps that's where they figure out how to bet.

When you bet just because I like a team, it is not the right thing to do, because you have to go further, perhaps technical aspects, fans know a lot about the technical, but when they are not with cheats or fixes it is easy to realize, and that's a shame, everything is lost.
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December 18, 2023, 02:32:34 PM
#82
This is the reason why I dont bet on a minor league anymore, there is a risk that I may place a bet on a fixed match when betting on the minor leagues.
And when that happen, the bet will be void and the account might be marked by the system then trigger a KYC and casino blocked the account.
btw here is the example of match fixing from some sports, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents
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December 18, 2023, 02:02:41 PM
#81
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Since you have mentioned, a league that we place our bets, do you mean a league that was listed in most bookies?

I'm pretty sure all of my followed leagues that was covered by most bookies are fair and square. Maybe there might be some concerned calls and issues on some particular games or match but not to the point it will be considered as game fixing in general.

By the way, if that thing was in your mind, do you mind sharing your followed leagues that you think always have a controversy?
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December 18, 2023, 01:50:38 PM
#80
I am not sure if I understand this correctly but what I have observe if I am not wrong about this one is that this is very common with boxing matches. Promotions wants more audience and money so they fix matches to further raise some profits and if you are placing bets on a specific team or league this means a 50/50 win or loss but most of the time the winning team or the defending champion will suffer a controversial loss just to have a stupid rematch.

Do you actually think that they made the decision on fix matches for boxing, i think this is only common with sports like wrestling and not boxing, while game like soccer doesn't work by this strategy, they can choose to make their promotional efforts through other means but when the spectators knows that they fixes matches base on that purpose, they may not get their target crowd as expected eince they had already known their plight towards fix matches, so all these features aren't applicable on many games than we thought.
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December 18, 2023, 01:43:39 PM
#79
Does match fixing concerns me? Not in a slightest chance because I’m not a bookie. Regardless of fixed match or not I will still bet for unknown result in the end so a predetermined result won’t change that I’m still betting for a “chance” to win.

Bookies are the one paying for this since they are using their own pocket money to pay for all the huge bets placed on this specific match since Sportsbook nowadays doesn’t use odds in proportion to the bet amount place on it.
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December 18, 2023, 01:38:49 PM
#78
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

I have no experience regarding match fixing on any bets I place.
Maybe because I only bet on big matches and bet on well-known football leagues which I believe are far from fixing match results which might still happen in small football leagues.

I've heard that there are countries where the outcome of a match can be controlled by certain parties.
Therefore, I don't worry about problems like this when I bet on well-known football leagues.
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December 18, 2023, 01:16:29 PM
#77
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
From my many years of experience in sport betting, I have got to know that "Fixed matches" do not exist, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong and we have anyone here on this forum who may have got one-in-one contract with such game. here is anyone here who have got in contact with getting such games. Because Telegram is one social media which I have known to been the host home for people claiming to offer fixed matches, which are always 100% scam, as games offers never do they play as predicted. Hence, you go about losing both the money used in buying the "Fixed Matched" and the money used in staking the game. So on that note, I rather advise people to go about staking their normal prediction, than hoping for fixed matches.

there used to be users who claimed they knew some matches that were fixed. Some of those matches seem to have been predicted correctly but i think this is because the user can analyze the matches. it's very common for sports fans to learn ahead of the outcome of the match since they know very well the teams who are playing. if you are a bettor you can also speculate winners and some of these sports fan thinks some matches are set up to win.

let's say Inoue vs Tapales, we know very well Tapales is no match to Inoue but they are still going to fight this month. some fans will think this is a fixed match and the only prediction to bet on is which round will Tapales drop.
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December 18, 2023, 01:04:50 PM
#76
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
From my many years of experience in sport betting, I have got to know that "Fixed matches" do not exist, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong and we have anyone here on this forum who may have got one-in-one contract with such game. here is anyone here who have got in contact with getting such games. Because Telegram is one social media which I have known to been the host home for people claiming to offer fixed matches, which are always 100% scam, as games offers never do they play as predicted. Hence, you go about losing both the money used in buying the "Fixed Matched" and the money used in staking the game. So on that note, I rather advise people to go about staking their normal prediction, than hoping for fixed matches.
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December 18, 2023, 11:46:58 AM
#75
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I do not think this is regular in football anymore, but if it is, it is not obvious as it would be politically played nicely. It is an ugly event that was popular before, but it can't for any reason be a means for fair play. This is not legal and prosecutors do frown bitterly at it if caught. Let me say that there could be a lot of reasons for such to happen but those reasons can only be for rivalry and some other unfair games as good games should be allowed to pass though, especially if the teams involved are so deserving of it. Everything is not about gambling benefits and the money peculiarity. I love it mostly when it's even the underdog-related games, which could also encourage people to even watch it more and not otherwise which suggests that better clubs playing the final, for example, will amount to making more money.

Well, in this dispensation, it can't be plainly happening in the professional leagues in developed countries, those leagues are too exposed for such. Or should I say that are too big for such to tarnish their images. But for the poor countries' leagues, it is so possible since they are still very greedy for the money and are desperate to make it shamelessly as well. Am concerned about this? Not at all, and the reason is that I don't watch the matches of the poor countries, and even if the top-world countries' leagues are doing it, I can still be so concerned because it would be so little. Inasmuch as I go for the quality matches and bet accordingly, I am good to go.
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December 18, 2023, 11:43:55 AM
#74
When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

This is why you should stay away from such leagues and only game on big leagues as mentioned by @Oshosondy, to avoid match fixing. Fairness in the game brings out the best in the players and this will make gamblers be able to predict the match based on their own understanding and skills.

What you should understand is that match fixing if it really exists is done by gamblers too, they want to win very huge sums from the bookies and they go extra-mile to ensure they get what they want. you talk about fairness, have you not seen where a referee robbed a team of their supposed victory?, If not, I will refer you back to Chelsea vs Barcelona champions league finals 2011 or so. when a referee defied many football rules and ensured that Chelsea didn't get past that stage. There's a lot of unfairness in the leagues both small and big leagues, but I think there's more corruption in smaller leagues, especially those with limited coverage.
So my point is that Gamblers are everywhere. The guy that fixes the match is a top-level gamblers who steers the game to his favour, and you just staking on those games is a low-level gambler who waits on the outcomes of the games to make your money.
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December 18, 2023, 11:35:25 AM
#73
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Unfortunatelly, match fixing is a risk you have to take, despite the league or championship you are betting on. There isn't any way to know with 100% certain if a match is not going to be fixed, because there are many interests involved on the process, especially right now with so many sports betting houses operating in every corners of the world and even sponsoring many clubs and championships.

Sometimes match fixings are really obvious, what I believe to be the case of the minor leagues, but the schemes can also be extremely discreet and imperceptible among professional soccer leagues, although in most situations all we have are speculations which don't go ahead or are immediately covered up. After all, the more money the sports betting industry moves, more likely it's to be that we see the occurrence of match fixings increasing, or the increasement on the occurrence of unbelievable matches' results.
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December 18, 2023, 11:28:21 AM
#72
On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
I have tried not to believe that match fixing actually exist but the more I try the more it becomes impossible to just ignore all the numerous evidence that abound in respect to this. There have been reports of people being banned or punish for their involvement in match fixing and the list is long. This statement of your is also showing that you believe match fixing actually exist. Have you actually had any form of information as to who fixes these matches and how they are able to achieve that and make it appear natural?


What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I don't know what my experience is and how to know a match that have been fixed. I don't think I have been born when some of the match fixing allegations that are in public domain happened. If match fixing actually do happen now, getting such classified information will not be easy to come by considering the damage it will do to the bookies and the reputation of the governing bodies.


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December 18, 2023, 11:15:03 AM
#71
Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

Happens smaller countries and in larger ones it's an issue in lower leagues. I know a couple stories because my friend used to play pro in third league and he personally knew guys that were involved in that and got caught. He also knew guys that were stealing, and taking drugs. When you do it once you want to do it again and eventually you're going to get caught and face the consequences. The players that were caught and kicked out of the team would get more money for playing if they were not sacked than they did by fixing matches.
It's really only worth it in higher leagues because it pays so much that even if you get caught you'll have enough money for lawyers, but at that level you're making so much without fixing that you don't need to cheat. You're set for life anyway.
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December 18, 2023, 11:03:45 AM
#70
I am not sure if I understand this correctly but what I have observe if I am not wrong about this one is that this is very common with boxing matches. Promotions wants more audience and money so they fix matches to further raise some profits and if you are placing bets on a specific team or league this means a 50/50 win or loss but most of the time the winning team or the defending champion will suffer a controversial loss just to have a stupid rematch.
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December 18, 2023, 10:46:26 AM
#69
because of this match fixing, i rarely bet on my city team because they play in a small league where match fixing like this often happens. i'm not saying that all the results of matches in the that small leagues are manipulated, but i don't want to risk myself betting on a league that is not transparent and prone to manipulation. as long as they don't fix this and can't convince the fans that they are a clean and honest tournament, i'm reluctant to bet on it.
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December 18, 2023, 10:44:58 AM
#68
Match fixing is disturbing, but its incidence varies. I've found that sport governing organizations' integrity matters more than country size. Due to fewer earnings and less oversight, smaller leagues are vulnerable, but so are larger ones. The bigger stakes in big leagues can attract more sophisticated match-fixing.

I've learnt to focus on controllables as a bettor. Dont fight match fixing alone, but be aware and gamble properly. Observing unusually changing odds or last-minute team roster changes can indicate fixing. This is a complicated subject. Match fixing ruins the skill-luck balance of betting. I dont let match fixing worry me when betting, but I support tighter sports regulations.
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December 18, 2023, 09:58:48 AM
#67

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.

I have heard speculations of match fixing though but how true it is still left to be proven. This is why it is good to bet with big leagues and serious ones where such occurrence to happen will be limited. However, for local leagues or community cups, such is possible to happen because the officiating is not standard and therefore there could be some sort of corruption and fixing that will go on for the highest bidder, such could be the case for smaller leagues that is not under the watch of global media.

There's a proven cases regarding on this match fixing and there's some people behind on this crazy activities got penalized on the league where they belong. And for sure this is not only happening on current era but rather there's more cases like this happening before since there's less technology that can detect it and people can't report easily to authorities handling the league if they suspected such thing to happen.

Maybe at current digital era where camera is everywhere this activity is not  or less to happen on bigger leagues since they can easily get busted by doing such illegal actions. But on minor leagues for sure we can still see this to happen since those leagues didn't get to much attention coming from media or large number of fans around the country.

I'm sure there is. Those big guys in the sports want to secure a win and they will do it blatantly if they have to but most of the stuff done is behind close doors and only the referee and the fighters are going to be participating.

If they make it obvious, there will be a lot of complain in the sports industry and there will be a lot of media coverage of such match and credibility off the athletes will be questioned.
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December 18, 2023, 09:25:47 AM
#66

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.

I have heard speculations of match fixing though but how true it is still left to be proven. This is why it is good to bet with big leagues and serious ones where such occurrence to happen will be limited. However, for local leagues or community cups, such is possible to happen because the officiating is not standard and therefore there could be some sort of corruption and fixing that will go on for the highest bidder, such could be the case for smaller leagues that is not under the watch of global media.

There's a proven cases regarding on this match fixing and there's some people behind on this crazy activities got penalized on the league where they belong. And for sure this is not only happening on current era but rather there's more cases like this happening before since there's less technology that can detect it and people can't report easily to authorities handling the league if they suspected such thing to happen.

Maybe at current digital era where camera is everywhere this activity is not  or less to happen on bigger leagues since they can easily get busted by doing such illegal actions. But on minor leagues for sure we can still see this to happen since those leagues didn't get to much attention coming from media or large number of fans around the country.
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December 18, 2023, 09:05:52 AM
#65
Does match fixing concern you often?
Of course there is concern, especially in leagues, except for the World Cup, as far as I know, the league that gambles the most and most mafia places bets, They often place bets in large amounts, it is not likely to be a worrying action for small-prone gamblers.

For this reason, overcoming worry, of course you have to think about it, if I want to place a bet, especially on football in the league, I rarely place a 1x2 bet; I was happy and I managed to do a lot by placing a bet. Both teams scored; I'm very worried about putting the Correct Score, because it often misses, but for both teams I have good results I do, that's what I do gambling to overcome worry in gambling.
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December 18, 2023, 08:52:09 AM
#64
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Today, those of us who are sports bettors consider match fixing to be a common phenomenon. We sometimes bet on the assumption that there will be a fix during the team selection. Because it is very common in this stage. Earlier if a game was suspected there would be an investigation but now the board or big bosses are involved in fixing some feel that such events are conducted for fixing. Although there is no actual proof of this, everyone can feel it but no one can say anything.
With the passage of time, the amount of such match fixing has increased which has alienated the common people from the humanity of watching the game. A fixed match really has no appeal. But I think it is no longer possible to get out of such a situation rather it will increase in scope in future. Those who are gamblers place bets depending on fixed match.
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