Topic: Donald Trump says he will never quit US presidential race (Read 2965 times)

why not? The prospect that Trump could win it all has establishment Republicans increasingly nervous.

Here is possibly the greatest problem of all. The coming collapse of the banking system.

We have a debt money system. Money is created whenever a loan is made by the banks. In other words, loans are not loans. The word "loan" is legal language to keep the people from understanding what the money system really is.

Since all but a tiny amount of the money that exists has been brought into existence through loan-money-creations, where can anybody ever get enough money to make the payments on the loans? If nothing else, once all the loan money has been paid back, where can we get money for the interest? After all, all the money has been borrowed. We must borrow more to pay the interest.

Back when the Federal Reserve banking system was small, this didn't mean anything. But now, the whole country operates on it. Congress doesn't understand this completely, but they understand it enough to know that we need to keep borrowing money just to stay afloat. More than that, the amount that needs to be borrowed has to be in line with the amount that we can repay, which is measured by the income taxes that they take in.

So, the candidate who has the best thoughts for borrowing money and getting enough money back to at least make payments on the loans that Government borrowed from the banks, he is the guy who is most likely to be set in place as president.

The creation of new money must balance the ability to repay. If it doesn't within the country, we need to take the whole process overseas to find people and nations who are willing and able (if ignorantly) to get into the debt money system. Even though this system is essentially a fake money system, it is one that if it collapsed at this stage, things would look very bad for the people in Congress at the time of the collapse.

Congress is literally pulling its hair out trying to outguess everything that might bring the money system down. And the funny thing is, first time Congress people are sworn to secrecy upon entering office. Even Ron Paul, who wants to do away with the Federal Reserve Bank, has not let the secret out in any way that is easy to put your finger on.

the media is just paid off by the corporations sanders is against, not hard to see. especially with the last debate where there was clear favoritism for Clinton. I hear she's losing points in the polls recently because her bullshit is being exposed in a way the dumb public can understand though.

as long as it takes for each of them to grow a brain and find an actual politician suited for presidency.

They're doing their best to drive Sanders out, Hilary has already tried to play the sexism card a number of times on him and then there was that shit with the blacklivesmatter protesters, don't get me started on Ron paul either because what he went through was downright abuse and blatant propaganda on the part of the media.

accurate. but not everyone honest in politics has been driven out, sanders seems pretty honest.

he has pretty good chance to. pretty pathetic that a businessman has a better chance at presidency these days than actual politicians.

Maybe he will never quit but I hope that he won't win it

Yeah yeah, paint all school graduates or dropouts as stupid without ever having known their circumstances, even though I'm in the UK I'm a school leaver and I think Trump is a moron, the reason he's popular is because he basically snubs elitist twats who think that everything in life revolves around getting a university degree and in order to have any sort of valid opinion you have to have more than one masters in a subject in order to be classed as intelligent.

As many people are saying now, Donald Trump is something that the political establishment has created themselves because of your exact sort of smug arrogance, while I don't support him in the slightest, it's great fun watching people like you squirm in horror over him. Anyone who is that hostile to Trump only have themselves to blame for being so blatantly hostile towards a specific demographic and it's now coming back to bite them in the arse, these people don't support him because they all like him, they support him because he's the only person left that's not part of the political establishment and is not willing to play by the rules the mainstream media sets.

The only people who were honest in politics and had genuine beliefs or arguments were driven out, so now Donald Trump is what has replaced them.

If Trump ever becomes King, I mean President, I wonder how long it will take Congress to impeach him?

^ agreed that the american military won the vietnam war. But the american people didn't win anything. Neither did the vietnamese.


Have my doubts about that. Like you said he is working the system. He has been buying politicians to make them do what he wants. He is successful and well connected. Maybe he can now be the president. Why would he want to change a system where he is so successful?

The American military won the Viet Nam war. The media lost this war for the eyes of the American people. It was all part of the PR that government was doing to twist the minds of the American people.

In addition, while the American military won WWII, the American people lost the big governemnt fascism takeover while that war was being won.

Here is why:


Well it is easy  what is the last war America won?  WWII   (I know they did not win it alone.)

SO the people here are pretty tired of losing wars and having loved ones killed or coming home missing a hand ,leg, eye, mind etc.

So how did America win WWII?  By fucking people that were OF Italian, German , Japanese  decent living in the USA.

USA basically violated the constitutional rights of all three groups.  Read up on what they did to people that were Japanese and lived here.  

They also restricted  Italians and Germans living here.  Finally they nuked Japan not once but twice.

SO when Trump talks badly about Muslims   restricting them banning them etc  many Americans think it would work to stop terrorist attacks.

Many Americans think that Muslims are not controlling their own people so we will have to control them.

Trump knows business he will cut a deal with Russia , China and India   to stop Muslim terror attacks.


  

 Many Americans are thinking a version of the above case. I know because I live here and hear people say stuff like the above. In fact being a native New Yorker I have quite a few immigrant friends that have been here 10 or more years.  Some Russian and some Chinese  that both believe  the above idea could work.


Please understand the above is not what is right or wrong or what I believe.  It is what I have seen read and heard.

I don't see why Trunp would quit the presidential race. Here abroad it seems like Trump could get a victory, the 'European favorite' to win the US presidential election month back was actually Jet Bush/Hillary Clinton, but both seems to fall in the votings - despite Trumps, sometimes crazy statements, he seems like the next US president.

He don't have any reason to quit US presidential race.
It seems he have very good chance to become uS president next year.
It's really interesting to follow US presidential race from abroad, listen all this crazy statements and comments from Trump and wondering what is going on in America if such person have the best chance to replace Obama in White house

Democrats unsure Hillary Clinton can beat Donald Trump in general election


Democratic Party activists are conflicted over whether Hillary Clinton can take on Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump in the general election, with some fearing she provides too much ammunition for the flamboyant businessman’s style of attack.

While Mr. Trump is leading the national polls and calling the shots in what’s become a circuslike GOP primary season, Mrs. Clinton tops a sedentary Democratic race with two other opponents respectfully nipping at her without doing much damage — and party stalwarts are happy to have it that way.

“I hear a lot of people saying, ‘You know, I’ve watched the Democratic debates and the Republican debates, and they’re so different. I’m sure glad I’m on the Democratic side and they’re talking about the issues. They don’t always agree with one another, but they explain why,’” said David Allen, a Democratic Party leader in Barnstead, New Hampshire. “Democrats have resolved themselves to not go into a circus and tear one another down.”

But Mr. Allen said he does worry about how the eventual Democratic nominee will stand up to the sort of withering barbs Mr. Trump has dished out to his own side.

“We’re going to start to have to look at how the [Democratic] candidates play against Donald Trump, because he’s certainly holding onto his lead in the Republican Party, and he has certainly played the Republican candidates in a way that has hurt some of his opposition, and I think people are going to start asking, ‘All right, who’s going to stand up under his type of campaigning?’” Mr. Allen said. “If Bernie [Sanders] is the candidate, Trump will play up how un-American socialism is, and if Hillary gets it, he will dig up everything in the past 40 years and use it — and won’t mince words in using it.”

Other activists say there’s a sense that, while it’s Mrs. Clinton’s turn to run, there’s no swell of on-the-ground enthusiasm for her to carry the party’s banner into the general election.

“I don’t think the [Democratic primary] race has generated all that much intensity,” said Ron Romine, chairman of the Spartanburg, South Carolina, Democrats, who is neutral in the race. “I don’t feel like anywhere in the state there’s all that much passion. The usual suspects will go out and vote, but there’s not an intensity that you might think there should be with the first woman.

“Hillary is so familiar, she’s been around forever. She has her supporters, and they’re going to go out and vote for her, so there’s not a whole lot to parse out,” he said. “You either like her or you’re not enthusiastic.”

Mr. Trump already has started taking aim at Mrs. Clinton, just as some activists had feared.

At a rally in South Carolina on Wednesday, the billionaire real estate mogul declared “war” on the Clintons as he explained why he wouldn’t attack Mrs. Clinton as “low-energy” — the term he used to devastate his GOP rival, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

“I just don’t like to use the same thing twice on one of my enemies, because I consider them enemies,” Mr. Trump said. “We view this as war. Don’t we view this as war? It’s war, it’s war!”

Bothered by Mrs. Clinton’s accusation that he has a “penchant for sexism,” Mr. Trump continued to attack her husband, former President Bill Clinton, saying he was “one of the great abusers [of women] of the world.”

The Clinton camp this week said they would “stand up” to Mr. Trump. Deputy Communications Director Christina Reynolds said in a statement that “Hillary Clinton will stand up to him, as she has from the beginning,” citing Mr. Trump’s “demeaning” remarks about “women, immigrants, Asian-Americans, Muslims, the disabled or hard-working Americans,” adding that he has “pushed around nearly all of his fellow Republicans.”

Mrs. Clinton’s own supporters seem unfazed by the threat of Mr. Trump.

“I expected that to come up no matter who the [Republican] candidate was [and] the Bill Clinton past — I’m not the least bit surprised,” said Bonnie Chehames, who is campaigning for Mrs. Clinton in New Hampshire. “I can’t imagine Trump beating Hillary Clinton, and I don’t care what the polls say. The Republican Party will be fractured if Trump’s nominated, and that’s good for the Democrats.”


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/3/democrats-unsure-hillary-clinton-can-beat-donald-t/

One unusual and interesting thing about Trump is he has a long history in business - in the business of paying off politicians who try to get things from him, shut him down, whatever. 

So this is a guy that knows exactly what it means that republicans and democrats are the same.  He knows the system, from a capitalist point of view.

It's certainly not an Ayn Rand point of view, because she thought that intelligent capitalists should go on strike, instead of working the system.

Anyway, he may just be a guy who would be able to reform the system.  Well....maybe.....

Trump may not quit. He'll keep on trying through the next few elections until he dies of old age.

When you die, it isn't you anymore. So, he may not quit after all.

 

It seems like not everyone is a fan, heh:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/01/trump-is-disgusting-skywriters-rose-parade-california 

Don't know about that. More like socialize costs and privatize gains as most others. He isn't that much libertarian. More a populist. He says whatever he believes people want to hear to get attention.


Helps with name recognition more. In america and abroad. Free publicity for his businesses everywhere. And if he is nominated or wins the presidency much better. Many don't like his views. But almost everyone knows who he is. And money trumps views.

Will Donald Trump's run for US president help his business?

All government is racist. They are racist by not accepting the race of people who are racist. Trump simply needs to show people how this is the fact.

I don't think Trump is serious about winning. I think he is serious about playing the candidacy game. And I think he would accept the position if he won. But I don't think that he is playing the game to win.