Topic: Don't Stand With Either Palestine Or Israel - page 2. (Read 469 times)

UN is a sham.
It's quite shocking to see Israel didn't bother to ask for the return of the kidnapped people but they just dropped huge bombs on Palestine. Sure their missiles also killed the non-Hamas men. Normally, a negotiator will first respond but they went ahead launching missiles. It sends a message that this is an eye for an eye which makes the whole world blind.  

But this war didnot start last Saturday morning when Hamas attacked, this war started a long time ago with a conflict. Just like the conflict between Iran and Saudi that started a thousand years ago but just recently made a peace deal.

I quite understand you. In as much as I wouldn't want to take side, I think what we need to actually bring solution to this menace is justice. If the United Nations can be neutral in solving the lingering issues surrounding this continuous conflicts, I believe justice will be served and each side will maintain their lane.

One of the two side is openly racist and received billions from occidental countries to do these terrible things.

People in Gaza are starving, we made them vote ? This is ridiculous.

I wouldn't compare this conflict with war between Russia and Ukraine. It's much more complicated and have deeper historical background. Both sides have done terrible things and war that we have now was inevitable. And I don't see someone who would be right in this conflict.
Israel and their actions is probably responsible for creation of Hamas. And in all these years whole Gaza was built on hate towards Israel. On the other hand, people in Gaza selected Hamas terrorist to be their legitimate representatives.

I agree the situation is dire and blood may continue to be spillled, sadly. But just because we do not see a peaceful solution to this conflict, does not mean we are supposed to give up on peace for both sides.

It is obvious that there are some factions in Israel which seek to occupy and possibly annex Gaza for themselves, but Hamas is doing nothing to help Palestine to reach a peaceful outcome to get their territory recognized, have access to food, medicine and water. There are violations of the international laws being committed by both sides and yet, some people seem not to even care for the civilians who are just collateral damage for the leaders of Hamas and the Israel government.

If they read your post they'd laugh at you.

Imagine that someone enters your home and starts stealing from you. You ask them to leave, they don't do it. You hit them, they hit back.
Your neighbor sees you fighting and starts preaching to you both "you should love each other brothers, there should be no fighting." Would you both stop? I doubt it.

Ukrainians lost families and friends to Russians. They won't start loving Russian all of a sudden.
Palestinians lived every day knowing that Israelis have superior military power and will one day kill them all. They won't stop until there's no Gaza. It may take another decade or another century but the goal for Israel is to exterminate Hamas and make Gaza a part of their country.

I totally agree with everything you’ve said. Unfortunately this is the main topic of conversation in the developed world at the moment. Something needs to be done to broker peace ASAP. Too many innocent people are losing their lives on both sides. Leaders need to sit down & stop this ASAP.

I support the idea of peace prevailing between the two countries, but I can't begin to preach for it now in countries who don't want to hear it. The two nations are engaged in a long-running dispute and requesting that it end would be difficult given the loss of life, destruction of property, and other harm it has caused.

So let's allow them to dig it out with one another in this war so that the next time, the other country would learn on how not to attack first and seek for lasting peace. It is not today that people around the globe have been seeking for peace to happen between the people for Israel and Palestine. They choose not to be at peace with one another. They prefer to address themselves as enemies for lives.

I want peace too, billions of people in whole world want peace, but it doesn't really matter what we want. In whole history of humanity, almost whole time there was wars or bigger and smaller conflicts.
I'm not saying that Israel is innocent and there is no right side in this conflict. But what HAMAS did simply can't be justified. Killing innocent civilians, kidnapping women and children. I'm not even talking about what they're doing with dead people. It's difficult to call them as humans. They will pay huge price for what they did, but worst part of it that thousands of innocent people will die.

We're all for peace.

But you can see that each side are having now their support from other countries and that's not a good sign of what you're advocating. You're not alone on this one but we're barely heard by them.

One has the other countries on their back.

And the same goes for the other one.

It's all noisy and poor are those victims, the innocent citizens that are in the midst of it. They don't want this war, they don't want to get apprehend and get kidnapped.

All of them want peace but for both sides, this is what is peace to them before it's taken. There should be casualties and collaterals. 

Even if we look at the history the peace comes at a cost.

World countries who gave opinion when Russia- Ukraine war but why its not the same for Palestine - Israel?

Nobody gives you a damn unless it benefit then in some way.

I also stand for peace but how far we are going to continue preaching peace is yet to be ascertain in this war. This is a fight that started several decades ago and yet kept on after sometime. The peace talks in the UN security council just held recently has failed and both parties don't seem to have reached an agreement to stop. I see more escalation of the fight and some countries to join, at the moment Iran has been figured to be supporting Palestine even though they have not come open to show their support. Russia is already in the side of Palestine while US have been longtime friends with Israel, so this war is sort of bringing different blocs of interest in it, hope this won't begin the third world war.

Everyone wants peace, no doubt about it. However, when Hamas massacred Israelis yesterday, you can't just be shouting peace! It doesn't work. World leaders should condemn Hamas, and drag them to court. But that won't happen so Israel will counterattack Hamas with way more gun power.

Peace will come if Hamas/Palestine realizes that they already lost the war a long time ago. Time to move on without poking Bees' nest. Now is like a slap battle between a kid, and a huge muscular man. I won't be surprised if there is no Gaza after this war. It's sad, but it's the reality.

I agree with you when any war starts but here when Israel attack we don't see such question but now when Hamas attack our sympathy is increased in fact our morality The point has been lost, of course any war should be fought with soldiers, killing civilians indiscriminately is not right.The US is on Israel's side, so they will eventually take revenge for their situation, but they may be stalled in taking this revenge because now Hamas is not under Israel's control, and they have Can't control the management so what is actually happening is actually for the right of that area We never take sides in war, in fact we should not take sides in war, but when the helpless are faced with the crisis of their existence, they think of whatever they have at a furious speed, the current situation is an example of Hamas If self-defense falls within their responsibility, they should respond if they are deprived of their rights The Palestinians are forcibly occupying the holy places and not allowing them to worship. If Israel comes out of them, then the solution will be there. There is no need to take sides Leave the rights as much, or it won't end and shouldn't end.What can I say about the common people? Israel attacks and kills the common people whenever it wants It would have been different if Hamas had attacked Israel by force. In fact, Hamas defended itself.

The last thing is that the common people should sit down and discuss among themselves, but if Israel does not give them back their space or freedom or rights, there is no point in negotiating, forcing something It cannot be kept at a price, it turns out to be a snake tomorrow, this is proof that torture of civilians should be stopped.

While I kind of agree with this point of view, we also should keep in mind that for both sides, this conflict has reached a point where peace is no longer an option as long as the opposite side is still up and in arms. Rather than setting the political escenario for peace, both sides have decided to escalate this situation, resulting in the unnecessary lost of life and even kidnappings by the Hamas forces conquering parts of Israel.

I expect Israel taking control of the situation eventually and retaliate on Gaza strip even harsher. It is an never ending cycle.

Your god is different than their god. How can you be at peace with somebody that your god (who is supreme above everything) rejects for not following him(her,it)?

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Israel's "Pearl Harbor Moment"? Hundreds Dead, Horrifying Scenes Of Entire Families Killed - https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/351845-2023-10-07-israels-pearl-harbor-moment-hundreds-dead-horrifying-scenes-of-entire.htm

"The entire system failed. It's not just one component. It's the entire defense architecture that evidently failed to provide the necessary defense for Israeli civilians," he told CNN of the surprise invasion from Gaza militants. "This is a Pearl Harbor type of moment for Israel, where there was reality up until today, and then there will be reality after today."

Town-by-town and farm-by-farm fighting is still underway given Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) reportedly control swathes of southern territory and even military outposts in Israel.

Rather than being biased and supporting one side, it's better we all stand up and declare our support for peace to reign. If not for any other reason, at least for the sake of the innocent civilians (most especially women and children).

The offensive attacks between Israel and Hamas should be discouraged in all ramifications. Don't attack Palestinians in your country, don't attack Israelis in your country. Don't stand with either Israel or Palestine, but stand for PEACE.
I STAND FOR PEACE.