Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 313. (Read 734937 times)

Both Lugansk and Donetsk are planning to conduct referendums this week. Not much trouble in Lugansk, where the People's Army appears to be in control. But in Donetsk, some of the cities are under the control of Right Sector.

And then they ran out of ammunition and got killed? Why so little deaths on the other side? What about the girls that were prepraring molotovs before the protests started?

I hope you see why your story is broken. Facts and timeline just don't add up.

CONVOYS IN COSSACK UNIFORM UNDER RUSSIAN FLAGS ARE WELCOMED TO RESCUE THE UKRAINE

http://www.ukraine-war.com/convoys-in-cossack-uniform-rescue-ukraine

offtopic.

(but interesting what shit you are smoking

in US every newborn get RFID chip implant, every US citizen enroll in obamacare get RFID chip implant next is NATO citizen and u Ukraine will get it too: RFID chip implants ... every movement, travel, online activity, purchase, transaction you do will get recorded supercomputers will see each human location at any time. Your near future! Enslavement of the world! Dont worry about bitcoins or crypto you will get credits and can spend it thru ur RFID chip implant until zero.

in Odessa all was the beginning as pro-Russian separatist opened fire on the city streets in the Ukrainian people

Just go watch this gallery of showing aftermath of latest violent clashes in Odessa, 46 people died after riots:

http://fakty.interia.pl/raport-zamieszki-na-ukrainie/galerie/zdjecie,iId,1482493,iSort,5,iTime,1,iAId,117747?parametr=embed_galeria_plaska#1482493

#Sloviansk 1.5 yrs ago - no #separatists, no joining Russia calls

That's normal, all tanks in the soviet installations originally were fully functional. Of course these machines are pretty old, but their reliability is very high.

Asked some guys, they've said that there are enough ammunition for T-12/D-44/D-48 anti-tank guns, which are compatible with this gun...

It's hard to believe that live 85 mm ammo for the main gun can be still found, though. It's a museum piece after all, incredibly well preserved, but most likely good just for the show.

Ukrainian forces attack block posts around Mariupol:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/375146

Shooting in Ukraine’s Mariupol as self-defense forces fears Kiev resumes assault
http://rt.com/news/157184-mariupol-ukraine-assault-military/

Red Cross announces about acute need for medicine in Slavjansk and Kramatorsk:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/06/n_6134085.shtml

Ukrainian presidential candidate Poroshenko announce that deadly chemicals were used during the Odessa massacre:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/06/n_6134253.shtml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARL15OfMk7Q

Yay! I knew those tanks were not just memorials.
"Use in case of emergency."

Putin’s Invasion of Eastern Ukraine: Is It Next Week or Never?

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/putin-s-invasion-of-eastern-ukraine-is-it-next-week-or-never


A Ukrainian soldier stands at a checkpoint near the town of Slaviansk in eastern Ukraine May 2, 2014. REUTERS/Baz Ratner

Ukraine’s escalated violence over the past four days is just the event that seems likely to trigger the full-scale invasion of Ukraine by the Russian ground forces massed near its eastern border. Indeed, following the Ukrainian army’s counter-attack against Russian-backed separatists around the eastern Ukrainian city of Slaviansk, and the weekend fighting in the seaport city of Odessa, Russian President Vladimir Putin is under heightened pressure of his own making to launch the invasion, note the prominent US scholar of Eurasia, Paul Goble, and Russian dissident blogger Oleg Kozyrev.
After months in which his government has blared warnings across all Russian media about the dangers of “fascists” it says have seized power and attacked Russians in Ukraine, Putin has marched into a political tupik, a “blind alley” in which he may have no good policy choices, according to Kozyrev. “If Putin does not introduce forces after all this hysteria in the media, he will have betrayed those who placed their hopes in him,” Kozyrev wrote over the weekend on the independent Russian news website Kasparov.ru.  “The disappointment of the Putinists will be strong both in the eastern portion of Ukraine and in Russia itself.”

Already before the weekend’s violence, Russia faced military pressures to invade quickly or not at all, including its schedule for mustering out its most experienced conscript soldiers. “The window of opportunity for an invasion will open during the first weeks of April and close somewhere around the middle of May,” the prominent Russian military analyst Pavel Felgengauer noted in late March. Other analysts have noted the advantage to Russia of invading before May 25 if that step seems the best way to disrupt Ukraine’s presidential election, with its potential to strengthen and legitimize the government in Kyiv.

The pro-Russian separatists of eastern Ukraine, who have declared their “Donetsk People’s Republic,” have vowed to hold a referendum Sunday (May 11) on whether to secede from Ukraine. In its armed seizure of Crimea in February, Moscow seemed to attach some value to following the legalistic niceties of a referendum and a Crimean parliamentary appeal for Russian annexation.. If it values them as much in eastern Ukraine, it will hesitate to invade before the show of the Sunday plebiscite. The window estimated earlier by Felgengauer will be soon to close, and Moscow will then have only two weeks left in which to disrupt the Ukrainian vote.

“Regardless of which choice he makes – and at least up to now it is his choice – Putin will face problems at home,” Goble wrote yesterday on his blog. “If he does not introduce troops, he will face a population whose anger he has whipped up and will have to find a new outlet for that either at home or, more likely, abroad lest that anger be turned on himself.”

If Putin does launch the invasion, “he will face another set of problems although they may not seem as immediate to the Kremlin leader,” Goble wrote. “There will be initial enthusiasm for the use of force, but as the costs both in the form of Russian casualties and from Western sanctions become clear, that will dissipate and ever more Russians will question his strategy.”

Michael McFaul, until February the US ambassador in Moscow, and former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski predicted last week that a Russian invasion likely would lead to years of urban guerrilla warfare by Ukrainians – something “very costly for Russia,” McFaul told Time.  And, Brzezinski said, a war that the Ukrainians, if supplied weapons by the West, would eventually win.

McFaul credited Putin with some realistic notion of the stakes, saying that such an invasion is “not something one does lightly. But it got a lot more likely” with the weekend violence.

James Rupert is managing editor at the Atlantic Council.

Thanks a lot! I was trying to translate using Google, but it failed. The last word (Oтeчecтвo) was familiar to me... as I remembered it from the Russian national anthem.... Hmm... it meant fatherland, not freedom.

Cлaвьcя, Oтeчecтвo нaшe cвoбoднoe

ruSSian nazis ortodox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UCW-tmB8F0&feature=youtu.be

God with us

For the Faith, Don and Fatherland

I think the first line says: "With our God" or something like that.

A Soviet-era T-34 Main Battle Tank in perfect working condition found by the Lugansk People's Army. The militia is planning to use it against the Right Sector extremists, if they cross the Lugansk borders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtCwUfFx-c

Around 20 people from the Lugansk People's Army have set a radar station in Lugansk on fire.
All the banks are now shut down in Lugansk.


Not sure... Don for freedom or something like that. Balthazar, help.

What does the flag say?