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the problem is that the news media in our country isn't also reliable. we don't even know these articles are true. it would be funny to actually watch the news even the GMA or this inquirer saying something else than what was being published elsewhere. you'd be surprised that even the personalities from prison detained for drug trafficking are still published to these news media.

To be honest, Dutertes response to COVID has been long criticized, and so has been his ruling of the country, so I am really not surprised that they are forcing privately-owned companies to donate half of the vaccines to the government. It seems that he wants to dip his toes in both pools with extracting money from the ADB and extorting companies. But when you are that type of autocrat, anything goes.
I don't follow political news in the Philippines...
But I do agree with you that Duterte's leadership has been criticized for a long time and he doesn't care about it like that. forcing private companies to donate vaccine funds looks like indirect blackmail and is likely to make things worse there.

But Duterte is really not a good leader in times of needs especially that all of his efforts are not enough to lead.
Vaccines in Philippines are not properly allocated and regulated because corrupt authorities are still doing their best to thrift the budget for the vaccine and get some.
Isn't reasonable if governments will have a fair price for the mass and for poor people? In this pandemic, does money and corruption still matters?

even the US can't handle this covid19. look how much homeless are there in US today because of the joblessness due to covid. if it weren't for duterte, there would have been war as well apart from covid.  i'm fine watching Manila Bay still.
The truth is that the covid vaccination isn't plain and smooth in many countries, including from tier one, but the media in general only focus in countries ruled by right wing governments. A good example is USA which was constantly attacked by the national and international media due to the fact Trump was the president, but once Biden replaced him, this same media shut up, as the whole covid issue was instantly solved on that country.
I don't put my hand on fire for Duterte and it's pretty sure corrupt agents are profiting from the vaccines as middlemen in Philippines, but at same time I don't fall in the media's trap that make us believe only right wind governments are having a hard time managing covid pandemic.
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When the government asked for money from the ADB Asian Development Bank to purchase COVID-19 vaccines, I found it odd that they were still demanding so much from private companies in my country. We know that people are without a source of income and that businesses are closed due to lockdowns, implying that they aren't making much money from the current pandemic. Now, some private companies are attempting to vaccinate their employees by importing vaccines that are much cheaper but there is a protocol requiring them to donate 50% of the vaccine purchased to the government.  

I also discovered that vaccines sold in this country are twice as expensive as those sold in other nations and that vaccines purchased by local governments would be given to governments in order to target areas with a large number of cases. Well, there's nothing wrong with prioritizing high-risk areas in order to reduce the country's active cases, but I'm also curious about how they want to use the ADB's $400 million vaccine loan. We are falling behind in the SEA since other countries' vaccine programs began a long time ago, while ours, not implemented and resulted in a slew of nonsense conditions that will keep the country behind in vaccination. Take notice that daily cases are approaching 10,000, placing us in the top two categories for most cases in Southeast Asia, and we are currently under ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) for the third time, I believe.

Is there any other country that has enacted a similar mandate?

I'm sure that we're in the same country and it's honestly so disappointing how the government handle the situation. Instead of helping the people, they're actually taking advantage of the situation. Lots of private companies want to help yet due to political issues, the government wouldn't allow it. Lots of people are dying yet they're still thinking of their own good. I'm trying to be positive that we'll survive this pandemic but I think corruption is making the situation worse.
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It saddened me most when one of my countrymen outcry their voices internationally due to the fact that our government is too deaf to hear. Too many people are dying due to incompetency of our leaders especially the DOH secretary while other officials are having the best days of their lives in beaches. Furthermore, it is quite absurd to have this kind of agreement. It is clearly shown that all funds for the vaccines are out of hand and probably corruption is undertaking.
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The government has a program for it. They are the only who can buy the vaccines. No one, no company is allowed but the government alone can buy these vaccines and this is for the purpose of transparency. The program includes "Bayanihan" Basically its about helping each other.

A big company contributes to buying some vaccines has to give back while the government had allowed them for this procurement.
There is no blackmailing there, these companies sign contracts and agreed to help each other before they buy these vaccines.

The employees receive vaccines and at the same time the government get some vaccines to provide for the people, in fact former Senator BAM AQUINO was vaccinated.
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the problem is that the news media in our country isn't also reliable. we don't even know these articles are true. it would be funny to actually watch the news even the GMA or this inquirer saying something else than what was being published elsewhere. you'd be surprised that even the personalities from prison detained for drug trafficking are still published to these news media.

To be honest, Dutertes response to COVID has been long criticized, and so has been his ruling of the country, so I am really not surprised that they are forcing privately-owned companies to donate half of the vaccines to the government. It seems that he wants to dip his toes in both pools with extracting money from the ADB and extorting companies. But when you are that type of autocrat, anything goes.
I don't follow political news in the Philippines...
But I do agree with you that Duterte's leadership has been criticized for a long time and he doesn't care about it like that. forcing private companies to donate vaccine funds looks like indirect blackmail and is likely to make things worse there.

But Duterte is really not a good leader in times of needs especially that all of his efforts are not enough to lead.
Vaccines in Philippines are not properly allocated and regulated because corrupt authorities are still doing their best to thrift the budget for the vaccine and get some.
Isn't reasonable if governments will have a fair price for the mass and for poor people? In this pandemic, does money and corruption still matters?

even the US can't handle this covid19. look how much homeless are there in US today because of the joblessness due to covid. if it weren't for duterte, there would have been war as well apart from covid.  i'm fine watching Manila Bay still.


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To be honest, Dutertes response to COVID has been long criticized, and so has been his ruling of the country, so I am really not surprised that they are forcing privately-owned companies to donate half of the vaccines to the government. It seems that he wants to dip his toes in both pools with extracting money from the ADB and extorting companies. But when you are that type of autocrat, anything goes.
I don't follow political news in the Philippines...
But I do agree with you that Duterte's leadership has been criticized for a long time and he doesn't care about it like that. forcing private companies to donate vaccine funds looks like indirect blackmail and is likely to make things worse there.

But Duterte is really not a good leader in times of needs especially that all of his efforts are not enough to lead.

Vaccines in Philippines are not properly allocated and regulated because corrupt authorities are still doing their best to thrift the budget for the vaccine and get some.

Isn't reasonable if governments will have a fair price for the mass and for poor people? In this pandemic, does money and corruption still matters?
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That's the problem, the stupid government is so incompetent that they didn't get the first batch of vaccine knowing the fact that they are limited since the production isn't polished yet. I wouldn't necessarily say that my country has difficulty because the pharmaceutical companies were the ones that approached and all they need is a simple paper of authorization and they didn't do it.

Hmm.. I heard that the Brazilian president (Jair Bolsonaro) turned down an offer from Pfizer to purchase a few million vaccine doses in 2020. I don't know whether the same incident happened with your country or not. But these are big blunders and now it is not possible to secure enough doses. Almost all the vaccine manufacturers are facing bottlenecks in their production and previously signed contracts are not being fulfilled. So any new contracts are not being considered for now.
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The problem on how the government do respond into the presence of the problem in thr country makes a gap and become a main reason why the respond is taking too long which do also prolong the burden of the people. Incompetency and lack of proper governance might be leading the way why there is still no efficient resolve on the current state of your country's problem with regards to this pandemic. Although it is understandable that your country seems to belong into the third world making your government borrow a big amount of money, still the fund must be used properly and other methods to help lessen the cases must have been done not primarily depending only on vaccines and response must have already been done at early stage.
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I don't know which country you are living in, so I can't really comment on the other issue. But as far as the vaccine availability is concerned, only a handful of the countries have been able to secure enough volume of vaccines to inoculate a large part of the population. More than 95% of the countries have faced difficulty in sourcing the vaccines. Obviously the Chinese vaccines are available, but they are extremely ineffective, as seen from the case with Chile, Serbia and Hungary. 
That's the problem, the stupid government is so incompetent that they didn't get the first batch of vaccine knowing the fact that they are limited since the production isn't polished yet. I wouldn't necessarily say that my country has difficulty because the pharmaceutical companies were the ones that approached and all they need is a simple paper of authorization and they didn't do it.
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If you are living in my country you will know what I am talking about, the blatant corruption and persecution of political opponents and the incompetence, why wouldn't you blame that? The government is supposed to be working for its citizen and not the other way around, maybe if people stop enabling this kind of mentality, maybe we might see some changes. And in regards to vaccines, my country hasn't received anything yet because they are incompetent.

I don't know which country you are living in, so I can't really comment on the other issue. But as far as the vaccine availability is concerned, only a handful of the countries have been able to secure enough volume of vaccines to inoculate a large part of the population. More than 95% of the countries have faced difficulty in sourcing the vaccines. Obviously the Chinese vaccines are available, but they are extremely ineffective, as seen from the case with Chile, Serbia and Hungary. 
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The Ph government fail to handle this crisis effectively. Imagine its been over a year since the virus hit the country yet the situation is still getting worse day by day.

It seems the past lockdown which utterly affect the economy and the citizens are useless because we dont see improvement. There's already a vaccine but not all can get those due to lack of supply and they're prioritizing the frontliners (which is understandable).

They took a loan to buy vaccines but still has conditions to private companies to donate 50% of their purchased vaccine? I wont be surprise if these companies chose to closed down and migrate to other countries.

Since the very beginning of the Covid spread in mainland China, the PH already failed to control the entry of foreign flights. I am also one of the people who doesn't believe that all sorts of these quarantines were effective. Government agencies has been monetizing the situation, that even the national healthcare system are the ones orchestrating the whole corruption.
I'm so sick of hearing all these Covid vaccines stuff. The government of the PH for sure will have their opportunity to steal money from the people again.
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There is no point in blaming the government, because the vaccines are in short supply right now. A few countries such as US, UK and Israel have managed to vaccinate a large part of their population, but almost all the other countries have failed to secure enough doses for their population. Countries such as Serbia, Hungary and Chile went for the Chinese vaccines, but now it is clear that these vaccines were ineffective. But I will not blame the governments in these countries, because they didn't had any other choice.
If you are living in my country you will know what I am talking about, the blatant corruption and persecution of political opponents and the incompetence, why wouldn't you blame that? The government is supposed to be working for its citizen and not the other way around, maybe if people stop enabling this kind of mentality, maybe we might see some changes. And in regards to vaccines, my country hasn't received anything yet because they are incompetent.
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The Ph government fail to handle this crisis effectively. Imagine its been over a year since the virus hit the country yet the situation is still getting worse day by day.

It seems the past lockdown which utterly affect the economy and the citizens are useless because we dont see improvement. There's already a vaccine but not all can get those due to lack of supply and they're prioritizing the frontliners (which is understandable).

They took a loan to buy vaccines but still has conditions to private companies to donate 50% of their purchased vaccine? I wont be surprise if these companies chose to closed down and migrate to other countries.
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Let me guess, we are from the same country? Because in my country, the government doesn't care about the people, they only care about their image and they want to benefit big in the vaccine purchase and people have compared the same vaccines to be used here in other countries and the difference are astronomically high.

There is no point in blaming the government, because the vaccines are in short supply right now. A few countries such as US, UK and Israel have managed to vaccinate a large part of their population, but almost all the other countries have failed to secure enough doses for their population. Countries such as Serbia, Hungary and Chile went for the Chinese vaccines, but now it is clear that these vaccines were ineffective. But I will not blame the governments in these countries, because they didn't had any other choice.
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Let me guess, we are from the same country? Because in my country, the government doesn't care about the people, they only care about their image and they want to benefit big in the vaccine purchase and people have compared the same vaccines to be used here in other countries and the difference are astronomically high.
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Therefore, I am very surprised by countries that provide their citizens with vaccines from China which are proven to have a very low level of effectiveness.
I agree that the government should choose the best vaccine for its citizens and not because there is a political agenda to sacrifice the health of its citizens.
The COVID-19 pandemic is a serious problem and must be handled seriously too, so it is the government's obligation to provide the best for its citizens.

There was hardly any other choice for the poorer nations. Vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen were hoarded by the richer nations and the supplies were not available to third world nations. Russia offered Sputnik V vaccine to some of the poorer nations, but the quantity that was available was very low. So the only vaccines that were available in good numbers were from China - Sinovac, Sinopharm and CanSino Biologics. These companies claimed that their vaccines are very effective, but now they are turning out to be huge disappointments. 
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There's always something wrong in the system, if the government allocates and uses the funds they have properly there won't be any need to suck private companies' money requiring them to donate half of the vaccines they purchase to the government. The main root of this is corruption, some politicians are using this pandemic to their advantage. We are facing the same problem here in our country where Pfizer was not able to get approval because they were not able to contact the one in charge of the vaccine. The government wants the vaccine from China which has little efficacy compared to Pfizer. The obvious reason is they have a cut from it for every vaccine they buy in China.
Has anyone read the recent news, Chinese top control disease official admits the low efficiency of their vaccine. Now, this is really a screw up. How can you trust their vaccine if their top official admitted himself about its low performance? And what will happen if there will be bad side effects instead of protecting the person from the virus? The governments really need to think about which vaccine will be good for its people. Not because of some political agenda. I hope we all surpass this human trial very soon.

Therefore, I am very surprised by countries that provide their citizens with vaccines from China which are proven to have a very low level of effectiveness.
I agree that the government should choose the best vaccine for its citizens and not because there is a political agenda to sacrifice the health of its citizens.
The COVID-19 pandemic is a serious problem and must be handled seriously too, so it is the government's obligation to provide the best for its citizens.
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There's always something wrong in the system, if the government allocates and uses the funds they have properly there won't be any need to suck private companies' money requiring them to donate half of the vaccines they purchase to the government. The main root of this is corruption, some politicians are using this pandemic to their advantage. We are facing the same problem here in our country where Pfizer was not able to get approval because they were not able to contact the one in charge of the vaccine. The government wants the vaccine from China which has little efficacy compared to Pfizer. The obvious reason is they have a cut from it for every vaccine they buy in China.

Has anyone read the recent news, Chinese top control disease official admits the low efficiency of their vaccine. Now, this is really a screw up. How can you trust their vaccine if their top official admitted himself about its low performance? And what will happen if there will be bad side effects instead of protecting the person from the virus? The governments really need to think about which vaccine will be good for its people. Not because of some political agenda. I hope we all surpass this human trial very soon.
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There's always something wrong in the system, if the government allocates and uses the funds they have properly there won't be any need to suck private companies' money requiring them to donate half of the vaccines they purchase to the government. The main root of this is corruption, some politicians are using this pandemic to their advantage. We are facing the same problem here in our country where Pfizer was not able to get approval because they were not able to contact the one in charge of the vaccine. The government wants the vaccine from China which has little efficacy compared to Pfizer. The obvious reason is they have a cut from it for every vaccine they buy in China.
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maybe the government seek help for private companies because of how expensive the vaccine sold in this country but thats not fair on why the vaccine pricing are not equal ? what they think to your country , rich ? but 400 million seems large enough to accumulate the 10k cases of covid and they must start the vaccination now for christ sake because the more they wait the more the cases will grow and the funds are going to short .
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