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hero member
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March 17, 2018, 09:12:50 AM
#34
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!
Shady casino always do this , they do allows you to play as long as they think it's cost nothing but profit for them even though you did broke their terms. But once you win big they'll try everything to prevent you have the money that actually you've won there. I'd say it's only miracle could help you out to get the fair result , to get a win win solution , bitstarz aren't a good place to put your money in to play , some of my colleague did feel scammed with them several years ago due this terms game. Let it go provabvyfair0 , they would do nothing but ignore you.
I have seen this casino do this to many other players who go to their casino in the past.
They claim they have multiple logins and accuse them of cheating them from bonuses given to those account or accounts in question.
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March 17, 2018, 08:47:57 AM
#33
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!

Hi there,

So, it's not just one account you have extra, but at least two accounts extra, and we can link multiple other accounts to your account. It's hard sometimes
for a casino to put all the fraudulent details out there of an account, because we still have to protect the identity of the player. However, here are some
details which we can share without putting your identity in jeopardy.

We have 3 accounts in your name. Emails follow the same pattern and on the account, it's your name. These 3 accounts has been opened in less
than 10 days, so it's not the case of you forgetting you had an account with us and got a new one. You have deposits on one of the other accounts
which was created 8 days ago.

Further details here also include you trying to deposit using a foreign card in another persons name on your account, which also breaches another
term in the casino, and that one of your email addresses is related to another fraud thread here on Bitcointalk. With the consent of the OP, I'd be happy
to share a link to that thread.

I understand that there's a bit of skepticism from a lot of people in the forum, because there's been quite a few scam accusations against us. With that
being said. Pick any online casino out there and google the name followed by the word scam, and you'll see it's not just us. There's just two conclusions to be drawn here, either we're all a bunch of scammers, or not everything that is written online is true. I don't claim to be right every time, as we have indeed
corrected ourselves when we've messed up in the past, and I think if you have messed up, you should make it right.

I think there are two sides to every story here, and if we all are objective and coming with rational arguments both ways here, we can have a productive discussion.

Olle, BitStarz

You are a Bitcoin Gambling Site, your argument on proving that he is using multiple accounts and also linking his card seems to be not right. Yes it is money but your are a Bitcoin gambling site players who are betting in your site wants to remain anonymous and they don't want to be process like any normal gambling site. Closing his account now which he have won big seems to be not right as you are not letting him have the money he won.  You must know that he has the right to his money and having multiple accounts does not prove that he have cheated on winning big on one of them.
Been reading up and this is really a shady act which a certain casino do make alibis or creating problems which the main issue here is on his big winnings.If a player do lose up the casino have no complaints on it and no such actions been made but if someone do able to make some big wins then they do start to make issues which isnt really right at all. Having multiple accounts doesnt really make sense at all as long he did able to win legally with those accounts theres no right to hold on.
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March 17, 2018, 03:14:57 AM
#32
be cautious guys with your money  Angry
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March 17, 2018, 12:38:40 AM
#31
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!

Hi there,

So, it's not just one account you have extra, but at least two accounts extra, and we can link multiple other accounts to your account. It's hard sometimes
for a casino to put all the fraudulent details out there of an account, because we still have to protect the identity of the player. However, here are some
details which we can share without putting your identity in jeopardy.

We have 3 accounts in your name. Emails follow the same pattern and on the account, it's your name. These 3 accounts has been opened in less
than 10 days, so it's not the case of you forgetting you had an account with us and got a new one. You have deposits on one of the other accounts
which was created 8 days ago.

Further details here also include you trying to deposit using a foreign card in another persons name on your account, which also breaches another
term in the casino, and that one of your email addresses is related to another fraud thread here on Bitcointalk. With the consent of the OP, I'd be happy
to share a link to that thread.

I understand that there's a bit of skepticism from a lot of people in the forum, because there's been quite a few scam accusations against us. With that
being said. Pick any online casino out there and google the name followed by the word scam, and you'll see it's not just us. There's just two conclusions to be drawn here, either we're all a bunch of scammers, or not everything that is written online is true. I don't claim to be right every time, as we have indeed
corrected ourselves when we've messed up in the past, and I think if you have messed up, you should make it right.

I think there are two sides to every story here, and if we all are objective and coming with rational arguments both ways here, we can have a productive discussion.

Olle, BitStarz

You are a Bitcoin Gambling Site, your argument on proving that he is using multiple accounts and also linking his card seems to be not right. Yes it is money but your are a Bitcoin gambling site players who are betting in your site wants to remain anonymous and they don't want to be process like any normal gambling site. Closing his account now which he have won big seems to be not right as you are not letting him have the money he won.  You must know that he has the right to his money and having multiple accounts does not prove that he have cheated on winning big on one of them.
newbie
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March 16, 2018, 11:11:48 PM
#30
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!



Sasha
The hero of online support
Sasha
Hello! How can I help you?
Sergei Muratov
Hello. No decision on the withdrawal?
Sasha
Unfortunately, we have not received a reply from the payment system yet.
I can suggest you try the option with the qiwi-purse that we offered earlier
Sergei Muratov
For verification how much do you need?
Sasha
The minimum deposit is 20 EUR
Sergei Muratov
Why is there minimum 5 on the site?
This is where the payment method Read
Sasha
Oh, yes, that's right. Mistakenly called you the minimum amount of payment.
I'm sorry for the mistake.




It's ridiculous is our correspondence, the second day.
I'm already offered to make bets the payment will be or not?



If for 20 with 100 people
newbie
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March 16, 2018, 11:10:34 PM
#29
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!



Sasha
The hero of online support
Sasha
Hello! How can I help you?
Sergei Muratov
Hello. No decision on the withdrawal?
Sasha
Unfortunately, we have not received a reply from the payment system yet.
I can suggest you try the option with the qiwi-purse that we offered earlier
Sergei Muratov
For verification how much do you need?
Sasha
The minimum deposit is 20 EUR
Sergei Muratov
Why is there minimum 5 on the site?
This is where the payment method Read
Sasha
Oh, yes, that's right. Mistakenly called you the minimum amount of payment.
I'm sorry for the mistake.




It's ridiculous is our correspondence, the second day.
I'm already offered to make bets the payment will be or not?
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
March 16, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
#28
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!
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Not what loyalty to the players, problems with the conclusions.
20 euros can not return to the card, all some problems.
did the tests of the casino, we recommend that you spend time reading the rules, and then register and make a deposit.
There are many underwater rocks.
newbie
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March 16, 2018, 10:03:45 PM
#27
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!

Hi there,

So, it's not just one account you have extra, but at least two accounts extra, and we can link multiple other accounts to your account. It's hard sometimes
for a casino to put all the fraudulent details out there of an account, because we still have to protect the identity of the player. However, here are some
details which we can share without putting your identity in jeopardy.

We have 3 accounts in your name. Emails follow the same pattern and on the account, it's your name. These 3 accounts has been opened in less
than 10 days, so it's not the case of you forgetting you had an account with us and got a new one. You have deposits on one of the other accounts
which was created 8 days ago.

Further details here also include you trying to deposit using a foreign card in another persons name on your account, which also breaches another
term in the casino, and that one of your email addresses is related to another fraud thread here on Bitcointalk. With the consent of the OP, I'd be happy
to share a link to that thread.

I understand that there's a bit of skepticism from a lot of people in the forum, because there's been quite a few scam accusations against us. With that
being said. Pick any online casino out there and google the name followed by the word scam, and you'll see it's not just us. There's just two conclusions to be drawn here, either we're all a bunch of scammers, or not everything that is written online is true. I don't claim to be right every time, as we have indeed
corrected ourselves when we've messed up in the past, and I think if you have messed up, you should make it right.

I think there are two sides to every story here, and if we all are objective and coming with rational arguments both ways here, we can have a productive discussion.

Olle, BitStarz


There are a lot of negative reviews. I myself convinced myself that something is wrong, We have many computers, one PI people come to register and play, I tried, I won with the bonus of 100 euros. Since they have stolen from 1 ip 1 account, the winnings were canceled. But before that they asked us to verify the card, by crediting 20 euros, why is it necessary? If the winnings are canceled, the account
legendary
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March 13, 2018, 09:44:59 AM
#26
So after winning big amounts on Bitstarz and sending in all required documents they asked for they later decides to close my account because they claim I have multiple accounts on there site, one week earlier I asked for closure of my previous account because I input name wrong in my account and I am familliar with terms in casinos, butwith no response from there support, after winning big amount they decide to close my account for no reason. DONT DEPOSIT ON BITSTARZ!!
Shady casino always do this , they do allows you to play as long as they think it's cost nothing but profit for them even though you did broke their terms. But once you win big they'll try everything to prevent you have the money that actually you've won there. I'd say it's only miracle could help you out to get the fair result , to get a win win solution , bitstarz aren't a good place to put your money in to play , some of my colleague did feel scammed with them several years ago due this terms game. Let it go provabvyfair0 , they would do nothing but ignore you.
jr. member
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March 13, 2018, 09:28:48 AM
#25
unsolved
hero member
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March 12, 2018, 07:03:00 PM
#24
How much did you win?

You can report your case using Report Issue.

You can read in the comment section here Curacao licensing scam operators how Marg lost 250000 AUD within a few months, even though her account was already closed for excessive gambling.

This person is a scammer and those hyperlinks are deceptively leading to his own site, not anywhere on this forum.
Where exactly did I claim these are links to this forum?

Have you already opened a scam accusation on this forum? If not, why not?
jr. member
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March 12, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
#23
Did he somehow gain an unfair edge?  If not, just pay him.  If so, explain.
No they won't pay him because apparently he violated one of their terms which are a subject to the judicial system they're associated with ! Don't you think we have came too far off the usual drama casino's do when it comes to paying someone their own money ? The fact is,all the rules and regulations apply only for the money that is being sent from the casino and not deposited.

I mean it's possible that the guy somehow cheated to get his account in the positive or deposited with stolen cc or something?...but obviously if he never requested a cashout bitstarz would not have any problem processing as many deposits as possible.



Exactly my point my friend, as long as you deposit and lose the casino has no problem with you.
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March 12, 2018, 02:53:04 PM
#22
Did he somehow gain an unfair edge?  If not, just pay him.  If so, explain.
No they won't pay him because apparently he violated one of their terms which are a subject to the judicial system they're associated with ! Don't you think we have came too far off the usual drama casino's do when it comes to paying someone their own money ? The fact is,all the rules and regulations apply only for the money that is being sent from the casino and not deposited.

I mean it's possible that the guy somehow cheated to get his account in the positive or deposited with stolen cc or something?...but obviously if he never requested a cashout bitstarz would not have any problem processing as many deposits as possible.

legendary
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March 12, 2018, 02:47:43 PM
#21
Did he somehow gain an unfair edge?  If not, just pay him.  If so, explain.
No they won't pay him because apparently he violated one of their terms which are a subject to the judicial system they're associated with ! Don't you think we have came too far off the usual drama casino's do when it comes to paying someone their own money ? The fact is,all the rules and regulations apply only for the money that is being sent from the casino and not deposited.
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March 12, 2018, 02:42:49 PM
#20

All deposits have been made through my card ending with 7041, and I don't know if my IP has been used by some third-party for shady activity which I have no idea what you are talking about, this is a public forum which I'd like to keep my information private.

Right, so here are the facts.

You have 3 accounts that follow the same pattern of email (and both other accounts are linked via browser activity and IP). You know your own email address,
and the email comes with a number at the end. Use your email and then go 101 instead of 100 at the end and there you have it. Try to google that. That's your third account if you weren't aware.

Let's break it down for simplicity:

Account 1 (Created March 10th): Multiple card transactions with the card ending in 7041
Account 2 (Created March 3rd): 3 failed attempts with the card ending in 7041 as well as third party foreign card ending in 8592
Account 3 (Created March 4th): Successful Trustly deposit

Given that these accounts are created so closely together, they're all in your name, they have been used in your browser, share the same IP, it's
quite clear to me that you are the owner of all the accounts, which breaches the most fundamental rule of any online casino, which states you can't
have multiple accounts.



I asked support to close both of those accounts with no reply from your support, and the second account had no successful deposits, I contacted your support on March 6th before creating a brand new account, I deny trying to use any card ending in 8592.

As stated in your ToS:
If a new account is opened, the old account will be closed. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access. Which i did on March 6th before creating a new account.

So NOW suddenly you agree that you have 3 accounts? You're digging a hole here man, but happy you confessed. And you deny using a card ending in 8592?
Well here it is, on your account, with your other card on display as well. https://ibb.co/muexnn

We're gonna rest our case here.


Did he somehow gain an unfair edge?  If not, just pay him.  If so, explain.
legendary
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March 12, 2018, 02:24:51 PM
#19
So NOW suddenly you agree that you have 3 accounts? You're digging a hole here man, but happy you confessed. And you deny using a card ending in 8592?
Well here it is, on your account, with your other card on display as well. https://ibb.co/muexnn

We're gonna rest our case here.

I wonder if this conversation could have happened on a more personal chat ? It is totally not okay for a casino to leak the private data of a client on a public forum.Whatever may be the case,isn't it termination of a consumer's private policies when an authorised service  chooses to conduct a data breach without their consent ?

I don't know about the other dude but if it was me,I'd take invasion of my private policies quite seriously.
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March 12, 2018, 02:07:05 PM
#18
How much did you win?

You can report your case using Report Issue.

You can read in the comment section here Curacao licensing scam operators how Marg lost 250000 AUD within a few months, even though her account was already closed for excessive gambling.

This person is a scammer and those hyperlinks are deceptively leading to his own site, not anywhere on this forum.
jr. member
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March 12, 2018, 10:02:20 AM
#17

All deposits have been made through my card ending with 7041, and I don't know if my IP has been used by some third-party for shady activity which I have no idea what you are talking about, this is a public forum which I'd like to keep my information private.

Right, so here are the facts.

You have 3 accounts that follow the same pattern of email (and both other accounts are linked via browser activity and IP). You know your own email address,
and the email comes with a number at the end. Use your email and then go 101 instead of 100 at the end and there you have it. Try to google that. That's your third account if you weren't aware.

Let's break it down for simplicity:

Account 1 (Created March 10th): Multiple card transactions with the card ending in 7041
Account 2 (Created March 3rd): 3 failed attempts with the card ending in 7041 as well as third party foreign card ending in 8592
Account 3 (Created March 4th): Successful Trustly deposit

Given that these accounts are created so closely together, they're all in your name, they have been used in your browser, share the same IP, it's
quite clear to me that you are the owner of all the accounts, which breaches the most fundamental rule of any online casino, which states you can't
have multiple accounts.



I asked support to close both of those accounts with no reply from your support, and the second account had no successful deposits, I contacted your support on March 6th before creating a brand new account, I deny trying to use any card ending in 8592.

As stated in your ToS:
If a new account is opened, the old account will be closed. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access. Which i did on March 6th before creating a new account.

So NOW suddenly you agree that you have 3 accounts? You're digging a hole here man, but happy you confessed. And you deny using a card ending in 8592?
Well here it is, on your account, with your other card on display as well. https://ibb.co/muexnn

We're gonna rest our case here.


I agreed having 2 accounts which I've USED for deposit, this third account was never used for deposit and i never played in your casino with it, this doesn't change the fact that I have contacted you on March 6th regarding the closure of these accounts.

I can see the photo, that I deposit 18:45 PM with my card, then there is timelapse to 20:28 and 22:31 which I deny being on my account at this period of time, keep making up excuses not to pay me.
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March 12, 2018, 09:58:01 AM
#16

All deposits have been made through my card ending with 7041, and I don't know if my IP has been used by some third-party for shady activity which I have no idea what you are talking about, this is a public forum which I'd like to keep my information private.

Right, so here are the facts.

You have 3 accounts that follow the same pattern of email (and both other accounts are linked via browser activity and IP). You know your own email address,
and the email comes with a number at the end. Use your email and then go 101 instead of 100 at the end and there you have it. Try to google that. That's your third account if you weren't aware.

Let's break it down for simplicity:

Account 1 (Created March 10th): Multiple card transactions with the card ending in 7041
Account 2 (Created March 3rd): 3 failed attempts with the card ending in 7041 as well as third party foreign card ending in 8592
Account 3 (Created March 4th): Successful Trustly deposit

Given that these accounts are created so closely together, they're all in your name, they have been used in your browser, share the same IP, it's
quite clear to me that you are the owner of all the accounts, which breaches the most fundamental rule of any online casino, which states you can't
have multiple accounts.



I asked support to close both of those accounts with no reply from your support, and the second account had no successful deposits, I contacted your support on March 6th before creating a brand new account, I deny trying to use any card ending in 8592.

As stated in your ToS:
If a new account is opened, the old account will be closed. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access. Which i did on March 6th before creating a new account.

So NOW suddenly you agree that you have 3 accounts? You're digging a hole here man, but happy you confessed. And you deny using a card ending in 8592?
Well here it is, on your account, with your other card on display as well. https://ibb.co/muexnn

We're gonna rest our case here.
jr. member
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March 12, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
#15
This explains everything about Bitstarz and your casino


https://gyazo.com/8fcaccbe94d4e0f1556e3b0292fa965f.png




So long you don't payed me this ticket will be open and running.
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