Topic: Douglus should remove cryptodevil from DT due to conflict of interest - page 2. (Read 9065 times)

Cryptodevil altered my trust rating - I HAVE NEVER TRADED WITH HIM - I DO NOT KNOW WHO HE IS.

I'm a respected member of the crypto community. All I have done on this forum is disagree with his opinion and he DEFAMES me and could financially affect my trading.

He accuses me PUBLICLY as a Leocoin SHILL - I have no association with Leocoin and have even stated in my first unedited post that I would not invest in Leocoin.

I'd delete my account if I could but apparently that isn't possible on this site either.

What a nice way to treat a newbie to this site. I think he should be banned.

There are many successful MLM products as well - like Avon, Herbalife and Amway - all which interestingly have associations with LEOcoin.

Forums can be held liable for defamation by their users if they know about it and don't remove it.

I doubt that this reaches that threshold  but if a site allows other users to troll newbies in such a way it doesn't say much good about the site.

I'm a respected member of the crypto community.

I think he should be banned.

Also 'strange' how the dumb speculation of an obvious sock-puppet account is resurrected three months later by another sock-puppet account.

Do you have any proof of that or are you full of shit? THanks.

This guy is probably cryptodevil based on the messages he sent me

I have done some research and have discovered some non-conclusive evidence that points to cryptodevil being Antreas Kililis from Cyprus who was the owner of buddyhost.com, a hosting company that disappeared one day and ran away with customers funds without helping any customers migrate their websites. You can read about this web hosting company here: https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1245319

cryptodevil, what do you have to say to this accusation?

If anyone can find more evidence that links cryptodevil to Antreas Kililis please post it.

As many of you know, cryptodevil has been leaving negative trust for people that post in the ponzi section under the guise that these people are promoting a ponzi when they post in a thread about a ponzi.

What you may not have noticed is that the only reason why cryptodevil is in Default Trust is because he was added by dooglus. Douglus is the operator and sole owner of Just-Dice which competes directly with ponzis. The reason why Just-Dice competes with ponzies is because players of ponzis are gambling that the ponzi will continue to receive enough additional money to continue to pay and that the OP of the ponzi will not run away before paying out the player's stake. Players of Just-Dice are gambling that a roll will be under or over a certain number based on a complex mathematical formula.

There is a clear and concise conflict of interest here because dooglus is directly benefiting from cryptodevil leaving negative trust for anyone who plays in a ponzi. This drives people away from this form of gambling and some of these players will migrate to gambling at Just-Dice.

Furthermore cryptodevil is leaving negative trust for people who are attempting to start new types of gambling games not frequently seen in the bitcoin scene. To make matters worse, he is leaving negative trust to anyone who says that such new gambling game would be fun.

The refrence for the person attempting to start new types of gambling games not frequently seen in the bitcoin scene is a lottery game, and the refrence for the person "encouraging" people to play at this "scam" is a post of someone saying this kind of game would be fun, and even said that the game will be risky and implied it might not be "legit". This is something that has further benefited dooglus because anyone considering to play this game would be labeled a scammer, funneling potential gamblers to play at Just-Dice.





Douglus should remove cryptodevil from his trust list to prevent himself receiving undue benefit from cryptodevil's actions. If someone else believes that cryptodevil is deserving to be in Default Trust then they are free to add cryptodevil provided there is not another conflict of interest.

The strangest piece of this puzzle is that dooglus has actually given positive trust to a ponzi operator in the past for "being honest about being a ponzi" and refused to remove such positive trust even after being made aware that he left positive trust for someone who stole money from others. Maybe it was because the date of the trust was a time when Just-Dice was closed and such form of gambling would not compete with Just-Dice.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-does-a-scammer-have-positive-trust-1208053

local rule: No discussing the merits behind leaving negative trust for people who post about playing in a ponzi -- this is already something that cryptodevil is engaging in, and cryptodevil has made it clear that he has no intention of stopping this practice.

local rule: No ad-hominem attacks

I am not involved in Ponzi schemes. Nothing was revealed because nothing was hidden.

Maybe you're just another idiot QuickSeller alt. See how this "maybe" game works?

Now that it is revealed that Douglus is involved in ponzi schemes, maybe he is keeping cryptodevil in his trust list to week out all the ponzi competition and then open a massive ponzi scheme of his own 

False. Look at the feedbacks that cryptodevil is leaving. They coincide with investing in ponzi schemes and posting about investing and posting a message that it is unknown how long the ponzi scheme will last.

Now that it is revealed that Douglus is involved in ponzi schemes, maybe he is keeping cryptodevil in his trust list to week out all the ponzi competition and then open a massive ponzi scheme of his own 

False. Look at the feedbacks that cryptodevil is leaving. They coincide with investing in ponzi schemes and posting about investing and posting a message that it is unknown how long the ponzi scheme will last.

Now that it is revealed that Douglus is involved in ponzi schemes, maybe he is keeping cryptodevil in his trust list to week out all the ponzi competition and then open a massive ponzi scheme of his own 

Huh? Nobody cares where you invest your coins. Send them to Karpeles or Garza if you insist.

Such tears. Many beg.

Jeez, you take Sunday off and people have a breakdown about their, rather dishonest, claims to not have supported a ponzi. Evidence is a bitch, ain't it?

In any event, the ponzi scammer has torched that thread so the reference post is gone from this forum, which is the important thing. I understand that it is possible to create trust references which won't disappear in these circumstances but as long as the cheerleading here is gone that's all I am concerned with.

I will delete your rating, albeit your post history does still contain some suggestion that you still consider a 'good' ponzi to be a worthwhile 'investment', which could encourage newbs to think likewise. So I'd ask that you reconsider your position in this regards as it is still going to to risk attracting further negative ratings.

I have many requests from people to delete ratings, which I normally will do, but I'd be hard pressed to justify deleting one issued to the same member after he'd already had one removed. So if you choose to continue posting support for what you consider to be 'good' ponzis in future, expect a permanent rating.

The odds of gambling are not always known before hand for the public to view.  An example, I bet you .01 BTC that Cryptodevil removes the red trust, there is no public algorithm for what will happen, it is a game of chance just as poker is just as a physical game of dice, just as roulette.  Investing in a ponzi does require increased risk for this lack of knowledge and so if you win the reward is much greater especially with things like compounding interest.

Anyway, I am not defending Ponzi schemes or scam from the start sites I just am saying that they are another form of gambling and they follow the risk/reward formula just as any other investment would. 

* Interesting program
* website seems to be designed pretty well
* the program isn't anything to crazy so it may be sustainable
* if that reserve fund is legit that is also in your favor as well

Oops....

https://archive.is/jSDGq#selection-10285.0-10285.190

This is the reference link:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/defunct-1396008

There is no evidence of what I even said on this page.  And if anything I was warning people not to invest in the site because the site was posted by a newbie and the site looked horrible and was not able to be viewed on a browser after a few days.

Interesting program, website seems to be designed pretty well, the program isn't anything to crazy so it may be sustainable, if that reserve fund is legit that is also in your favor as well.

But on the subject of gambling can you explain this: what's the house edge for ponzis, and what are the odds for the "victim" to win or lose in one? And why does a ponzi tend to collapse whereas a dice game or a lottery does not?