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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 16, 2023, 02:51:24 PM

The reason I do not gamble with small leagues is because of match fixing, although I do not know if truly it is existing frequently there. I go for top leagues like the EPL, Seria A, Bundesliga, French Lique 1 and those like that.

Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

Not a problem there. Just do not go for small leagues.

Do not try to think you can see some fixed matches, they are very hard to know and some people are using it to scam people.

Top leagues in big countries like the English Premiere League and the Spanish LaLiga aren't entirely free of match fixing, but probably have the local authorities investing more to counter any attempt to fix matches. But for example even in this year authorities in Spain found evidence of match fixing for matches in 2021 Copa and detained a few individuals involved with top teams. So it's not like it doesn't happen there either, it's just more rare probably end eventually there's justice. But as a person who simply places bets good luck finding justice after two years of investigations end Grin

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Even as imaginary as it sounds, its still connected to reality. People have often stated concerns on how matches are either bought/sold or fixed, although there has not been an evidence as to physically seeing a match that is being sold, apart from suspicions and leads and corresponding actions of correction taken, I believe it happens often and many times than not.

If football is business then whatever pays can be applied, remember people need to be paid in order for the game to continue and the business running. If keeping the business means fixtures, I think it will be sustained even behind closed doors as the regulatory body frowns at it.

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The sports I bet I don't think about it too often. I stay away from college betting because it would be too easy (and cheap) for someone to pay off one of the players since they really don't make a salary. In the top US pro sports I'm not sure if it's worth it for them to even try. I guess the worst one I've seen in awhile is in the NBA with the ref who was on the books of the mob Tim Donaghy I think it was. Either way I don't think it's prevalent enough to worry about.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Before the start of every league match, whether big or small, there's no way an ordinary bettor could tell you that a particular match is fixed, unless the match is over, that's when you will be hearing such rumors that a match is fixed, and nobody knows about it until the end of the match.

I think match-fixing is highly confidential to those who set it, and any of them who link it to the general public will be penalized with files. I remember the case of the newly signed Newcastle player who was filed, not to play for Newcastle for 2 years all because he bet on his team to lose against their opponent.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Since the first time I read about match fixing, I have looked for fixed games but nothing. I am really curious to get at least one game and see how it ends as like really predicted by someone.

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I think it just happens on small leagues and I have never seen a small league bet on reputable sports bookies. Or, there may be sports that I don't know which offer those types of bets. If this happens in popular leagues then I doubt people will not see it. With so many cameras nowadays and many critics of sports, there will always be someone who will put it on social media to scare away fans and gamblers and I don't think any big league would like that to happen.
In small leagues, they might not care especially those with less promotions because it won't hurt them. But I seriously doubt that popular leagues would jeopardize their business just to make a fixed match and profit from it. It's better to make a long-term profit than a one-time millionaire and lose all your fans because of one craziness and greed.
I can see a higher chance of match-fixing in electronic games though, it can happen without our knowledge and even those who own the business.

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Quote from: |MINER| on December 16, 2023, 04:11:53 PM

Match Fixing can never be a good thing to any sports. And those and all players who involve themselves in this match fixing are betraying not only their team but the entire team or country. They might make some money doing this but the moral of the story is that they ruin the fun of the game. I think those who do match fixing should be punished more severely. If Allready there are many instances of match-fixing being thrown out of the game for life.

True that, match fixing lowers the integrity of the league. Although it does not concern me whether the match is fixed or not since we never knew it anyway. I just put my wager to the team that what I feel is more likely to win besides it is what gambling for.

Quote from: Docnaster on December 16, 2023, 04:24:34 PM

Football is very interesting and the most talked about kind of sports because of the fun that comes with surprising results that was very unpredictable before the kick off of football games but when match fixing is involved I football, it becomes a very boring sports.

Match fixing is not only exclusive in football matches, even boxer and other sports are often observed to be exploited by these match fixing activities.

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The most reputable professional leagues in the world have guards who monitor live games to prevent these match-fixing situations.

But, any game that allows betting has the "risk" of being rigged, but it is difficult to cover it nowadays. There is a very well documented case about an NBA referee, these referees are very well paid for his work, in this case earning more than $600,000 a year as a referee, plus all his prestige, etc. He was involved in a gambling case rigged.

It's on Netflix, there's also the case of Juventus and the reality is that the list is long of rigged games, and there are extremes, such as the case in which a player, I don't remember which league, after two minutes, a player throw the ball into the corner flagrant manner, it was investigated and a bet for such a situation.

But fortunately they are in a way a small percentage of the entire amount of games and bets that are made, in any case the answer is that they do exist, oh, yes.

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Quote from: Frankolala on December 16, 2023, 03:09:31 PM

When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

This is why you should stay away from such leagues and only game on big leagues as mentioned by @Oshosondy, to avoid match fixing. Fairness in the game brings out the best in the players and this will make gamblers be able to predict the match based on their own understanding and skills.

I've read about numerous cases of match fixing and most of them I think are reported from small countries of the world. Fixing a match is mostly done by heavy gamblers and it was common in the olden days of football because the current technological advancements will expose moments that'll make football governing body FIFA to know teams that are into match fixing. When it was common in football, match fixing was one of the main factors that was killing the excitement in football but thanks to heavy punishments from FIFA against any club or national team that engages in match fixing, it's now a rare to find it in modern day football especially in the European leagues.

Football is very interesting and the most talked about kind of sports because of the fun that comes with surprising results that was very unpredictable before the kick off of football games but when match fixing is involved I football, it becomes a very boring sports.

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Quote from: electronicash on December 16, 2023, 04:06:17 PM

its likely common in boxing since this sport is governed by powerful organizations. they provide a very little window for someone to see whether a match is fixed. but certainly, some people can see the details of it, and gives them a hunch of what could happen especially to hyped fights.

when fury vs ngannou was talked about on the big network, they were talking about fury deciding how big the size of the ring was, and it was interpreted that the fight would end in a decision. because they have both rooms to run around.

i saw this joe rogan podcast where they discussed some rigged fights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZN8MIY6lg

As far as I know in boxing, yeah, but probably today, it's less unlike in the 40's-60's wherein there were reports that Mafia is taking over boxing world and fixing matches. And then there is the point shaving in collegiate basketball if I'm not mistaken. And obviously in small league in football in some countries. So it's really prevalent to the point that we can call that it's becoming a norm.

As for our concern, yes, everyone should be, we as sports fanatics wanted to see a all even field, or at least even if the team that you are supporting is the underdog, they will give everything to win, vice versa with the favorite. But if you see that teams are not performing well and just going to the motions of playing and in the case of boxing, taking a dive to end the fight, then we are going to be annoyed by it.

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Match Fixing can never be a good thing to any sports. And those and all players who involve themselves in this match fixing are betraying not only their team but the entire team or country. They might make some money doing this but the moral of the story is that they ruin the fun of the game. I think those who do match fixing should be punished more severely. If Allready there are many instances of match-fixing being thrown out of the game for life.

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its likely common in boxing since this sport is governed by powerful organizations. they provide a very little window for someone to see whether a match is fixed. but certainly, some people can see the details of it, and gives them a hunch of what could happen especially to hyped fights.

when fury vs ngannou was talked about on the big network, they were talking about fury deciding how big the size of the ring was, and it was interpreted that the fight would end in a decision. because they have both rooms to run around.

i saw this joe rogan podcast where they discussed some rigged fights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZN8MIY6lg

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There's Indeed something we call match fixing in all sports leagues, especially the small leagues and if we talk about local football leagues on my country, I would certainly and sure that even first professional league has many matches where teams manipulate the final score in a disgusting way and that's for money of course.
In gambling and sport betting, If you are worried that one day you set a huge sum betting and then the match end up being fixed and you lose that bet. I suggest betting only in known leagues, LaLiga, UCL, premier league.....

When we talk about fixed matches some decades ago, even most knows team they are evolved in that. Corruption is everywhere, you can't really avoid that or even know if that game is really fixed even when you win the bet. You best choice is to bet with average sums of money only.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

It's hard to tell, I think we all learned that fixed games are everywhere... but who would really tell if some game is fixed or not? Of course, losers will complain, but winners will stand up for otherwise... as always!

I believe there are fixed games in every sport, but it's really hard to find which games are fixed... fixing games is done on some really high levels, ordinary people like us don't have access to that.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

Yes, it can also be in big league as well, maybe the chances are slim to the teams to go and fixed their matches, but still the possibility is there.

Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

It's not going to be healthy for gambler if they are the victims of match fixing. Just imagine you gamble and you think that base on your analysis, your team is going to win. And then you bet on them, but suddenly everything doesn't look right as everyone colluded to fixed the match. Hence you lose your bet and others too and only those people behind benefited. And then they can do the same process over and over again. For others as sports fan, maybe it doesn't bother them, but as a gambler definitely, you will find something is at odd with those kind of fix matches.

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It does not concern me and it has not been something which have concerned anyone in my family who have partaken in sportbetting for years. I mostly agree with the advices those in this thread have given and only stick to big leagues in order to avoid to get scammed by match fixers within smaller leagues.

Though, I must admit that the fact one cannot follow and bet in local sport events as one would like in case of being interested in them is quite discouraging... For example, here in my country we sadly suffer from an increasing degree of corruption and bad behavior by authorities, so I do not have any doubt there is match fixing going on as we speak with small leagues in Football and baseball. Which is bad news for fans of our national sports. The worst part about it is there is a lot of gullible people and bettors who do not even image there could be military and politicians getting involved with such scheme in this nation, in the end they will mostly get their money stripped from them in a very unfair way.
Another reason I just like to bet when comes to World Cup or big events like the American Cup.

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Quote from: Frankolala on December 16, 2023, 03:09:31 PM

When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

Match fixing is an offense all over the world in any country, both in small or big countries. Anyone that is found involved are sanctioned. But despite the consequences and punishment, some club managers in small leagues still try ways to fix matches. One of the managers that has been the national team coach before in my country was found with match fixing and he was sanctioned. I do not know if because his mother was kidnapped was the reason because the adductors demanded for huge amount of money.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

I would say that I also witnessed match fixing in a horse race, it's obvious that the jockey, even though his horse is what we call outstanding favorite, will suddenly lose the race for unknown circumstance but you can see that he really didn't push the horse to it's limit and allow other horses to get past him.

So yeah, I would say that it's common occurrence here, but what the stewart will do is just suspend the jockey for that x races.

But after that he will be back again with that kind of match fixing allowing only a few bettors to win and let the horse bettors down with huge amount of money.

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When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

This is why you should stay away from such leagues and only game on big leagues as mentioned by @Oshosondy, to avoid match fixing. Fairness in the game brings out the best in the players and this will make gamblers be able to predict the match based on their own understanding and skills.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 02:32:45 PM

I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

The gambler chose the best website to make the winning with no doubt.The stake will be the better website for the gambling,because it was the best gambling website in the world.The match fixing was affect the big betting gamblers,because the website will look to fix the match against the biggest betting money.Even in the World Cup Cricket,Some unofficial news was spread around us of the match was involved of 5million dollars worth of gambling in the Final match.Because as we know the India was in the strongest position with 10/10,but the final results purely seems like match fixing.The gambling owner only target against the maximum opinion of the game.

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