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legendary
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June 05, 2024, 01:13:02 PM
#32
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People all over the place are accepting funds to help them pay their election expenses. There are laws to regulate fairness in how and when they get those funds, and from whom they get them, right? What presidential election was the porn star running in that she received funds illegally from Trump in her campaign?

Cool

You must be joking! Trump falsified the record to hide the fact he was paying a Porn Star(ish) 34 times with his campaign funds - a fraud - those are the felonies. It is so basic that I can only thing you are trying to confuse people here. Even the witnesses are largely irrelevant because all the falsified recording are in written for anyone to see, as simple as money coming from here goes to there.


That's not what TS said. Besides, juries can be bought or tricked. They are not always right.

Trump has always expressed that his payments were not for anything illegal to his knowledge; he simply trusted that the funds were being used for something legal.

However, the real damage is that our privacy is being eroded through this verdict.


Cool

No, he was using campaign funds, which require precise tracking and accounting - Trump perfectly knows this, but even if he does not, the law applies equally (not knowing a law is not a defence - I mean not any country in the world). In the same way, Trump is responsible for the correct use of the funds like the CEO of any company is responsible for controlling the last dime of their company.

It is not a question of a jury being wrong, it is a question of all the evidence being in written records for absolutely anyone to see.

Your privacy is eroded? Are you running a campaign while whoring around, paying for silence and falsifying records?

How do you know the things that you seem to know? One reason. The court acted against the right to privacy as expressed by the 4th Amendment courts adjudication. This means that the whole case should have been dropped immediately when Daniels was introduced into it, or it should have been changed to not hear any of the Daniel's arguments at all. Privacy.

Hush money? Had to do with Daniels. Privacy.

This whole case needs to be declared a mistrial because of Privacy issues between Trump and Daniels. All issues that were brought because of Daniels must be brought without having any connection to Daniels at all. If Trump is guilty of crimes, they must be found without any Daniels connection interference. 4th Amendment privacy overrules lesser law.





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legendary
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June 05, 2024, 08:59:09 AM
#31
This was an incredibly flawed case that never should have been tried.  It will be overturned on appeal.

The only reason it was pursued was to try and eliminate a political rival.  That will need to be addressed.   
legendary
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June 02, 2024, 05:59:08 PM
#30
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People all over the place are accepting funds to help them pay their election expenses. There are laws to regulate fairness in how and when they get those funds, and from whom they get them, right? What presidential election was the porn star running in that she received funds illegally from Trump in her campaign?

Cool

You must be joking! Trump falsified the record to hide the fact he was paying a Porn Star(ish) 34 times with his campaign funds - a fraud - those are the felonies. It is so basic that I can only thing you are trying to confuse people here. Even the witnesses are largely irrelevant because all the falsified recording are in written for anyone to see, as simple as money coming from here goes to there.


That's not what TS said. Besides, juries can be bought or tricked. They are not always right.

Trump has always expressed that his payments were not for anything illegal to his knowledge; he simply trusted that the funds were being used for something legal.

However, the real damage is that our privacy is being eroded through this verdict.


Cool

No, he was using campaign funds, which require precise tracking and accounting - Trump perfectly knows this, but even if he does not, the law applies equally (not knowing a law is not a defence - I mean not any country in the world). In the same way, Trump is responsible for the correct use of the funds like the CEO of any company is responsible for controlling the last dime of their company.

It is not a question of a jury being wrong, it is a question of all the evidence being in written records for absolutely anyone to see.

Your privacy is eroded? Are you running a campaign while whoring around, paying for silence and falsifying records?
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June 02, 2024, 03:53:11 PM
#29
If you look at it, these court cases have been going on for a very long time, and we do not see any results. Perhaps there is not enough evidence, or perhaps the accusations are false.

He was just found guilty of 34 felonies.   There's literally mountains of evidence in his other two cases, but he's waived his right to a speedy trial and is doing everything he can to delay any trial until after the election because A) More convictions will hurt his chances of being elected and B) He will have authority over the Dept of Justice if he is elected - so he can just order his AG to throw the cases out/potentially pardon himself.

I'd be interested and surprised if you know of any evidence at all suggesting the European Union has any influence over any of the federal or State criminal prosecutions in the US.



Hey look at that, two future felons.

Actually, Epstein was probably already a felon at that point.
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June 02, 2024, 03:52:01 PM
#28
It seems to me that the European Union does not want Trump to become president. If you look at it, these court cases have been going on for a very long time, and we do not see any results. Perhaps there is not enough evidence, or perhaps the accusations are false.
European Union isn't some kind of monolith that has one sided opinions. I would argue that most of them don't want him, but that's not "European Union" not wanting it.
And what are you talking about accusations? He was already convicted, because of EVIDENCE! By a jury that both sides agreed of being fair.

Why justice was delayed in the first place is a good question. I am thinking they wanted to make sure that there wouldn't be loopholes, and all the evidence would be gathered, and everyone else involved intervieved and sentenced. And then there's the issue that sentencing ex president isn't something anyone takes lightly.

Still, justice was delayed a lot. And there are more court cases to come, but for now, we wait for the sentence. Let's hope it will be delicious.




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June 02, 2024, 02:45:43 PM
#27
It seems to me that the European Union does not want Trump to become president. If you look at it, these court cases have been going on for a very long time, and we do not see any results. Perhaps there is not enough evidence, or perhaps the accusations are false.
legendary
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June 02, 2024, 02:19:09 PM
#26
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People all over the place are accepting funds to help them pay their election expenses. There are laws to regulate fairness in how and when they get those funds, and from whom they get them, right? What presidential election was the porn star running in that she received funds illegally from Trump in her campaign?

Cool

You must be joking! Trump falsified the record to hide the fact he was paying a Porn Star(ish) 34 times with his campaign funds - a fraud - those are the felonies. It is so basic that I can only thing you are trying to confuse people here. Even the witnesses are largely irrelevant because all the falsified recording are in written for anyone to see, as simple as money coming from here goes to there.


That's not what TS said. Besides, juries can be bought or tricked. They are not always right.

Trump has always expressed that his payments were not for anything illegal to his knowledge; he simply trusted that the funds were being used for something legal.

However, the real damage is that our privacy is being eroded through this verdict.

Cool
legendary
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June 02, 2024, 02:12:03 PM
#25
If this trial was truly about a sexual affair,

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Creating a fake company to funnel money to a porn star 2 weeks before a presidential election you're a candidate in because you don't want to follow campaign finance laws is a crime.

People all over the place are accepting funds to help them pay their election expenses. There are laws to regulate fairness in how and when they get those funds, and from whom they get them, right? What presidential election was the porn star running in that she received funds illegally from Trump in her campaign?

Cool

You must be joking! Trump falsified the record to hide the fact he was paying a Porn Star(ish) 34 times with his campaign funds - a fraud - those are the felonies. It is so basic that I can only thing you are trying to confuse people here. Even the witnesses are largely irrelevant because all the falsified recording are in written for anyone to see, as simple as money coming from here goes to there.
legendary
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June 02, 2024, 01:36:15 PM
#24
If this trial was truly about a sexual affair,

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Creating a fake company to funnel money to a porn star 2 weeks before a presidential election you're a candidate in because you don't want to follow campaign finance laws is a crime.

People all over the place are accepting funds to help them pay their election expenses. There are laws to regulate fairness in how and when they get those funds, and from whom they get them, right? What presidential election was the porn star running in that she received funds illegally from Trump in her campaign?

Cool
legendary
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June 02, 2024, 05:00:32 AM
#23
If this trial was truly about a sexual affair,

it wasn't.

it was about him committing fraud to help him win the election.

Cheating on your wife isn't a crime.

Paying a porn star to stay quiet isn't a crime.

Creating a fake company to funnel money to a porn star 2 weeks before a presidential election you're a candidate in because you don't want to follow campaign finance laws is a crime.

And it is unrelated to the witnesses too. The evidence that the jury had to take into account was simply the records of signed checks and transactions from Trump to Cohen and from him to the Adult Films Professional known as "Stormy". Guys, there is a whole thread full of transcripts and views here, so I am not sure we should re-discuss the same topic over and over in different places.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466238.360

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June 02, 2024, 02:47:39 AM
#22
If this trial was truly about a sexual affair,

it wasn't.

it was about him committing fraud to help him win the election.

Cheating on your wife isn't a crime.

Paying a porn star to stay quiet isn't a crime.

Creating a fake company to funnel money to a porn star 2 weeks before a presidential election you're a candidate in because you don't want to follow campaign finance laws is a crime.
newbie
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June 01, 2024, 07:50:36 PM
#21
I admit to being really surprised by the outcome. I was expecting at least one juror to keep the prosecution from winning.


Trump is now a convicted mass felon.

Should be interesting to see how this now unfolds.

Please realize this thread is for civility and discussion.
legendary
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June 01, 2024, 06:55:35 PM
#20

It has been reported that the case involving Donald Trump won't be resolved until after Election Day. Despite this, I still see hope among people who want to support him in the upcoming election, and I want to understand why. The country hasn't improved since he left, and it continues to be run by capitalists. Everything happening makes the country look like the third world country

Sentencing is in July 11. So this case will be resolved even before s before republicans picking Trump as 2024 presidental nominee. But dumb is facing three other criminal cases as well that could take time to get resolved. If this would be any other person then ex president, he would be in holding cell already and after that rest of his life in prison. But for ex president, i would guess it's going to be just home detention with an ankle bracelet. But could be rest of his life. I am also interested to see if this sentencing includes any financial penalties.


The fact that there are many others including Cohen who are not in jail cells, but did things even worse than Trump, shows that this whole thing was a set-up. But it is backfiring.


"I Just Donated $300k To Trump"...I'm prepared to lose friends. Here's why.



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shaun-maguire-i-just-donated-300k-trump
Clinton's campaign and voted for her.

By 2020 I was disillusioned and didn't vote – I didn't like either option.

Now, in 2024, I believe this is one of the most important elections of my lifetime, and I'm supporting Trump.

I know that I'll lose friends for this. Some will refuse to do business with me. The media will probably demonize me, as they have so many others before me. But despite this, I still believe it's the right thing to do.

I refuse to live in a society where people are afraid to speak.

I'm going to start off with something provocative, but I think it leads to a different take on the most controversial Trump issue, which is obviously January 6th. So here goes nothing.

I believe the 2016 election was manipulated to hurt Hilary Clinton and to help Donald Trump.

Hilary Clinton herself believes this, she has denied the 2016 election result dozens of times, and still does to this day. Plot twist: I agree with her! Look into Guccifer 2.0 which was the "hacker group" that strategically leaked her emails (through Wikileaks) in a drip campaign at just the right moments. Turns out it was the Russian GRU. And remember all those fake news and bot farms? These incidents are the tip of the spear -- some of the publicly known incidents. There was extreme manipulation happening during the 2016 election.






Best of luck to President Trump.

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Cool

Deleted you as Cohen did get convicted and spend time in a cell. Please note I quote your post and highlighted your mistake.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-11-22/michael-cohen-completes-prison-term-after-trump-related-crimes

He spent over 13  months in prison.

Note your other post was fine and I left it alone.
newbie
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June 01, 2024, 05:43:41 PM
#19
Can someone list the 34 counts?






legendary
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June 01, 2024, 04:50:04 PM
#18
I don't think this hush money trial is going to change people's perception of Trump for the worst.

It's just going to make him look even better to anyone from the center to the populist right. It's crazy that this trial was rushed to be completed on election year even though there had been ongoing proceedings for so many years. The other trials are going to be about more important things trump broke rules about, but I guess democrats weren't able to judge shop as easily for these so they aren't using them so much.

It goes to shoe that justice isn't independent even in the U.S. that supposedly has one of the best judicial systems. It certainly is a political trial and at this point Biden has done an entire Genocide. A war criminal running against someone found guilty for putting his dick in a woman and trying to hide it. The one worst than the other.
legendary
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June 01, 2024, 02:59:56 PM
#17
Yeah. However, Trump can run for president even from prison, if I'm not mistaken. But how will the Democrats create a criminal image for him before the election? This is their chance.
Yes, there's no law that stops a convicted felon from becoming the president, which is a bit funny if you ask me.
IMO they tried to convict him for the riots but eventually succeeded elsewhere. It's all a setup that's supposed to destroy his image before the election.
I don't believe that the verdicts right before the end of presidential campaign is a coincidence. They want the public to reconsider and succumb to peer pressure.
"-Don't tell me you're going to vote for that convict, the president should serve as an example."
 
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June 01, 2024, 11:37:04 AM
#16
I read through everyone comment, I saw some in support and others against the ruling.
What I can say is, AMERICA HAS FALLEN,  where pedophiles,gays, drug addicts, Molesters, sex traffickers, satanists rule with a fallen system against all Real Men.
Nice move, I await the Town Hall Trump will have with Elon Musk. All good, he is now a criminal,lol says those who do worst just to cover up there evil.

The world is aware now, let see how it goes......
legendary
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June 01, 2024, 05:40:44 AM
#15
The fact that there are many others including Cohen who are not in jail cells, but did things even worse than Trump, shows that this whole thing was a set-up. But it is backfiring.
Lol Cheesy, keep on coping. You mean Cohen, one of those best people dump was talking about? Who served his sentence, because he did what dump asked him to do? Because he cooperated unlike dump? Because he taped him? You are really following different feeds.

And of course some people will support the Trump, as some people support only ideas, that are strongly against scientific method or consensus, like you for example.

I've been wondering why reality is such a hard pill to swallow for you, that every unlikely alternative is better? Would reality make you seem too insignificant or something? Would it help of you to think of it as setting you free and have fulfilling life instead? You just have to accept it, you know, like you accepted what ever religion you have? This way you would have actual overwhelming evidence to support your views.

Here's a simple image to remind you:


I am not trying to hijack this thread to speak about reality, but i think i need to remind you the concept of it, because what's happening now is part of it, and you need to accept that.

Best of luck to President Trump.
I automatically misread that luck as a cuck as in: "Best of cuck: President Trump".
Must be because i am used to it coming from "i dO mY OwN rEseArCH, without any actual science involved" -type of crowd, that are using it as a slur a lot.
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June 01, 2024, 05:30:35 AM
#14
Yeah. However, Trump can run for president even from prison, if I'm not mistaken. But how will the Democrats create a criminal image for him before the election? This is their chance.
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June 01, 2024, 05:20:10 AM
#13
As far as I can see it's because of the issue of having an extramarital affair with a porn actress and conspiring to buy the silence of a porn actor days before the 2016 election and covering his tracks in business records,

Was it not for something like this that Clinton resigned? In any case, instead of admitting it, he denies it and says he will appeal.

I don't envy you Americans, having to choose between an old coot who you don't know if he's going to die or sleep while he tries to talk and can't articulate his words properly or this mafia style guy.

I don't really like the choices where I live either, but they don't seem so like cartoonish to me.



That is something I agree on and to this day I don't know understand about the American politics. Democracy ideally is a system which allows the common people to be free to choose the best of the best of their country to represent them within the government and actually solve problem who affect the majority or people. But it would seem the American polítics has been kidnapped by either corporations and donors, the deviate the process and pass laws which only help those  donors and corporatiors to go increase their percentages of profits through the years.

Ironically, The United States brags about being the center of democracy of the world and yet, I consider there are better democratic countries than in the USA, where donations from private companies do not interfere with the destiny of the nation.
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