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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 315. (Read 734937 times)

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Grin Kazakhstan has banned the use of the orange-black ribbon on May 9. And not for nothing - this will be a key element in Moscow's provocation strategy.
What used to be a symbol of victory over fascism in 1945 has now been turned into a symbol of Kremlin fascism. It will never be the same. It is the new swastika


http://nedelya-ua.com/news/kazahstan-zapretil-nosit-georgievskie-lenty-na-den-pobedy

Reading through the comments it shows just how any decision is  splitting people apart . Banning something will just make that thing more interesting for people opposing the government that took that decision.

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ДCCeгoдня 06:18
Лoжь, нe пoдкpeплённaя фaктaми. B Кaзaxcтaнe Гeopгиeвcкaя лeнтoчкa ocтaётcя cимвoлoм пoбeды нaд фaшизмoм. Зaтo ecть мнeниe, чтo зaпaднaя Укpaинa - oплoт coвpeмeннoгo фaшизмa. Tвapи нeблaгoдapныe..

"Lie, not supported by facts," says one commentator.
Looks like that post came without any official backing from Kazakhstan. I am considering it a provocation from Ukrainian neo-nazis until further info is supplied.
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Grin Kazakhstan has banned the use of the orange-black ribbon on May 9. And not for nothing - this will be a key element in Moscow's provocation strategy.
What used to be a symbol of victory over fascism in 1945 has now been turned into a symbol of Kremlin fascism. It will never be the same. It is the new swastika


http://nedelya-ua.com/news/kazahstan-zapretil-nosit-georgievskie-lenty-na-den-pobedy

Reading through the comments it shows just how any decision is  splitting people apart . Banning something will just make that thing more interesting for people opposing the government that took that decision.

Pagan is on my ignore list, so I didn't noticed his post. That said, there are no problems at the moment in Kazakhstan. The Russian language is an official language there and the ethnic Russians themselves don't face any discrimination from the government.
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About colorado ribbons - fun, but probably fake, no official source.
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in defi we trust
Grin Kazakhstan has banned the use of the orange-black ribbon on May 9. And not for nothing - this will be a key element in Moscow's provocation strategy.
What used to be a symbol of victory over fascism in 1945 has now been turned into a symbol of Kremlin fascism. It will never be the same. It is the new swastika


http://nedelya-ua.com/news/kazahstan-zapretil-nosit-georgievskie-lenty-na-den-pobedy

Reading through the comments it shows just how any decision is  splitting people apart . Banning something will just make that thing more interesting for people opposing the government that took that decision.
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 Grin Kazakhstan has banned the use of the orange-black ribbon on May 9. And not for nothing - this will be a key element in Moscow's provocation strategy.
What used to be a symbol of victory over fascism in 1945 has now been turned into a symbol of Kremlin fascism. It will never be the same. It is the new swastika


http://nedelya-ua.com/news/kazahstan-zapretil-nosit-georgievskie-lenty-na-den-pobedy
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The song by Yurij Antonov - Bullfinches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP4MpX68jUo

It's the post-war song dedicated to the Nazi-blockaded Leningrad, where flocks of bullfinches on the snow is an allegory of red blood spilt.
The song is relevant to the present day events of Nazi-blockaded Slavjansk and the blood spilt in Odessa and the South-East Ukraine.
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Source: #Russia has launched an invasion of #Ukraine which it may still deny it even though Russian military trucks have entered Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vje09Pkih6Y
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Carl Bildt, Sweden Minister for Foreign Affairs, @carlbildt: Russia sometimes sounds as if it’s refighting WW2. Fascism all over the place. Enemies everywhere. Ghosts of history mobilised.
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Ukrainian Air Force bombing outskirts of Slavyansk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadQBGs_meI

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From: https://twitter.com/kp_steshin

* Ukrainian Army abandoned the Kramatorst airport. The reason is comic: The owner came, told everyone to get the hell out, and presented a damages bill. Smiley
* British press awaits Russian invasion. The expectoration from the civil war of 1918 "the Brits are shitting" gets a whole new, but relevant meaning these days.
* Airport in Donetsk stopped handling airplanes until Monday
* Cossacks arrived on the 5th to defend the South-East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi20JwfkB1c&sns=tw
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The Crimean “Occupendum” – Mustafa Jemilev was right: the decision about Crimea’s anschluss is legally fraught.

According to the report of the Presidential Council on Civil Society and Human Rights of the Russian Federation, the Crimean referendum is assessed as follows:


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• the overwhelming majority of citizens in Sevastopol have voted for joining to Russia on the referendum (50-80% of voters); in Crimea 50-60% of voters voted for joining Russia whereas the general voter turnout was only 30-50%.

• Crimea’s inhabitants have voted not so much for joining Russia, as for the termination of, as they say, “corruption and lawlessness of the thieves of the dominant Donetsk henchmen.” Inhabitants of Sevastopol particularly voted for annexation to Russia. Fears of illegal armed groups in Sevastopol were higher than in other regions of Crimea.

Consequently, the confines of the possible values of the total number of voters in Crimea who voted on the “occupendum” for joining Russia draws from 15% (30×50) to 30% (50×60).

As it’s known, according to Jemilev’s information, Crimean voter presence for the occupendum is 32.4%. In this case the number of voters who voted to join Russia comes to a bit more than 31%.

Thus:

• the majority of the voters living in Crimea (according to various estimates from 69 to 85%) haven’t voted for the Anschluss;

• the officially announced results of the occupendum that were also repeatedly and publically announced by President V. Putin have been roughly fabricated;

The decisions of the State Duma, the Federation Council and the President of the Russian Federation about joining Crimea to RF are based not only on unacceptable violations of the Ukrainian Constitution and International Law, but also on the rough fabrication of the results of the occupendum on the 16th of March against the clearly expressed will of the vast majority of residents of Ukraine and Crimea, and therefore are legally fraught.
Source: ‪#‎crimea_sos‬ 

Effectively this means that Vladimir Putin’s own Council on the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights has confirmed that the turnout for the so-called “referendum” [now called "occupendum"] on Crimea’s status was much lower than reported, and the results also far less overwhelmingly in favour of joining Russia. The same results have been reported from other sources: “while the overwhelming majority of residents of Sevastopol voted for joining Russian (turnout of 50-80%), the turnout for all of Crimea was from 30-50% and only 50-60% of those voted for joining Russia.”

Thus, a maximum 30% (i.e. 60% of 50%) of Crimeans voted to join Russia. This does not take into account any of the bribery, blackmail, bullying and multiple voting that reportedly took place.

Source: echo.msk.ru

http://maidantranslations.com/2014/05/05/the-crimean-occupendum-mustafa-jemilev-was-right-the-decision-about-crimeas-anschluss-is-legally-fraught/

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The town of Antratsyt under the control of the Lugansk self defence militia, armed with advanced weapons such as anti-aircraft missiles and RPGs. Hundreds of Cossacks among the militia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2Ux-I_EDlw

Edit: Flag of the Don Cossacks raised in Antratsyt city council buildings.

Lugansk self defence militia claim that they control a section of the border between Luhansk and Russia.
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3 killed, 10 missing after clashes between Ukraine army and pro Russia groups near village of Semyonovka.

Obama's new Ukraine - a Russophobic failed state ruled by fascists

http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2383878/obamas_new_ukraine_a_russophobic_failed_state_ruled_by_fascists.html

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The chaos, terror and civil war in Ukraine is the deliberate creation of the Washington war machine, writes Mike Whitney. It is just step one of an offensive aimed at Russia - and that should raise loud alarms among all who care about our Earth's future.

This is a very good article!

Poles should be equally worried as Russians about a failed state at their border:

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Just last week, members of this openly fascist party, commemorated "the perpetrators of the massacre of Yanova Dolina" where "600 Poles were murdered by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) in what is now Bazaltovoye. The massacre marked the beginning of ethnic cleansing in what is now western Ukraine, where tens of thousands of Poles were killed within a few months." (World Socialist Web Site)

IMF is a happy camper:

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"The International Monetary Fund warned that if Ukraine lost territory in the east it would have to redesign a $17 billion bailout of the country, probably requiring additional financing." (Ukraine attacks rebel city, helicopter shot down, Reuters)

And history repeats itself:

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"As Bismarck (said) 'We must cultivate among the Ukrainians, a people whose consciousness is altered to such an extent, that they begin to hate everything Russian.'

"Thus we are talking about a historical psy-op, an information-psychological sabotage, whose purpose is to establish Russophobic Slavs ... They are the means to separate Ukraine from Russia and to oppose Russia as a kind ... totalitarian empire.

Now, look up Janisary and see how they were cultivated (hint: captured Bulgarian boys brought up to hate their ancestry):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
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The 5 APCs and one Main Battle Tank controlled by the Donetsk People's Republic Forces have retreated to the Eastern part of Slavyansk, after a failed Right Sector offensive to destroy them.

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3 killed, 10 missing after clashes between Ukraine army and pro Russia groups near village of Semyonovka.

Obama's new Ukraine - a Russophobic failed state ruled by fascists

http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2383878/obamas_new_ukraine_a_russophobic_failed_state_ruled_by_fascists.html

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The chaos, terror and civil war in Ukraine is the deliberate creation of the Washington war machine, writes Mike Whitney. It is just step one of an offensive aimed at Russia - and that should raise loud alarms among all who care about our Earth's future.
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