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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 369. (Read 734937 times)

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Can someone confirm geography?


This youtube publisher seems be local. Wait on comments there.
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American UAV over Dnepr river in Dnepropetrovsk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxoqJUt0gw

Can someone confirm geography?
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The guys are saying that the only want a federation type of state, just like in Germany (or Austria or Switzerland or US), but get stamped by Kiev as separatists and terrorists. They further tell the history the local Cossack regiment that they are descendants of.
And they are angered that Right Sector only has to say a word, and new laws are enacted, pardoning Right Sector Maidaners, releasing prisoners, etc...
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I remember very close, how to begin Kosovo "liberation". Albanian Terrorists shoot at Serbian state police twice, and on bigger forces they declared for press, that they are under Serbian pressure.

Shit, that secret services/terrorist groups and politics can do is big.

Any sort of provocation can be made.

"Western" press, radio and TV transmit disinformation.
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Hmmm...

Kiev prepares ‘armed provocations’ to discredit pro-federation forces, Russia
http://rt.com/news/provocation-kiev-federation-ukraine-296/

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“According to our information, in eastern regions of Ukraine provocations are being planned near the border in order to discredit the military personnel of the Russian Federation,” Vitaly Zakharchenko said in Rostov on Don during a press conference with ousted President Victor Yanukovich.

OSCE monitors visit Slavyansk, expected to submit report
http://rt.com/news/osce-ukraine-protests-report-284/

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Blazkowicz Inc. 13.04.2014 21:36

Consider that these observers might be there to just report to the Kiev authorities details about the uprising so they can attack the protesters from superior positions. Legitimate spies so to speak.
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In other news:

Hard to understand, but man with assault rifle can be attacker. Some "Kiev secret service" operation going bad.
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I wonder how long before Putin invokes the special decree and orders Russian troops to march into Ukraine.

At this moment local activists reduced danger of neo nazi pogrom.
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I wonder how long before Putin invokes the special decree and orders Russian troops to march into Ukraine. After all NATO invaded Kosovo on much shakier pretexts. And here Russian troops would be greeted as liberators.

I think Putin will wait - with the rate Ukrainian forces "defect" to the side of the people, there soon won't be much left of Ukrainian army, so the people of Ukraine might stand a chance of resolving the problem internally (at substantial human life costs).

Nalivajchenko from SBU says the special operation against people of Donetsk will start at night on the 14th of April.

http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/13/n_6080485.shtml

I am reminded of another dawn, at 4:30, on the 22nd of June 1941. Seems Nazis like dawns...
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Oleksandr Turchynov just announced that he will use the army to retake Donetsk and other rebel provinces. Ukraine sliding towards another civil war, with unrest spreading to Zaporizhia and Odessa.
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Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs demands the "Maidan proteges" who toppled the legitimate president of the country to stop the war on people and follow the agreement signed on the 21st of February, and witnessed by the Western supporters of these proteges, as well as USA should bring under control their puppets and force them to distance themselves from the neo-Nazis. The possibility to avoid Civil war depends now solely on the West:

http://itar-tass.com/politika/1118032?utm_medium=rss20

Ukrainian reserve battalion, counting 350 reserve fighters, of the National Guard moved out Eastwards:
http://www.bfm.ru/news/254341?doctype=news
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Updates:

Clashes between pro-EU and pro-Russian groups in Zaporyzhia.
Fierce battle in Slavyansk. Right Sector terrorists also involved.
Unidentified number of pro-Russians killed in Slavyansk.
Reports of Ukrainian soldiers defecting near Slavyansk.
Policemen in Odessa marching around with St. George ribbons on their hands.
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Who killed him? Right sector, or the pro-Russians?

This man (with Kalashnikov in hands) was killed many hours before (Vesti.ru precise, that was a innocent fisherman), another alive man was found in car, he told, that was kidnapped on motorway (maybe lie).
Killed was maybe a eyewitness of something or propaganda trick of special forces from Kiev.

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12:51 Корреспондент Life News Сергей Голяндин в прямом в эфире: "Стрельба, произошедшая в пяти километрах от Славянска, — это провокация. Там находились украинские военные, и активисты, готовившиеся оборонятся. На место подъехал «Рено» белого цвета, из него вышли три четыре человека и открыли огонь по активистам, на автоматах были глушители. Один из активистов был ранен. Украинские военнослужащие в момент стрельбы выехали на бтр к трассе, но стрелявшие убежали в лес. Там военные нашли труп, но он был холодный, то есть он не погиб здесь, а его привезли сюда специально. Стрелявшие пока не задержаны"

Shooting 5 kilometres from Slavjansk was a provocation. There were both Ukrainian army and protesters preparing for defence there. A white Renault arrived and three people wish silenced machine guns exited, opening fire against the activists. One activist was wounded. Ukrainian troopers drove the APC to the scene of shooting, but the gunmen ran by that time to the woods. There the military found a cold body of a man, who didn't die there, but was dumped there as part of the provocation.


In other news:

Avakov vowed to take Slavjansk before the day is over or to shoot himself. All available forces are thrown against that city.
http://politobzor.net/show-17605-avakov-poklyalsya-do-2400-vzyat-slavyansk-ili-zastrelitsya.html
People in the South-East are cheering his courage and urge him to start preparing his gun.

There are further confirmations that CIA's Brennan indeed visited Ukraine incognito and had meetings with leaders of special ops, before the suppression operation in South-East was announced:
http://ria.ru/world/20140413/1003732800.html
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