Topic: Double Your Money, #1 Investment Scheme, Payments Guaranteed (NOT A PONZI)!! - page 2. (Read 7032 times)
February 17, 2014, 10:07:26 AM
Due to the lack of interest and optimism I am forced to close this scheme and refund my investors. After all as you can see I am not a scammer.
February 17, 2014, 08:28:14 AM
February 17, 2014, 08:21:08 AM
bump
February 17, 2014, 07:01:41 AM
Big letters?
Are you compensating for something?
+1 Are you compensating for something?
)Hahaha!
well at least he didn't made a new account for his investment scheme!
that is a +1 for him!
February 17, 2014, 06:40:33 AM
Big letters?
Are you compensating for something?
Are you compensating for something?
February 17, 2014, 04:10:53 AM
Still working and legit!
February 16, 2014, 07:55:30 PM
February 16, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
To this point, this is such a blantant scam that anyone who still falls for that fully deserves their fate.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
I would NEVER "invest" in this scheme (if you can even call this investing.. It's more like willingly handing over your BTC) for several reasons.
First, and foremost, the OP, HereToTrade, the owner of this operation, is severely lacking in moral candor. He continually demonstrates a complete and utter lack of professionalism. His goal should be to win the respect of people, especially those who are hesitant and suspicious, through politeness, diplomacy, and tact. Instead, he chooses to harass and insult those who disagree with him. When people point out the inherent fallacies of his operation, he calls them haters, instead of acknowledging the flaws in this whole scheme.
Second, he continually comes up with a new scheme after his previous ones (which have been at least two other schemes proven to be defunct) are proven to be ineffectual. He simply doesn't know when to call it a day.
Third, it seems his one and only goal is to enrich himself through other people's money. He seems to have no desire to work and earn his own income - instead relying on others to fill his wallet by promising high returns in a system that has already been proven by myself and others to be ineffectual.
What bothers me the most, personally, is what I said in the first part regarding his complete lack of professionalism. I would never willingly hand over money to somebody who so blatantly insults so many people simply for having an opinion grounded in logic..
I also find it completely and utterly amusing that he believes this can and will last "forever" even though Fur11 and I have proven via simple math that this is defunct and ineffective.
Here's some math showing that this pyramid is unstable. I'm assuming that you are taking a third of every level (as that would be the remainder).
Person 1 sends .1. One person is out .1, for a total defecit of .1. Owner has collected 0 total.
Person 1a sends .1, person 1b sends .1, person 1c sends .1. Person 1 collects .2, owner collectes .1. Three people are out .1, for a total defecit of .3. Owner has collected .1 total.
Person 1aa sends .1, person 1ab sends .1, person 1ac sends .1, person 1ba sends .1, person 1bb sends .1, person 1bc sends .1, person 1ca sends .1, person 1cb sends .1, person 1cc sends .1. Person 1a, 1b, and 1c all collect .2. Owner collects .3. Nine people are out .1, for a total defecit of .9. Owner has collected .4 total.
So now the nine people (1aa, 1ab, 1ac, 1ba, 1bb, 1bc, 1ca, 1cb, 1cc) all have to each get three people under them. As we can see from the pattern forming, .2 goes to the person above them and .1 to the owner. After this level, there will be 27 people out a total of 2.7, with the owner having collected a total of 1.3.
On the next level, those 27 people all have to get three people under them. The total defecit after this level will be 8.1, with the owner having collected a total of 4.
As you can see, for the pyramid to progress, you need exponentially more and more people to join. The total deficit rises and rises as you'll continuously have more and more people out money. When they get paid back, you have even MORE people out money. It's unstable because there aren't an infinite amount of people with an infinite amount of money...eventually nobody else wants to contribute, and the system stops, and the nature of something like this is that when it stops, it'll always be at the maximum deficit.
Person 1 sends .1. One person is out .1, for a total defecit of .1. Owner has collected 0 total.
Person 1a sends .1, person 1b sends .1, person 1c sends .1. Person 1 collects .2, owner collectes .1. Three people are out .1, for a total defecit of .3. Owner has collected .1 total.
Person 1aa sends .1, person 1ab sends .1, person 1ac sends .1, person 1ba sends .1, person 1bb sends .1, person 1bc sends .1, person 1ca sends .1, person 1cb sends .1, person 1cc sends .1. Person 1a, 1b, and 1c all collect .2. Owner collects .3. Nine people are out .1, for a total defecit of .9. Owner has collected .4 total.
So now the nine people (1aa, 1ab, 1ac, 1ba, 1bb, 1bc, 1ca, 1cb, 1cc) all have to each get three people under them. As we can see from the pattern forming, .2 goes to the person above them and .1 to the owner. After this level, there will be 27 people out a total of 2.7, with the owner having collected a total of 1.3.
On the next level, those 27 people all have to get three people under them. The total defecit after this level will be 8.1, with the owner having collected a total of 4.
As you can see, for the pyramid to progress, you need exponentially more and more people to join. The total deficit rises and rises as you'll continuously have more and more people out money. When they get paid back, you have even MORE people out money. It's unstable because there aren't an infinite amount of people with an infinite amount of money...eventually nobody else wants to contribute, and the system stops, and the nature of something like this is that when it stops, it'll always be at the maximum deficit.
HereToTrade has either not at all thought out the sustainability of this project.. Or has, and intends on running off with the money once it becomes clear this project is defunct.
Based on his behaviour - his crass insults and abject behaviour - leads me to believe that this is indeed a scam. He seems continually to demonstrate that his only objective is to enrich himself no matter what the cost - even his own reputation. He himself does not care how he appears to the public as he has no hesitation in regards to insulting people, for yet again, simply having a logical opinion.
February 16, 2014, 03:43:06 PM
Don't miss out on this great opportunity.
Yea, great opportunity to lose your money
February 16, 2014, 03:06:12 PM
Don't miss out on this great opportunity.
February 16, 2014, 01:31:44 PM
come on guys, invest here
February 16, 2014, 12:18:54 PM
Are you kidding? Anyway if you paying higher - it will stops soon - 100%.
If you paying lower than input - it will stops soon - 100%.
because if you are paying lower than input -it is 100000% scam, because you are taking part of money to ur purse
EDIT: I read your scheme, and what can I say - anyway you are paying 200%.
in cause you are sending small parts of money - it will go longer, but anyway it will die
NoIf you paying lower than input - it will stops soon - 100%.
because if you are paying lower than input -it is 100000% scam, because you are taking part of money to ur purse
EDIT: I read your scheme, and what can I say - anyway you are paying 200%.
in cause you are sending small parts of money - it will go longer, but anyway it will die
No
I am taking some of the money, another reason for me to continue this and not to scam.
No
February 16, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
Are you kidding? Anyway if you paying higher - it will stops soon - 100%.
If you paying lower than input - it will stops soon - 100%.
because if you are paying lower than input -it is 100000% scam, because you are taking part of money to ur purse
EDIT: I read your scheme, and what can I say - anyway you are paying 200%.
in cause you are sending small parts of money - it will go longer, but anyway it will die
If you paying lower than input - it will stops soon - 100%.
because if you are paying lower than input -it is 100000% scam, because you are taking part of money to ur purse
EDIT: I read your scheme, and what can I say - anyway you are paying 200%.
in cause you are sending small parts of money - it will go longer, but anyway it will die
February 16, 2014, 10:56:41 AM
Looks highly legit and professional...
February 16, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
We need more investors to get the ball rollin.
February 16, 2014, 10:33:54 AM
You always only need 3, never 9.
You said:"You can choose who to invest under, so let me know who you are investing under or if you don't care who it is just write "anyone" in your post and I will decide who your investment will go under."
if level 1 is already busy that means he needs 3 investors only! if on level 2 there are 2 persons and i pay I would be on 2nd level and I doubt you will put the next 3 who invest under me so i can get fist the money!
so yeah we need 9 not 3! well one of us needs 7 the other one 8 and the last one 9
February 16, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
You always only need 3, never 9.
You said:"You can choose who to invest under, so let me know who you are investing under or if you don't care who it is just write "anyone" in your post and I will decide who your investment will go under."
if level 1 is already busy that means he needs 3 investors only! if on level 2 there are 2 persons and i pay I would be on 2nd level and I doubt you will put the next 3 who invest under me so i can get fist the money!
so yeah we need 9 not 3! well one of us needs 7 the other one 8 and the last one 9
February 16, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
Did you send any payouts yet?
Haven't got enough investors yet, one more investment of 0.1 BTC is needed so I can make a payout. February 16, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
Did you send any payouts yet?
February 16, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Only one more investor for option 0.1 needed, so I can make payout!
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