Does the planet really need saving? - page 2.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 01, 2022, 11:07:18 AM

Outside of a few people here and there, most of us live only 100 years, if that. Since the saving of our health doesn't seem to increase the saving of our life very much, maybe we are totally going about it in the wrong way.

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Planet - our society - and our home ==everything thing needs saving
And its a good practice - I like those people who dont waste water. I have seen people who have mangers putting the sink waste water to the toilet so they do not flush clean water.

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Quote from: Theones on September 29, 2022, 06:58:07 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 27, 2022, 08:50:08 AM

We can't save the planet. Why not? Because we can't even save ourselves.

The planet has millions of cubic miles. But we are so tiny that you could easily fit all the volume of all people into 2 cubic miles. We are nothing.

However, we exist. That means that the One Who made the planet, also made us. We need to look to Him to find salvation for ourselves. He will take care of the planet.

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The only good thing about making the planet green is that we are saving the world and saving our health too
I am very impressed from the people were making small gardening groups and making small investment

Outside of a few people here and there, most of us live only 100 years, if that. Since the saving of our health doesn't seem to increase the saving of our life very much, maybe we are totally going about it in the wrong way.

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World Economic Forum is making a lot of plans to "build back better" like you said. one of the aspect is that they want to make a net-zero world that no more carbon emissions out more than the planet can afford. in reality, if you look at the other side of this, they are wanting to make people own nothing too. some random banks in Sweden is already pushing out credit cards based on your carbon footprints, which was a literal conspiracy about ten years ago.

Quote from: Gyfts on August 19, 2022, 09:29:28 AM

The modern green initiatives don't do much to actually stop climate change so the question to ask is whether people should feel comfortable paying 2x-3x their energy cost in order to reduce carbon emissions by using renewable/cleaner energy sources. And by doing so, making only a fractional impact on global average temperature increases over the next 100 years. Most people wouldn't even pay 1.1x their current energy costs even if it made a more sizeable impact than what the projections show. Russia, India, China, don't have any intentions on reducing their emissions any time soon.

The green energy hippies would rather have you freeze to death in the winter than emit carbon pollution.

this is real. an appropriate amount of carbon emissions rather keeps the soil on the good standing. greenhouse gases cause global warming, but doesn't mean not even an entity would need it. even the forest needs some carbon emissions to keep its life going. to make it a net-zero, we are supposed to make use of those pollutions and not reducing it.

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I think we as a species on this planet need saving. We have
always relied on earth’s resources to thrive. The planet is
going through changes right now with climate change,
emissions and rising sea levels. A considerable aftermath
and consequence with man’s industrialization and abuse to
nature, which unfortunately over time will lead to our demise
if no conclusive amount of action and process would make a
great impact on the problem. I think it’s speeding up more in
the last 10 years, that movie Waterworld is like a foreshadowing
glimpse to what we are gonna be dealing with in the next 30
to 50 years. The planet is saving itself, with all these crazy
calamities occurring everywhere, the scary changes thats
happening and will continue to happen is a process in itself.

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Quote from: Theones on September 29, 2022, 06:58:07 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 27, 2022, 08:50:08 AM

We can't save the planet. Why not? Because we can't even save ourselves.

The planet has millions of cubic miles. But we are so tiny that you could easily fit all the volume of all people into 2 cubic miles. We are nothing.

However, we exist. That means that the One Who made the planet, also made us. We need to look to Him to find salvation for ourselves. He will take care of the planet.

Cool

The only good thing about making the planet green is that we are saving the world and saving our health too
I am very impressed from the people were making small gardening groups and making small investment

People don't want to make the planet green. How do we know? Because they want to get rid of the CO2, the plant food that makes the planet green.

People listen to the false advertising that says that CO2 is bad. But the best gardening is done in greenhouses that have added CO2 in the atmosphere.

People are mixed up regarding how to save the planet. First, they can't do it; the planet saves itself. Second, they don't have any reason to do it; the planet saves itself. Third, they need to figure out how to save themselves before they can even really think about saving the planet.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 27, 2022, 08:50:08 AM

We can't save the planet. Why not? Because we can't even save ourselves.

The planet has millions of cubic miles. But we are so tiny that you could easily fit all the volume of all people into 2 cubic miles. We are nothing.

However, we exist. That means that the One Who made the planet, also made us. We need to look to Him to find salvation for ourselves. He will take care of the planet.

Cool

The only good thing about making the planet green is that we are saving the world and saving our health too
I am very impressed from the people were making small gardening groups and making small investment

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Quote from: Desmong on September 26, 2022, 04:29:51 PM

Quote from: Theones on September 26, 2022, 04:16:38 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 26, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

because we, humans, will not be able to live if the earth changes above 80C temperature, we cannot live under water, we will not be able to live without food sources in the form of plants or animals when they also die due to ecosystem damage here and there. We are the ones who have an interest in survival, not the earth. human presence means nothing to this planet. long before humans existed, the earth was fine.

COVID and the wars and the natural catastrophes has changed the overall face of the world
And the world needs healing and there is a lot we need to do to save the planet.

if we don't save the planet, our are we going to survive?
The planet Earth needs to be clean and if we don't try our best to ensure that we put certain things in other then we might end up making the worse decision.
We need to join hands together and make sure that we don't make a big mistakes that would make our generation to regret our actions.

We can't save the planet. Why not? Because we can't even save ourselves.

The planet has millions of cubic miles. But we are so tiny that you could easily fit all the volume of all people into 2 cubic miles. We are nothing.

However, we exist. That means that the One Who made the planet, also made us. We need to look to Him to find salvation for ourselves. He will take care of the planet.

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Quote from: Theones on September 26, 2022, 04:16:38 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 26, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

because we, humans, will not be able to live if the earth changes above 80C temperature, we cannot live under water, we will not be able to live without food sources in the form of plants or animals when they also die due to ecosystem damage here and there. We are the ones who have an interest in survival, not the earth. human presence means nothing to this planet. long before humans existed, the earth was fine.

COVID and the wars and the natural catastrophes has changed the overall face of the world
And the world needs healing and there is a lot we need to do to save the planet.

if we don't save the planet, our are we going to survive?
The planet Earth needs to be clean and if we don't try our best to ensure that we put certain things in other then we might end up making the worse decision.
We need to join hands together and make sure that we don't make a big mistakes that would make our generation to regret our actions.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 26, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

because we, humans, will not be able to live if the earth changes above 80C temperature, we cannot live under water, we will not be able to live without food sources in the form of plants or animals when they also die due to ecosystem damage here and there. We are the ones who have an interest in survival, not the earth. human presence means nothing to this planet. long before humans existed, the earth was fine.

COVID and the wars and the natural catastrophes has changed the overall face of the world
And the world needs healing and there is a lot we need to do to save the planet.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on August 14, 2022, 09:58:57 AM

"Save the earth", "Save the Ocean", "Save the forests", "The earth is bleeding" etc are very common phrases we come across in this century. What is funny is that humans aren't even looking at saving themselves (like "Save the humans" Cheesy

) except shelling the shit out of ourselves in the name of wars based on egos of our leaders.

From what I see, The earth doesn't give a damn on whether we try to save it or not. We found the Earth here, and we shall probably go extinct at one point and leave it behind, just like the dinosaurs are now a distant history to it. The earth will always heal no matter what.

All this "Save the earth" projects or themes won't make sense if a random asteroid came from nowhere and hit our planet, wiping out everyone. I think our priorities are misplaced. We should be looking at saving each other, avoid pointless wars and survive peacefully.

Earth doesn't need to be saved.

please understand, do not continue to make tantrums that will boomerang for human existence itself.
Realize that the earth doesn't need us, we need it. the earth will continue to exist no matter what will happen, the concept of "go green" "save the earth" is not to save the earth, but to save us "humans".
whether there are trees on earth or no trees, whether the earth is on fire, flooded, covered by ice, hit by a large meteor, or covered in drowning by sea water, the earth will still exist, rotating in peace in the solar system.

it is humans who will become extinct quickly if the earth is like I said before. hence, humans created the concept of "save the earth".
when the truth is "save humans by maintaining the state of the earth as it is today".
because we, humans, will not be able to live if the earth changes above 80C temperature, we cannot live under water, we will not be able to live without food sources in the form of plants or animals when they also die due to ecosystem damage here and there. We are the ones who have an interest in survival, not the earth. human presence means nothing to this planet. long before humans existed, the earth was fine.

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^^^ It's good that you feel this way. We all should be a bit more conservative. Maybe we should join the Republican Party. Regarding the Earth, it can take care of itself.

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Quote from: Gyfts on August 19, 2022, 09:29:28 AM

The modern green initiatives don't do much to actually stop climate change so the question to ask is whether people should feel comfortable paying 2x-3x their energy cost in order to reduce carbon emissions by using renewable/cleaner energy sources. And by doing so, making only a fractional impact on global average temperature increases over the next 100 years. Most people wouldn't even pay 1.1x their current energy costs even if it made a more sizeable impact than what the projections show. Russia, India, China, don't have any intentions on reducing their emissions any time soon.

The green energy hippies would rather have you freeze to death in the winter than emit carbon pollution.

Ofcourse the world needs healing
WE need to take care of the land and water and take care of the carbon footprints too. But people are getting very selfish and they have no time and energy to think about it.

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Quote from: Theones on September 25, 2022, 06:39:38 PM

the planet needs healing and that is the needed on the urgent bases what so ever is the case we all are going to die
Even the queen died - so we all need to realize one thing that nothing in the world is immortal and we need to make this place a better and a secure place.

The problem with this is, the leaders all around the world do not unanimously agree with it or some of them don't really do their jobs when it comes to protecting the planet from all kinds of destruction. especially air pollution and garbages that is thrown into the ocean. I'm glad that in some parts of the world, they are making some major changes and start educating people on how to protect this only planet that we have. Maybe if the governments take a strong campaign against these problems, we might even see changes in the few years to come. But money always prevails especially when those illegal factories pay them well just to throw their wastes into the ocean.

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I think we are asking this question very late. We have entered the era of anthropocene. Where the spicies are undergoing depletion and extinction and we are facing mass extinction. Just read the UN report on climate Change, you will know the rest

the planet needs healing and that is the needed on the urgent bases what so ever is the case we all are going to die
Even the queen died - so we all need to realize one thing that nothing in the world is immortal and we need to make this place a better and a secure place.

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The only reason why the earth needs saving is, when we as people make moves to save the earth, it thinks that we are harming it. So, it goes right back top the way it was before we started saving it. Undecided

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The earth does need saving as well as the humans living in it. Both needs saving from humans. We are destroying the planet as well as ourselves with our actions. Man has fought disastrous wars from time past; killing the planet with our incessant wars, polluting our land and seas. The earth naturally would heal and replenish its resources over time. But the rate at which man plunders the planet, it cannot naturally heal itself.
The ice caps in the attic are melting at a much faster rate, therefore increasing the sea levels thereby inducing floods. The planet does need saving as well as humans from a common enemy; ourselves.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on September 20, 2022, 06:49:58 AM

Quote from: JeromeTash on August 14, 2022, 09:58:57 AM

All this "Save the earth" projects or themes won't make sense if a random asteroid came from nowhere and hit our planet, wiping out everyone. I think our priorities are misplaced. We should be looking at saving each other, avoid pointless wars and survive peacefully.

You're right to an extent, we can save the world by living a peaceful life together with our brothers, neighbors and everyone at large, most problems encountered today were as a result of our individual differences that stirs up conflict amd we should count it a privilege not being struct by a natural epidemic that could cause a massive loss of lives, also we must be conscious of the environment we leave in to make it a better place for a living and the activities we do on it determine the reactions we get from the nature itself either good or bad.

In other words, what you seem to be saying is that the world isn't for itself, right? I mean, the world is a really wonderful thing... the way it all works together, people included or not. But what value is there to having a wonderfully working world?

I mean, doesn't all the value have to do with people's perception of the value of the world? Sure, some of the animals might have a tiny thought for their ability or inability to find food. But isn't it really the people who take deep though on such things?

If there weren't any people, what good is the world? Nobody else cares much about the world at all.

The most ironic thing is that people can't save the world. All they can do is talk about it. And when they talk about it, they base their talk on some things other people told them, even though the other people don't really know what they are talking about.

I wonder who is manipulating the talk, and why?

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Quote from: JeromeTash on August 14, 2022, 09:58:57 AM

All this "Save the earth" projects or themes won't make sense if a random asteroid came from nowhere and hit our planet, wiping out everyone. I think our priorities are misplaced. We should be looking at saving each other, avoid pointless wars and survive peacefully.

You're right to an extent, we can save the world by living a peaceful life together with our brothers, neighbors and everyone at large, most problems encountered today were as a result of our individual differences that stirs up conflict amd we should count it a privilege not being struct by a natural epidemic that could cause a massive loss of lives, also we must be conscious of the environment we leave in to make it a better place for a living and the activities we do on it determine the reactions we get from the nature itself either good or bad.

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Quote from: Desmong on September 19, 2022, 02:58:11 PM

We might think the earth never give a damn or people are never interested in what is happening to the Earth currently but we should be prepared that we all going to suffer the consequences when it keep coming rapidly.

Sometimes, these changes consequences are a part of the problem of unbelieve in people.
You hear about climate change, earth division and disappearing of species and the best you would hear from it is 10,000 years ago, 56AD, 365BC and shits like that. Truths that the means to verification remains a prediction still. Even the prediction of an amagedon still dates into the future that, we the current generation that are supposedly doing the damage are not going to see.
Hence of what interest or importance will it be to change things that might not affect you!
The whole thing is just confusing and creates its own problems sometimes.
But we really ought to take care of our environment. Its ours!

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Quote from: JeromeTash on August 14, 2022, 09:58:57 AM

"Save the earth", "Save the Ocean", "Save the forests", "The earth is bleeding" etc are very common phrases we come across in this century. What is funny is that humans aren't even looking at saving themselves (like "Save the humans" Cheesy

) except shelling the shit out of ourselves in the name of wars based on egos of our leaders.

From what I see, The earth doesn't give a damn on whether we try to save it or not. We found the Earth here, and we shall probably go extinct at one point and leave it behind, just like the dinosaurs are now a distant history to it. The earth will always heal no matter what.

All this "Save the earth" projects or themes won't make sense if a random asteroid came from nowhere and hit our planet, wiping out everyone. I think our priorities are misplaced. We should be looking at saving each other, avoid pointless wars and survive peacefully.

We might think the earth never give a damn or people are never interested in what is happening to the Earth currently but we should be prepared that we all going to suffer the consequences when it keep coming rapidly. We do not know what we are into now because things looks very easily and the effects have not that tell on us. When that time comes I think we are going to regret why we put ourselves in this big mess.

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