[Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. - page 4.

AB de Royse777

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Quote from: TMAN on January 14, 2020, 10:04:57 AM

then you are on my distrust list now as you are going to give them an un earned green mark you fool

It's your trust list and you keep it how you want. I will tag them only if they do not pay the participants. The forum users are adult enough and going through the feedback page they can decide what is good for them.

Talking about the green? As long as yours get removed I will remove mine too as mine is serving as the counter of yours. I am really not into leaving feedback and stuffs much by the way.

I really do not see the point to tag someone just because they did not use escrow. My mind is open to listen by the way. Feel free bud.

TMAN

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 14, 2020, 09:58:33 AM

I disagree the Tag and I am going to counter yours. And I will tag them if they do not pay their participants as they promised.

then you are on my distrust list now as you are going to give them an un earned green mark you fool

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Quote from: YOSHIE on January 14, 2020, 03:59:44 AM

What happens if the BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign does not use escrow, which has been provided in this bitcointalk forum.

If they do not pay the bounty and signature campaign participants then they will get red tag. Plain and simple. Can we force them to use escrow? No, we can not.

@YOSHIE, there are two dimension of your topic.
1. You are questioning them not to use escrow
2. Few scam accusations against them. <=== I have not verified them so I really do not have any idea about the status and details of those accusations.

You left them a negative feedback saying:

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Some participants complained about the company (BestChange) that it was likely a fraud and did not use the available escrow. Be Careful.

Note: likely
And also note: Did not use available escrow.

So it turns out that you tagged a user based on your observation (likely fraud) only, did not bother to do an investigation and also you tagged them because they did not use any escrow?

Do we really tag users because they do not use escrow and without any investigation on the scam accusations they have against them?

TMAN left this:

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no escrow campaign - Users be aware. I will remove the tag after the user agrees to escrow or makes 1st payment

I disagree the Tag and I am going to counter yours. And I will tag them if they do not pay their participants as they promised.

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It would be good if they accept some kind of escrow or a way to show members they are serious, honest and that people will be paid.
That being said, I don't think red trust is correct here, so I will tag it with neutral feedback for now.

YOSHIE

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Quote from: Best_Change on January 14, 2020, 09:07:04 AM

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I don't care if you run your business good or bad.
I see the fact that some of your clients have complained about your business in the 2017 century.

Reputation.
1. BestChange is accused of being a fraud by several of his clients.
2. Not using escrow in the current campaign, vulnerable to participant fraud.
3. Accepting campaign participants without mentioning the participant's name in the last post.

So, if you are fine here, following the current rules, use escrow for a few weeks to make your campaign safer and better for you now.
The funds you pay for participants are very large so secure your campaign funds.
After finishing all that, it's back to normal and you're safe.

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I had a little bit confusion about their payment amount they want to pay as it is more than other project. That's why i didn't join singature campaign. Thanks for creating and beawaring us.

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If we do the math with the current all accepted participants of their signature campaign it is amounting $3585 or 0.4144 BTC (via preev.com rate) this week plus the other payment for their social media bounties too.

Quote from: Best_Change on January 14, 2020, 09:07:04 AM

We hope that you will kindly remove your Negative trust once you see the first payouts.

As stated on your trust summary by TMAN as well, I think they'll do it as soon as it goes smooth well on your end or if not, expect dozens of it on your trust page. I'm just being realistic here.

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Quote from: Best_Change on January 14, 2020, 09:07:04 AM

Hi YOSHIE,

We are a legitimate business running since 2007 and would certainly not risk our reputation by tricking forum users into our campaign and not paying them.

Also, as for the two situations you are citing, as a business which is an intermediary between clients and exchangers, we always strive to resolve any issues the clients may have (although this is a rare case since we check all the exchangers before adding them to our website). In the first situation, we asked the user to contact us and so no feedback from him in the thread. The second situation was resolved.

We hope that you will kindly remove your Negative trust once you see the first payouts.

Try resolving the past scam accusation of your exchange and also get an escrow of the funds for your marketing in the forum. If its resolved, you may get the neutral trust of the reputable people here in the forum. You can't just solve these issues by citing your business is running for the longest time since 2007.

Try picking an escrow here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recommended-bitcointalk-escrow-services-2439910 and perhaps a reputable bounty manager as well.

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Hi YOSHIE,

We are a legitimate business running since 2007 and would certainly not risk our reputation by tricking forum users into our campaign and not paying them.

Also, as for the two situations you are citing, as a business which is an intermediary between clients and exchangers, we always strive to resolve any issues the clients may have (although this is a rare case since we check all the exchangers before adding them to our website). In the first situation, we asked the user to contact us and so no feedback from him in the thread. The second situation was resolved.

We hope that you will kindly remove your Negative trust once you see the first payouts.

YOSHIE

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Quote from: webtricks on January 14, 2020, 08:45:36 AM

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Because this campaign is new, it doesn't matter, the problem is, the BestChange company advertised in the campaign is involved in a number of frauds experienced by participants.

The campaign is paid by an automated company, (BestChange) basically cheats participants.
And one more suspicion is that they don't use escrow available on the bitcointalk forum.

If he uses the available escrow in the next few weeks, maybe the suspicion will subside and the trust can be removed.

TMAN

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I had already tagged them, they have sent me a PM about this

I requested them to use a site escrow - lets see what they come back with

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No doubt, campaign is looking fishy but on the same note, you should also notice that it isn't some new company or newbie creating campaign. Bestchange is into existence from last many years so the case here is little bit different. We can't assume campaign is 100% scam.

So for that reason, it's inappropriate to tag them for the possible scam. It may weaken the result of campaign as members may not use their site by seeing red trust on the account. So for now, it's better if neutral trust is given. If they won't pay after a week, you are good to give red trust.

Also the two cases you mentioned above don't directly bring Bestchange into question. It's a listing website and such discrepancies are common. If there are 10-15 faulty trades then there are 10-15K good trades which aren't discussed anywhere.

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I saw the signature campaign and i was amazed at the number of people who applied and are willing to join the campaign even without doing a little background checks and ensuring the funds are in escrow.

From a personal perspective, the campaign looks so shady and too good to believe especially the social media bounty bit. I have a feeling things may not end well.

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This thread should be on the Scam Accusations or Reputation. What do you think ?

So far the fact is that campaign funds are not owned by escrow and the number of participants received is unknown. The signature campaign will begin tomorrow or January 15, 2020.

YOSHIE

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