Hi everyone,
I am Yacine the French Ambassador at Dominium. I would like to share my thoughts with you on recent actions taken by management concerning Bounty and referral program.
I would like to start by saying that we made a miscalculation by launching such a large bounty program ( a bit too enthusiastic in my opinion) this was based on reaching an amount of funding between the initial soft cap and large cap 2.5 to 92.5 million Euros. Unfortunatly since then market conditions worsened a lot and we only raised around 650K Euros. Furthermore, we realised that some users were taking advantage of the system by using mutilipe accounts. Therefore we (management) had to cap bounty campaign rewards to save the company. It is better have 10 tokens worth 1 euro than 100 tokens worth 10 cent ( for example) for all of us.
Moving on to the referral program, I clearly disagreed with my boss on this decision but he explained to me why it was taken and I start to understand it although it cost me a lot of effort to get those referrals ( I did it through a blog in an honest way) and I lost 3000 DOM tokens.
The problem was that people were creating many accounts to get 25 tokens each time without even verifying E-mail or completing KYC ( so who tells the company these people are real) and if you do it 10 times by a 100 people it starts diluting the token value a lot.
We (the management) decided to introduce the rule that you needed to complete KYC and create an Ardor wallet in order to activate your tokens.
Of course this should have been mentioned at the beginning and not two weeks beforehand I apologise on behalf of the team on this.
I wanted to add a picture as a proof that I received 25 tokens for 3 out of the 130 referrals ( that created an Ardor wallet and obtained KYC) but my rank does not allow me as this is my first post on this forum.
Once again I apologise on behalf of the team but we needed to take some drastic actions in order to save our company and not make it a scam as some of you might think ! I also understand that we lost trust of some people in our community and we will do our best to regain this trust in the long term.
Feel free to share any further thoughts,
Kind regards,
Yacine
Topic: Dominium is a scam? - page 3. (Read 1087 times)
No we announced KYC obligations 2-3 months ago. But probably muted group and didn’t follow any announcement
Your problem is that I give the facts (scans) as evidence of my rightness, and you can give me nothing except your words!
You cannot confirm what you are writing about. Therefore, you are ordinary fraudsters. Point!
No, i wont apologize from anyone. Team gave a deadline for Kyc. Your refferals didn’t pass Kyc until deadline. Thats why you lost your refferal tokens. That was a good way to eliminate fake refferals. If this actions make us scam, keep sayig scam!
Once again I urge you not to deceive! I have already published the above correspondence with your support. Carefully read it and stop misleading people! About any mandatory KYC passing for the accrual of coins was not written in the old rules. Your support is writing about the introduction of NEW REQUIREMENTS.
Read this! Especially for you post a link to the correspondence: https://imgsafe.org/image/af616749e9
Do you know when I received the letter with the announcement of the changes? November 22! It was a letter in which you warn about changes in your rules! There were no warnings for 3 months, as you are trying to fool around here.
https://imgsafe.org/image/c4cd1bceaf
These are scanned letter from your team. letter date is November 22. And you are introducing new requirements from November 26!
All my referrals came in October. That is, long before you entered the new requirements (from November 26)
What 3 months are you writing here? 4 days you gave the deadline! You're just swindling here!
Comment, I'm waiting.
There is no necessity to make a deep analysis. For me it takes 5 minutes to determine scam. So Dominium is a scam in my opinion with disgusting design.
I am totally sure that there is no working product and your research just made me more sure in that
I am totally sure that there is no working product and your research just made me more sure in that
At first, it seemed to me that this was a solid project and a professional team. But I was wrong obviously.
No, i wont apologize from anyone.
Do not want to apologize - lose your reputation and trust.
And more than that. Project team members will also lose their reputation and will write about them what they were involved in dubious projects.
You decide!
There is no necessity to make a deep analysis. For me it takes 5 minutes to determine scam. So Dominium is a scam in my opinion with disgusting design.
I am totally sure that there is no working product and your research just made me more sure in that
I am totally sure that there is no working product and your research just made me more sure in that
No, i wont apologize from anyone. Team gave a deadline for Kyc. Your refferals didn’t pass Kyc until deadline. Thats why you lost your refferal tokens. That was a good way to eliminate fake refferals. If this actions make us scam, keep sayig scam!
Once again I urge you not to deceive! I have already published the above correspondence with your support. Carefully read it and stop misleading people! About any mandatory KYC passing for the accrual of coins was not written in the old rules. Your support is writing about the introduction of NEW REQUIREMENTS.
Read this! Especially for you post a link to the correspondence: https://imgsafe.org/image/af616749e9
Do you know when I received the letter with the announcement of the changes? November 22! It was a letter in which you warn about changes in your rules! There were no warnings for 3 months, as you are trying to fool around here.
https://imgsafe.org/image/c4cd1bceaf
These are scanned letter from your team. letter date is November 22. And you are introducing new requirements from November 26!
All my referrals came in October. That is, long before you entered the new requirements (from November 26)
What 3 months are you writing here? 4 days you gave the deadline! You're just swindling here!
Comment, I'm waiting.
Your tilte says Dominum is a scam? So, you should change your tilte at first
Do you really not understand or pretend? I will not change anything until the Dominium stops using fraudulent actions in relation to its members. All your company needs to do in order to avoid a deepening conflict is to follow the simple steps I posted above.
I know that representatives of the Dominium team are reading this forum. And one person, whose name is demirtasilker57, appears here as a member of the Dominium team.
If you are really responsible people who want to honestly run their business, then do this - just apologize to those who were deprived of honestly earned coins, restore balances, say that it was a misunderstanding and the new rules were mistakenly introduced for the old participants. And the conflict will be settled. You will keep the good name and reputation of a reliable company. Everything that you are doing now, trying to find ridiculous excuses for your actions towards the project participants, causes people to misunderstand and want to avoid participating in your project. Do you need this? Make a responsible decision and claims to you will be removed.
No, i wont apologize from anyone. Team gave a deadline for Kyc. Your refferals didn’t pass Kyc until deadline. Thats why you lost your refferal tokens. That was a good way to eliminate fake refferals. If this actions make us scam, keep sayig scam! If you are really responsible people who want to honestly run their business, then do this - just apologize to those who were deprived of honestly earned coins, restore balances, say that it was a misunderstanding and the new rules were mistakenly introduced for the old participants. And the conflict will be settled. You will keep the good name and reputation of a reliable company. Everything that you are doing now, trying to find ridiculous excuses for your actions towards the project participants, causes people to misunderstand and want to avoid participating in your project. Do you need this? Make a responsible decision and claims to you will be removed.
Hi all
it seems not scam project , you could check team profiles at linkedin , they are real
may be somthing wrong happend due to dump at market , may be they chaned some rules or decreased bounty to save thier tokens when be listed at exchanges
I suggest to open discuss group at telegram and invite some guys from the team , and start negotiation with them
according my research , this project not scam
regards
it seems not scam project , you could check team profiles at linkedin , they are real
may be somthing wrong happend due to dump at market , may be they chaned some rules or decreased bounty to save thier tokens when be listed at exchanges
I suggest to open discuss group at telegram and invite some guys from the team , and start negotiation with them
according my research , this project not scam
regards
I repeat once again for those who have not read the entire thread:
The project may be genuine, but the team may be foul.
I know that representatives of the Dominium team are reading this forum. And one person, whose name is demirtasilker57, appears here as a member of the Dominium team.
If you are really responsible people who want to honestly run their business, then do this - just apologize to those who were deprived of honestly earned coins, restore balances, say that it was a misunderstanding and the new rules were mistakenly introduced for the old participants. And the conflict will be settled. You will keep the good name and reputation of a reliable company. Everything that you are doing now, trying to find ridiculous excuses for your actions towards the project participants, causes people to misunderstand and want to avoid participating in your project. Do you need this? Make a responsible decision and claims to you will be removed.
If you are really responsible people who want to honestly run their business, then do this - just apologize to those who were deprived of honestly earned coins, restore balances, say that it was a misunderstanding and the new rules were mistakenly introduced for the old participants. And the conflict will be settled. You will keep the good name and reputation of a reliable company. Everything that you are doing now, trying to find ridiculous excuses for your actions towards the project participants, causes people to misunderstand and want to avoid participating in your project. Do you need this? Make a responsible decision and claims to you will be removed.
I often hear bad reviews about this project and it seems to me that most likely this project is a scam
In fact, Dominium is a great project with the real people standing behind.
They're just trying to save their project. I even think that less token with
a higher value is much more valuable than many token with a lower value.
They're just trying to save their project. I even think that less token with
a higher value is much more valuable than many token with a lower value.
tjis cryptocurrency will be a good one i hope of its owners will do right things to it and there will be a lot of good products
It is impossible to create a good product by bad methods and at the same time having a damaged reputation. It's my opinion.
I do not think that fraud is just that they have difficulties, like most projects right now. Only the rebranding is not clear ...
No difficulties can justify dishonest business, dirty methods. Is not it?
I am trying to give answers to him. But he thinks we are scam cuz we decrased his rewards.
You didn’t reduce, but simply stole, you took away my reward using a made-up excuse.
Here is their website: https://dominium.me/
In the AIR DROP section, we see such an announcement (still preserved) https://dominium.me/ru/#airDrop
"Air Drop
FREE tokens will only be shown in your balance once you have passed Clearance Level 1
INTRODUCE a new user and earn from 5% to 10% commission when they invest!
REGISTER an account as a company and receive 25 DOM tokens.
INTRODUCE a company and both of you receive 25 DOM!
A total of 100,000,000 DOM tokens (10%) will be given away during the Air Drop and Referral Program."
I have 67 refrails for this program. Until November 30, my account was 1675 DOM, respectively.
And on 04.12.2018, the following letter arrives in my mail:
"Dear members of the Dominium Society,
We make some significant changes to our ITO structure to protect our investors and our community, as well as remove any fake user accounts.
After extensive discussions with the community and our investors, over the past few months we have decided to make the following changes:
Airdrop program
From Monday, November 26, Airdrop will only pay DOM (KAZ) 25 tokens for newly registered users who have been confirmed by KYC "Clearance Level 1" and created / designated an Ardor wallet.
All Airdrop tokens displayed by accounts belonging to people who have not been confirmed by KYC "Clearance Level 1" and do not have an Ardor wallet until the end of November 30th will be deleted.
These tokens will “return to the bank” as explained in clause 9
When these users go through KYC and create their own Ardor wallet, they will receive their 25 DOM (KAZ) tokens
Referral Program
Users who invite new users to Dominium will receive commissions as described in the referral program, but will no longer receive DOM (KAZ) tokens. In spite of this:
If inviting users convert commissions into DOM (KAZ) tokens, they will receive a 25% bonus.
DOM (KAZ) tokens obtained for referrals who have not completed KYC and do not have an Ardor wallet will also return to the “bank” as described in clause 9
Bounty program
This Saturday, November 24th, 2018, the bounty program will be completed.
Due to the rebranding problem, a limited number of participants, and a shortened period, the number of DOM tokens (KAZ) rewarded per participant will be limited to ensure a fair distribution of rewards.
The manager of the bounty campaign will inform all the campaign participants.
All non-distributed DOM (KAZ) tokens are returned to the “bank”, as explained in clause 9
All previously distributed DOM (KAZ) tokens for participants in the bounty program will be issued in accordance with the same blocking period as the Seed Round investors and founders
After that, the referral tokens are completely deducted from my account.
In the first picture my Balance is with 1000 DOM (unfortunately I did not scan when I had 1675 DOM), and in the second picture I had the Balance that I have now.
DOMINIUM didn’t have any “extensive discussion” and even a short discussion with the community, but just retroactively changed the rules and reset the accounts of its members.
For a company that positions itself as "engaged in real estate", such actions can be regarded as a direct deception of members of their community, but simply speaking - these are scammers!
I pay attention again. These people still continue to mislead gullible citizens and have not changed anything in the AIR DROP section.
You can see for yourself: https://dominium.me/ru/#airDrop
And also note that on the first scan to the left of the site’s address there is an inscription “Dominium B.V. (NL)” and on the second scan this inscription is no longer there. Maybe their site was hacked and why such changes?
Another thing is alarming. If you try to connect to their Telegram channel via a link on the site, you will find that there is no such channel in the Telegram.
When you try to connect, the following message appears: "Not found. There is no Telegram account with the username you provided."
Interesting fact. If you need to contact the Dominium support team, you will have to pay 0.25 Euro for the message. Imagine a situation where investors receive any disturbing information and there is a need to contact the support team. Good money can earn Dominium on bad news.
in my opinion you jeed to unerstamd taht sometimes it is necessary to find the undoubtful facts taht would tell you it is a scam In the AIR DROP section, we see such an announcement (still preserved) https://dominium.me/ru/#airDrop
"Air Drop
FREE tokens will only be shown in your balance once you have passed Clearance Level 1
INTRODUCE a new user and earn from 5% to 10% commission when they invest!
REGISTER an account as a company and receive 25 DOM tokens.
INTRODUCE a company and both of you receive 25 DOM!
A total of 100,000,000 DOM tokens (10%) will be given away during the Air Drop and Referral Program."
I have 67 refrails for this program. Until November 30, my account was 1675 DOM, respectively.
And on 04.12.2018, the following letter arrives in my mail:
"Dear members of the Dominium Society,
We make some significant changes to our ITO structure to protect our investors and our community, as well as remove any fake user accounts.
After extensive discussions with the community and our investors, over the past few months we have decided to make the following changes:
Airdrop program
From Monday, November 26, Airdrop will only pay DOM (KAZ) 25 tokens for newly registered users who have been confirmed by KYC "Clearance Level 1" and created / designated an Ardor wallet.
All Airdrop tokens displayed by accounts belonging to people who have not been confirmed by KYC "Clearance Level 1" and do not have an Ardor wallet until the end of November 30th will be deleted.
These tokens will “return to the bank” as explained in clause 9
When these users go through KYC and create their own Ardor wallet, they will receive their 25 DOM (KAZ) tokens
Referral Program
Users who invite new users to Dominium will receive commissions as described in the referral program, but will no longer receive DOM (KAZ) tokens. In spite of this:
If inviting users convert commissions into DOM (KAZ) tokens, they will receive a 25% bonus.
DOM (KAZ) tokens obtained for referrals who have not completed KYC and do not have an Ardor wallet will also return to the “bank” as described in clause 9
Bounty program
This Saturday, November 24th, 2018, the bounty program will be completed.
Due to the rebranding problem, a limited number of participants, and a shortened period, the number of DOM tokens (KAZ) rewarded per participant will be limited to ensure a fair distribution of rewards.
The manager of the bounty campaign will inform all the campaign participants.
All non-distributed DOM (KAZ) tokens are returned to the “bank”, as explained in clause 9
All previously distributed DOM (KAZ) tokens for participants in the bounty program will be issued in accordance with the same blocking period as the Seed Round investors and founders
After that, the referral tokens are completely deducted from my account.
In the first picture my Balance is with 1000 DOM (unfortunately I did not scan when I had 1675 DOM), and in the second picture I had the Balance that I have now.
DOMINIUM didn’t have any “extensive discussion” and even a short discussion with the community, but just retroactively changed the rules and reset the accounts of its members.
For a company that positions itself as "engaged in real estate", such actions can be regarded as a direct deception of members of their community, but simply speaking - these are scammers!
I pay attention again. These people still continue to mislead gullible citizens and have not changed anything in the AIR DROP section.
You can see for yourself: https://dominium.me/ru/#airDrop
And also note that on the first scan to the left of the site’s address there is an inscription “Dominium B.V. (NL)” and on the second scan this inscription is no longer there. Maybe their site was hacked and why such changes?
Another thing is alarming. If you try to connect to their Telegram channel via a link on the site, you will find that there is no such channel in the Telegram.
When you try to connect, the following message appears: "Not found. There is no Telegram account with the username you provided."
Interesting fact. If you need to contact the Dominium support team, you will have to pay 0.25 Euro for the message. Imagine a situation where investors receive any disturbing information and there is a need to contact the support team. Good money can earn Dominium on bad news.
I am trying to give answers to him. But he thinks we are scam cuz we decrased his rewards.
You didn’t reduce, but simply stole, you took away my reward using a made-up excuse.
I do not think that fraud is just that they have difficulties, like most projects right now. Only the rebranding is not clear ...
Hi all
it seems not scam project , you could check team profiles at linkedin , they are real
may be somthing wrong happend due to dump at market , may be they chaned some rules or decreased bounty to save thier tokens when be listed at exchanges
I suggest to open discuss group at telegram and invite some guys from the team , and start negotiation with them
according my research , this project not scam
regards
it seems not scam project , you could check team profiles at linkedin , they are real
may be somthing wrong happend due to dump at market , may be they chaned some rules or decreased bounty to save thier tokens when be listed at exchanges
I suggest to open discuss group at telegram and invite some guys from the team , and start negotiation with them
according my research , this project not scam
regards
I repeat once again for those who have not read the entire thread:
The project may be genuine, but the team may be foul.
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