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August 12, 2016, 01:32:24 AM
#50
The place where skill work is Texas Holdem Poker. If you are patient enough and don't rush when playing there but keep your self cool and think very quietly you can make a lot of money by playing against other players. Thats the only place where skill can make you an advantage. At any other game like dice, slot, roulette which are games of chances you are relying on pure luck to win. Even in sports betting you are relying on luck more than skill as they say the ball is circle and anything can happen even when hot favorites are playing against much weaker teams.
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August 12, 2016, 01:24:31 AM
#49
The only game I have seen that is based on some kind of skill is poker, that's it. There's some luck involved though(what cards you are getting, and what cards the other players have).

Have you ever tried sports betting because in sports also betting on need more skills and some luck to win the bets? All those card games even we need some skills but mostly depends on luck and without luck, I don't think we can win on a regular basis. In sports betting also due to match fixes, difficult to guess results very accurately.
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August 12, 2016, 12:33:19 AM
#48
Well there are a few games where skill actually is needed to win, take poker for example. But in general, with gambling, mostly what you really need is luck as gambling is playing factors ran by chance. In gambling games like dice, lottery and slots, you only have to be lucky to win
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August 11, 2016, 11:55:01 PM
#47
in gambling, you always need luck because no matter what game you play it is still a game with a "chance" of winning no matter your skills.
also i think you can call any strategy that you use and it is good and working as your skills, no matter what game you are playing. although the real meaning of skills is more understandable in games like poker and sports betting but still using a good strategy in dice that can help you win is also a skill.
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August 11, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
#46
I think blackjack is not base on strategy its more base on luck.. 
Or almost all are need luck not only strategy if you have a strategy it won't work without luck.. it needs also luck..
Its not all base in strategy.. you will never win even you have a strong strategy without luck..

It dependa on what game that you played, if you said blackjack you dont really need much skill though because it is actually based on your luck and on how good your calculation is. Luck is just some part on blackjack. But if you play poker game ehat you really need is skill and luck is really tiny needs on here, although if you dony have any luck you still can use your skill to win some money there
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August 11, 2016, 10:06:05 PM
#45
i think in gambling, both skill and luck is related. if someone have skill but no luck, he can not win. but if someone without skill but have big luck, then he can win. maybe skill will work with sportbetting, because in sportbetting, we should know about each team that we want to make bet, and then we can make a list what point that maybe can make that team win or loss, after that we can make final decision.
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August 11, 2016, 09:53:28 PM
#44
The only game I have seen that is based on some kind of skill is poker, that's it. There's some luck involved though(what cards you are getting, and what cards the other players have).
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August 11, 2016, 09:36:30 PM
#43
I think blackjack is not base on strategy its more base on luck.. 
Or almost all are need luck not only strategy if you have a strategy it won't work without luck.. it needs also luck..
Its not all base in strategy.. you will never win even you have a strong strategy without luck..

blackjack is a -EV game , but skills can definitely reduce the house edge
for example some newbies may hit when they have 16 and the dealer showing a deuce , and this is kinda terrible move
you can't win always , but you can reduce the house edge when you have some understanding for the game
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August 11, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
#42
Actually in every task it needs strategy and skills so as in gambling,it needs skills and strategy.Once you gamble right from the start you have your plans on how you can win and earned,not that just by putting up to something without even thinking.Don't just say it was just for fun ,once your into gambling to earned and win matters,so it takes skills.

I don't think gambling is skill-based. Just a few categories, like sports betting. Except them, it's all about luck.

I don't consider BlackJack being a skill-based game either, not even partially. There are still random cards, you never know what you're going to get.
Actually in Blackjack there is a strategy called 'counting cards' which can bring you real advantage over the casino.
In real world casinos if staff realize that you are counting cards they will most likely ask you to leave. So yes, they are afraid of it.

More info about it here: https://www.blackjackapprenticeship.com/resources/how-to-count-cards/

I do agree some games are based skill like sports betting and blackjack but I don't think we can always win only with our skills because we also need some luck to support our skills or guess to come true. So at the end Luck is very important in gambling than skills.
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August 11, 2016, 07:57:34 PM
#41
Actually in every task it needs strategy and skills so as in gambling,it needs skills and strategy.Once you gamble right from the start you have your plans on how you can win and earned,not that just by putting up to something without even thinking.Don't just say it was just for fun ,once your into gambling to earned and win matters,so it takes skills.

I don't think gambling is skill-based. Just a few categories, like sports betting. Except them, it's all about luck.

I don't consider BlackJack being a skill-based game either, not even partially. There are still random cards, you never know what you're going to get.
Actually in Blackjack there is a strategy called 'counting cards' which can bring you real advantage over the casino.
In real world casinos if staff realize that you are counting cards they will most likely ask you to leave. So yes, they are afraid of it.

More info about it here: https://www.blackjackapprenticeship.com/resources/how-to-count-cards/
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August 11, 2016, 06:42:39 PM
#40
I think blackjack is not base on strategy its more base on luck.. 
Or almost all are need luck not only strategy if you have a strategy it won't work without luck.. it needs also luck..
Its not all base in strategy.. you will never win even you have a strong strategy without luck..
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August 11, 2016, 05:59:56 PM
#39
Actually in every task it needs strategy and skills so as in gambling,it needs skills and strategy.Once you gamble right from the start you have your plans on how you can win and earned,not that just by putting up to something without even thinking.Don't just say it was just for fun ,once your into gambling to earned and win matters,so it takes skills.

I don't think gambling is skill-based. Just a few categories, like sports betting. Except them, it's all about luck.

I don't consider BlackJack being a skill-based game either, not even partially. There are still random cards, you never know what you're going to get.
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August 11, 2016, 05:15:43 PM
#38
Actually in every task it needs strategy and skills so as in gambling,it needs skills and strategy.Once you gamble right from the start you have your plans on how you can win and earned,not that just by putting up to something without even thinking.Don't just say it was just for fun ,once your into gambling to earned and win matters,so it takes skills.
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January 18, 2016, 11:34:21 AM
#37
Poker takes massive amount of skill. You can always keep improving even after 10 years+ of learning it.

Sport betting takes a ton of skill too, to be a consistant winner, its a different kind of a skill set compared to poker though.

For the Poker i think this one is the best answer



Yes

Poker is played against other humans, not the house.  Humans are exploitable.  Imagine playing against a human whose aggression is completely out of control.  I play against them every day.  Imagine playing against a human who is afraid to take any risk.  There are plenty of them.  And they identify themselves.  The house-created games are almost always not exploitable (unless the people who created them are incompetent).  Bitcoin internet poker has a unique combination of advantages that none of the others (including brick and mortar poker) have. The very low rake (or even zero rake at the lowest tables on SwCPoker) allows players to gain the needed skill at very low expense.  It is not unusual to play over 100 hands per hour.  In contrast, trying to learn how to play poker in a brick and mortar poker room can be expensive and time-consuming.  It is Bitcoins that allow internet poker to be provided at such low expense.  
legendary
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January 17, 2016, 11:14:55 AM
#36
As others have said, skill plays a major role in poker. Other factors play a part also. And while skill is a big factor, one doesn't necessarily need to be the most skilled poker player to be profitable, just more skilled than at  least one other player at your table. Sure that player can get lucky on occasion and win a few hands, but in the long run, higher poker skills give you an advantage over less skilled players.
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January 17, 2016, 10:17:44 AM
#35
heads and tails game also purely on chances
at this game the skill doesn’t work i guess
depends on luck skill not required Smiley

Yes heads and tails game is a good option, I have seen some people martingale on real cricket match tosses and try to increase bet slowly when loose. While I think its a good idea but the chance are still same loosing and winning.
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January 17, 2016, 09:49:42 AM
#34
Yes skill works because there are professional gamblers who get their earnings for living just from gambling on their skills.As you mentioned at op in some games you really need luck to win.
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January 17, 2016, 09:47:26 AM
#33
This is not just skill which works but you also need little trick to win.Gambling actually is a combination of skill and trick to dodge your component when you are playing poker especially.
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January 17, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
#32
heads and tails game also purely on chances
at this game the skill doesn’t work i guess
depends on luck skill not required Smiley
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January 17, 2016, 07:47:51 AM
#31
Well, do not know why but I always feel that betting on roulette at a particular colour maybe say " red " is better than betting on 50% chance at any site , simply because I have never heard anyone loosing 20 roulette bets consecutively, while I have seen in dice.


try it with very small units and see yourself Smiley or google for the biggest streak on roulette black or red

yah cause roulette is a very slow play. so it will tends to be quite hard to play too many times to experience 20 consecutively loss but still it is very possible in the long run.

That is a valid point. Probability speaking, it is more likely to get a long losing streak in 2x bet in dice (50.5% chance to lose a bet) than in roulette (51.35% chance to lose a bet). But with autobetting, you could be doing several bets every second in dice, while in roulette you would be doing 10 bets or so a minute only.
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