According to this guy though, the house has much more than a 1% advantage. That's the topic right now isn't it..?
Topic: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ - page 3. (Read 11680 times)
If the house has such an advantage, why don't you bet on them instead of yourself.
1% house edge isn't much of a advantage (as seen with players from www.Just-dice.com.) You can invest into Doge-dice and be the house if you want, but mind you it isn't "for sure" coins. People do win.
If the house has such an advantage, why don't you bet on them instead of yourself.
Is this site still legit?
Humans are extremely skilled at finding patterns. So much that we find them where they don't exist.
I found this very interesting, I'd recommend it for anyone who'd like to read about this.
I found this very interesting, I'd recommend it for anyone who'd like to read about this.
there's no time element in the roll generation.
^you fucking liar it says it right on your site!
Are you referring to this?
I expect so. Can you understand the difference between HOW the rolls are generated and WHEN they are displayed? The delays described above simply DELAY the roll, they don't AFFECT it. Also, they only affect tiny bets. People typically don't care about such small bets. The bets you pasted were all above the threshold for delays.
>>yes I have found that it demonstrates how stated % is not exclusive to all bet placed but rather BET SIZE ,so perhaps in in your mind it's somehow justified? How this is achieved by monitoring or automation or what combination of these i'm not entirely clear. You do have someone monitoring the site at all times ...right?... GOTCHA!!! ;-) *just flip the "lose" switch? = odds will change
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here. Do you have a friend who can help you with your posts?
If you're saying that big bets lose more often than small bets, that's just wrong. The rolled numbers are predetermined as soon as you pick your client seed, before you pick your chance or stake. No amount of monitoring or automation is able to change the predetermined sequence of rolls.
I don't have anyone monitoring the site most of the time. I leave myself logged in most of the time, but don't watch it. The server keeps logs of all bets though, so you can call that monitoring if you like.
Is the site working for u guys? It starts loading then it stops ( can't see the numbers, invested ecc )
Anyone?
Anyone?
Yes the site is working 100%
you would know~see you are a fucking liar!!You are still developing the doge-road drug site?
Sounds like a court case in your future?
;-)
LMFAO!!!
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio
How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab. All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.
Nice words though. I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio". That nearly sounded like it meant something!
i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol
Congratulations! Except there's no time element in the roll generation.
Epic
i like people arguing about probability they don't understand even a bit just after huge loss probability of seeing "out of normal" pattern of losses increase when suddenly your bet increases! = THIS IS A FACT!!! :-)
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio
How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab. All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.
Nice words though. I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio". That nearly sounded like it meant something!
i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol
Congratulations! Except there's no time element in the roll generation.
^you fucking liar it says it right on your site!
>>yes I have found that it demonstrates how stated % is not exclusive to all bet placed but rather BET SIZE ,so perhaps in in your mind it's somehow justified? How this is achieved by monitoring or automation or what combination of these i'm not entirely clear. You do have someone monitoring the site at all times ...right?... GOTCHA!!! ;-) *just flip the "lose" switch? = odds will change
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio
How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab. All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.
Nice words though. I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio". That nearly sounded like it meant something!
i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol
Congratulations! Except there's no time element in the roll generation.
Epic
i like people arguing about probability they don't understand even a bit just after huge loss it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio
How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab. All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.
Nice words though. I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio". That nearly sounded like it meant something!
i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol
Congratulations! Except there's no time element in the roll generation.
Glad to see this thread got bumped, I love doge-dice. Doog did a great service to the altcoin community when he made it - Thanks!
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...deflected annoying noise from "EEPICYOO"...
Such detail. Well done Doog.
HOW DO I GET MY MONEY BACK YOU SCAMMED ME!!!!=(
YOU DON'T I DIDN'T!!!!
Edit: out of curiosity I reformatted the bets into a format I could read:
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time betid lucky target stake profit
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17:23:52 287965370 01.3481 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:50 287965299 00.7005 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:48 287965203 09.3557 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:46 287965141 87.8834 >22.4999 22222.00000000 +6164.81279570
17:23:44 287965063 25.3691 >22.4999 22222.00000000 +6164.81279570
17:23:43 287965004 80.1868 >22.4999 22222.00000000 +6164.81279570
17:23:41 287964926 04.1260 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:39 287964861 04.6071 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:32 287964628 06.3926 >22.4999 11111.00000000 -11111.00000000
17:23:27 287964553 06.1111 >22.4999 1111.00000000 -1111.00000000
17:23:22 287964350 02.5132 >22.4999 1.00000000 -1.00000000
17:23:22 287964321 02.9696 >22.4999 1.00000000 -1.00000000
17:23:21 287964302 17.1074 >22.4999 1.00000000 -1.00000000
---- ----- ----- ------ ----- ------
17:23:52 287965370 01.3481 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:50 287965299 00.7005 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:48 287965203 09.3557 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:46 287965141 87.8834 >22.4999 22222.00000000 +6164.81279570
17:23:44 287965063 25.3691 >22.4999 22222.00000000 +6164.81279570
17:23:43 287965004 80.1868 >22.4999 22222.00000000 +6164.81279570
17:23:41 287964926 04.1260 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:39 287964861 04.6071 >22.4999 22222.00000000 -22222.00000000
17:23:32 287964628 06.3926 >22.4999 11111.00000000 -11111.00000000
17:23:27 287964553 06.1111 >22.4999 1111.00000000 -1111.00000000
17:23:22 287964350 02.5132 >22.4999 1.00000000 -1.00000000
17:23:22 287964321 02.9696 >22.4999 1.00000000 -1.00000000
17:23:21 287964302 17.1074 >22.4999 1.00000000 -1.00000000
It does look like some pretty bad luck. Would have been better to bet 'lo' on those rolls...
Edit2:
I just checked the server logs to see whether the bets you reported really happened:
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2014-03-03 01:23:04 bet #287963926: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:280447 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:05 bet #287963968: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:989377 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964016: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:441042 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964054: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:837305 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:08 bet #287964105: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:411128 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:09 bet #287964136: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:290225 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:13 bet #287964166: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:492052 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964182: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:24417 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964209: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:682994 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:15 bet #287964259: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:768741 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:20 bet #287964302: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:171074 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:21 bet #287964321: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:29696 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:22 bet #287964350: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:25132 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:26 bet #287964553: 1111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:61111 profit:-1111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:32 bet #287964628: 11111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:63926 profit:-11111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:38 bet #287964861: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:46071 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:40 bet #287964926: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:41260 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:42 bet #287965004: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:801868 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:44 bet #287965063: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:253691 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:46 bet #287965141: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:878834 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:47 bet #287965203: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:93557 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:50 bet #287965299: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:7005 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:51 bet #287965370: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:13481 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:27:12 bet #287971572: 18186.75783446 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:532879 profit:5045.35853704
2014-03-03 01:47:59 chat: SCAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2014-03-03 01:23:05 bet #287963968: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:989377 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964016: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:441042 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964054: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:837305 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:08 bet #287964105: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:411128 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:09 bet #287964136: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:290225 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:13 bet #287964166: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:492052 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964182: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:24417 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964209: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:682994 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:15 bet #287964259: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:768741 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:20 bet #287964302: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:171074 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:21 bet #287964321: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:29696 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:22 bet #287964350: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:25132 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:26 bet #287964553: 1111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:61111 profit:-1111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:32 bet #287964628: 11111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:63926 profit:-11111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:38 bet #287964861: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:46071 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:40 bet #287964926: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:41260 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:42 bet #287965004: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:801868 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:44 bet #287965063: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:253691 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:46 bet #287965141: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:878834 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:47 bet #287965203: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:93557 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:50 bet #287965299: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:7005 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:51 bet #287965370: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:13481 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:27:12 bet #287971572: 18186.75783446 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:532879 profit:5045.35853704
2014-03-03 01:47:59 chat:
It looks like you were betting 1 DOGE over and over until you hit a losing streak, and then increased your bet size. You wasted all the winning bets by only playing for 1 DOGE, then increased your stake for the losing streak. And then somehow say that's our fault, not yours.
Edit 3: I ran a query to find out how many times people have won and lost at 77.5% on doge-dice since it started.
It turns out they've won 876 times and lost 252 times.
>>> 876 * 100.0 / (252 + 876)
77.65957446808511
That's a win rate of 77.66%, a little higher than expected.
Would you like me to track down the people who have won more than expected and tell them that they owe you some dogecoins?
Edit 4: and for the record, you won 58 times and lost 28 times at 77.5% on that account.
>>> 58 * 100.0 / (28 + 58)
67.44186046511628
That's a win rate of 67.44%, quite a bit lower than expected, but that's not unusual on such a small sample size.
Hi everyone
I have written my own bot for just-dice.
I have written my own bot for just-dice.
I have a few questions:
Does it work for Doge-Dice too?
Is that a different download?
Or how do you tell it which site to play on?
Does it require Windows to work?
Do you provide build instructions for people who don't want to download random .exe files?
HOW DO I GET MY MONEY BACK YOU SCAMMED ME!!!!=(
Is the site working for u guys? It starts loading then it stops ( can't see the numbers, invested ecc )
Anyone?
Anyone?
Yes the site is working 100%
yes you owe me bitcoins figured i'd see you here scamming again! =(
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