have a little respect for others opinions ,even if you don't agree with it.....or just ignore it,go to another topic
Checking back at some of your more recent posts, I am yet to find any respect from you for people who disagree with your opinion.
Topic: Donetsk activists proclaim region's independence from Ukraine (Read 1076 times)
Checking back at some of your more recent posts, I am yet to find any respect from you for people who disagree with your opinion.
zolace, it was the question. If you really think so then it's not my problem, you a have right to believe in whatever you want. 
to de-legitimize the newly formed Ukrainian government.
Lol, wake up! This "newly-formed" government is illegitimate already.I really can't understand, do you really believe in what you write, or it's just a trolling? "De-legitimize coup covernment" it's a Joke of the Year.
Oh it is kinda normal in internet to call "trolling" on people with different opinion.
to de-legitimize the newly formed Ukrainian government.
Lol, wake up! This "newly-formed" government is illegitimate already.I really can't understand, do you really believe in what you write, or it's just a trolling? "De-legitimize coup covernment" it's a Joke of the Year.
Lol, wake up! This "newly-formed" government is illegitimate already.
This "newly-formed" government is illegitimate already.Remember, he used the word newly formed, not newly elected. The present bunch of politicians who call themselves the rulers of Ukraine are actually a group of neo-nazis and oligarchs, who were installed there with the help of the 5 billion $$$ which Nuland spent.
Yellow, <1654 - "Ukraine before totalitarian regime";
1654-1917 - Gifts from russian monarchs;
Blue, 1922 - Gift from Lenin;
Red, 1939-40 - Gift from Stalin;
Green, 1954 - Gift from Khrushchev.
I think this need to be quoted regularly to sink in.
Given undefined nature of Ukrainian borders, Russia definitely can have claims to Blue and Green territories, and Poland to the Red.
Territories presented to Ukraine by the Russian monarchs are, on the other hand, indisputable as monarchs were within their legitimate right to give lands as present
to de-legitimize the newly formed Ukrainian government.
Lol, wake up! This "newly-formed" government is illegitimate already.I really can't understand, do you really believe in what you write, or it's just a trolling? "De-legitimize coup covernment" it's a Joke of the Year.
Putin’s goal is twofold: 1) to destabilize Ukraine and 2) to de-legitimize the newly formed Ukrainian government. In eastern Ukraine, Russia is using the Crimean method of creating instability, staging protetests for Russian intervention and using the pretext of protecting ethnic Russians from ultra-Nationalists attack from western Ukraine. However, eastern Ukraine may be different. Ukraine’s troops were employed to quell and repel Russian provocateurs in its eastern borders. Ukraine must remain vigilant and not to employ heavy handed tactics that may add credence to Putin’s claim that ethnic Russians are under attack. It would be wise if Ukraine does request an intervention of UN troops to monitor the situation in eastern Ukraine. More important Ukraine must find and elect a candidate that can create a consensus amongst the ethic Russians in Ukraine; internationally remain neutral in all Russian and European affairs and not seek admission into NATO.
I wonder how you can type all that with a strait face, when 1. Putin (via Lavrov) called multiple times on US/EU to help stabilise the situation in Ukraine by conducting constitutional reform and federalisation of the country, so that bother South-East and West of Ukraine can coexist peacefully and 2. The coup government does not need de-legitimising as it is initially illegitimate - it used the same methods to get to power as the people in South-East are using to gain independence.
Oh, and all presidential candidates that were even remotely sympathetic to the South-East and the Russian population there were removed from the election run.
Putin’s goal is twofold: 1) to destabilize Ukraine and 2) to de-legitimize the newly formed Ukrainian government. In eastern Ukraine, Russia is using the Crimean method of creating instability, staging protetests for Russian intervention and using the pretext of protecting ethnic Russians from ultra-Nationalists attack from western Ukraine. However, eastern Ukraine may be different. Ukraine’s troops were employed to quell and repel Russian provocateurs in its eastern borders. Ukraine must remain vigilant and not to employ heavy handed tactics that may add credence to Putin’s claim that ethnic Russians are under attack. It would be wise if Ukraine does request an intervention of UN troops to monitor the situation in eastern Ukraine. More important Ukraine must find and elect a candidate that can create a consensus amongst the ethic Russians in Ukraine; internationally remain neutral in all Russian and European affairs and not seek admission into NATO.
That is not true, they don't like each other but as you said they do have some sort of autonomy which makes them happy but why couldn't the same be done in Ukraine?
Issues with language. The Western Ukrainians want their Eastern counterparts to stop speaking Russian and shift to Ukrainian instead. The Easterners don't want to do that, as Ukrianian is useless in the East. If there is no autonomy, then the Westerners can enforce the ban on Russian language.
that is not true, they don't like each other but as you said they do have some sort of autonomy which makes them happy but why couldn't the same be done in Ukraine?
Russia has proposed federalisation of Ukraine as the only viable option for its survival, but does not get support from the West.
the question is when did the Russians inhabit those areas, if they came in the USSR there is no right to make them federalise
that is not true, they don't like each other but as you said they do have some sort of autonomy which makes them happy but why couldn't the same be done in Ukraine?
Russia has proposed federalisation of Ukraine as the only viable option for its survival, but does not get support from the West.
how did Switzerland survive?
In Switzerland, the different ethnic groups (4 of them: Germans, French, Italians and the Mountain-men) don't hate each other. Also, there is a lot of federalism there, with each Canton having the autonomy to decide on its internal matters.
that is not true, they don't like each other but as you said they do have some sort of autonomy which makes them happy but why couldn't the same be done in Ukraine?
how did Switzerland survive?
In Switzerland, the different ethnic groups (4 of them: Germans, French, Italians and the Mountain-men) don't hate each other. Also, there is a lot of federalism there, with each Canton having the autonomy to decide on its internal matters.
If the things keep going like this ,in a few months Ukraine will disappear from the World's Map .
Ukraine was never a viable nation. You can't survive as a nation when your population is evenly divided in to two warring groups. The hatred which the Westerners and Easterners have for each other is unbelievable.
how did Switzerland survive?
No, it won't disappear anyway... In the worst case it will be rolled back to the 17th century borders.
Hmm.. and this time the Turks are not getting Crimea.
Yellow, <1654 - "Ukraine before totalitarian regime";
1654-1917 - Gifts from russian monarchs;
Blue, 1922 - Gift from Lenin;
Red, 1939-40 - Gift from Stalin;
Green, 1954 - Gift from Khrushchev.
No, it won't disappear anyway... In the worst case it will be rolled back to the 17th century borders.
Hmm.. and this time the Turks are not getting Crimea.
Things are getting from bad to worst in Ukraine!!!!
PANIC PANICPANIC SELL YOUR BITCOINS!!!! Actually, nothing strange happens here. Just a copy of Kiev events, but the sides have switched their places. Of course, maidan sponsors worry about this, because this event is able to devalue their $$$$ investment to "democracy".
If the things keep going like this ,in a few months Ukraine will disappear from the World's Map .
No, it won't disappear anyway... In the worst case it will be rolled back to the 17th century borders.Things are getting from bad to worst in Ukraine!!!!
PANIC PANICPANIC SELL YOUR BITCOINS!!!! Actually, nothing strange happens here. Just a copy of Kiev events, but the sides have switched their places. Of course, maidan sponsors worry about this, because this event is able to devalue their $$$$ investment to "democracy".
If the things keep going like this ,in a few months Ukraine will disappear from the World's Map .
No, it won't disappear anyway... In the worst case it will be rolled back to the 17th century borders.Jump to: