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Topic: Don't lose your head! Full-body transplants will be possible within two years - page 3. (Read 4013 times)

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A Chinese surgeon has been surgically transplanting the heads of mice and performed 1,000 head transplants. He is moving up the food chain, and now he wants to perform head transplants on monkeys (that can live "at least for a little while"). Humans are next.

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So now the multimillion people, besides having money will be immortal now? !! ... We'll see the persons selling their bodies on the streets.. lel Grin

This has been discussed earlier in the thread. There are a number of well-known people from the wealthy elite (headed by David, pardon the pun) who might at least consider financing such an operation if asked.
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So now the multimillion people, besides having money will be immortal now? !! ... We'll see the persons selling their bodies on the streets.. lel Grin
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This is totally insane if possible, personality would change dramatically i should imagine, much of the body does some of the thinking (sayings like trust your gut came around for a reason).  

I'm not so sure about that - how much thinking do you do with your hands? Wink

Or really, your heart, kidneys, or anything else people can already replace?





Probably a hype job to boost stocks related to that Dr/someone related to him. I totally do not buy this crap.

Well, they apparently need to come up with the $11 million for the whole procedure first, but assuming funding isn't an issue, the operation itself may end up being performed as early as next year (going by the article tee-rex posted above) - so, I guess we'll know for sure soon enough.
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Full-body transplants will be possible within two years, says controversial surgeon Sergio Canavero

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The world’s first full-body transplant – in which someone’s head would be sewn onto a donor body – could take place in just two years, according to a controversial surgeon.
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Mr Canavero said: “I think we are now at a point when the technical aspects are all feasible. If society doesn't want it, I won't do it. But if people don't want it in the US or Europe, that doesn't mean it won't be done somewhere else. I'm trying to go about this the right way, but before going to the moon, you want to make sure people will follow you

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Soon we will see 'rich wise heads on young shoulders'. Now the Western oligarchs will finally find some use for the younger poor and disadvantaged (So long as they have a healthy body)

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This is totally insane if possible, personality would change dramatically i should imagine, much of the body does some of the thinking (sayings like trust your gut came around for a reason).   
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Probably a hype job to boost stocks related to that Dr/someone related to him. I totally do not buy this crap.
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First human head-to-body transplant: Russian man to undergo revolutionary surgery

Doctors seem to be a step closer to performing a breakthrough surgery: transplanting a human head onto another body - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/4gj71n

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjqXOzJr_E
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Breaking news! The terminally ill man set to be first to undergo the world's first full head transplant pioneered by Dr. Sergio Canavero:

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A man with a fatal medical condition says he is ready to put his trust in controversial surgeon Dr Sergio Canavero who claims he can cut off his head and attach it to a healthy body. Mr Spiridonov, 30, a computer scientist from Russia, said: 'My decision is final and I do not plan to change my mind.' As a lifelong sufferer of the rare genetic Werdnig-Hoffman muscle wasting disease, he says he wants the chance of a new body before he dies
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It is now obvious that some people are taking this advice, to not lose your head because full body transplants are available.

From the thread Zombies apocalypse is coming:








Can anybody explain this dog?

Either Halloween or Photoshop.    Cheesy

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lol.... this will be interesting. For example, imagine if a billionaire is kidnapped by some con-men and his body is completely transplanted. All of his assets would now be under the control of the guy who has transplanted in to his body.

Without the billionaire's authentic head, his body won't be... hmm, sui juris, so to speak, i.e. won't have the capacity to manage its own affairs.
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lol.... this will be interesting. For example, imagine if a billionaire is kidnapped by some con-men and his body is completely transplanted. All of his assets would now be under the control of the guy who has transplanted in to his body.
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I did some looking into things like this. I'm not as optimistic. Things like this have a lot of speculation associated with them, and it's not uncommon for a topic like this to be expected soon. For it to be operational in two years, very unlikely in my opinion. The technology is there, but I doubt we could execute something like this.

You're just being too pessimistic.

Where I see greater potential, and this appears to be research in the right direction, is cybernetic bodies with organic brains as a means of life extension, or cloning a fresh body and implanting your brain into it. Both are rather futuristic, but the one prediction you can make with certainty regarding new technologies is that you can't accurately predict a timeline. The prerequisites for an assembler already exist, based on the Drexler's "the Engines of Creation", but so far nobody has done it. Unless in secret..

This seems to be overly futuristic. Regarding synthetic bodies with organic brains, to date, we can only make an artificial heart, which costs around 200k euro at the moment and the recipient of which has to carry a portable power source with him. But the heart is just a muscle.
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I did some looking into things like this. I'm not as optimistic. Things like this have a lot of speculation associated with them, and it's not uncommon for a topic like this to be expected soon. For it to be operational in two years, very unlikely in my opinion. The technology is there, but I doubt we could execute something like this.
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This is interesting. How do they join two spinal cords?

good question.  we can't repair spinal cord damage yet but in two years they claim to fully transplant a head and reconnect all those nerves?  i think not.  also.. where do you get a donor body.?

I think it'll be a lot  longer than two years before this happens if ever. I saw that they tried this experiment years ago on a monkey but it only survived a few hours. There's a documentary on vice. Could be bullshit though but it seemed real. I'm not sure if I'd want somebody elses body if I was crippled. Some things just arent meant to be fixed once broken.

That monkey had lived for 11 days, if I'm not mistaken. It died because of the complications from the immune system response (and they didn't attach the spinal cords, by the way). These problems are largely overcome by now through the use of immunosuppressants (and will be completely eliminated by gene therapy in the future). Suffice it to say, that about 3,500 heart transplants are performed annually worldwide.
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I'm quite skeptical about the viability of this transplant, and even if it can be done, in case of rejection I guess the head is the one being rejected. Cheesy
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This might promote organ or body kidnapping. But I doubt this will ever be a reality. Why would you want to lose your body for someone elses.

Organ theft from prisoners of war or just kidnapped people is already there. Should we then ban organ transplantion at all, and how this ban would stop what is already declared illegal and being chased after?
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In the context of this thread, I want to commemorate the great Soviet-Russian scientist, the founding father of transplantation, Vladimir Petrovich Demnihov.

Among his other experiments, were transplantations of dogs' heads in 1954, where the donor and recipient lived on one body after the operation.

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This is interesting. How do they join two spinal cords?

good question.  we can't repair spinal cord damage yet but in two years they claim to fully transplant a head and reconnect all those nerves?  i think not.  also.. where do you get a donor body.?

I think it'll be a lot  longer than two years before this happens if ever. I saw that they tried this experiment years ago on a monkey but it only survived a few hours. There's a documentary on vice. Could be bullshit though but it seemed real. I'm not sure if I'd want somebody elses body if I was crippled. Some things just arent meant to be fixed once broken.

There are far more sophisticated and frankly ethical ways of doing it to begin with like growing skin cells or cybernetics which are actually being proven to work than this crazy necromancy so it seems like this is just tryig to re-invent the wheel in a really fucked up way.
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This is interesting. How do they join two spinal cords?

good question.  we can't repair spinal cord damage yet but in two years they claim to fully transplant a head and reconnect all those nerves?  i think not.  also.. where do you get a donor body.?

I think it'll be a lot  longer than two years before this happens if ever. I saw that they tried this experiment years ago on a monkey but it only survived a few hours. There's a documentary on vice. Could be bullshit though but it seemed real. I'm not sure if I'd want somebody elses body if I was crippled. Some things just arent meant to be fixed once broken.
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Full-body transplants will be possible within two years, says controversial surgeon Sergio Canavero

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The world’s first full-body transplant – in which someone’s head would be sewn onto a donor body – could take place in just two years, according to a controversial surgeon.
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Mr Canavero said: “I think we are now at a point when the technical aspects are all feasible. If society doesn't want it, I won't do it. But if people don't want it in the US or Europe, that doesn't mean it won't be done somewhere else. I'm trying to go about this the right way, but before going to the moon, you want to make sure people will follow you

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Soon we will see 'rich wise heads on young shoulders'. Now the Western oligarchs will finally find some use for the younger poor and disadvantaged (So long as they have a healthy body)

What do you guys think?



Obvious scam. This is like a pump and dump. They hype up a supossedly revolutionary thing, then it turns out a scam. Don't buy on this.
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