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Topic: DT1-member included banned red-trusted users which increased his own Trust score - page 2. (Read 771 times)

legendary
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1374
Slava Ukraini!
Can you tell how long Klarki has had them on his trust list?
Good point: his Trust list is the same now as it was in January.
Timeline of things is important in this case. Now I'm on mobile, so it's not very convenient to check everything. It's important to know what happened earlier - these users got red trust and ban or user mentioned in OP added them to his trust list. If he added them before these events, I don't think it can be called as trust abuse.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Can you tell how long Klarki has had them on his trust list?
Good point: his Trust list is the same now as it was in January.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
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Can you tell how long Klarki has had them on his trust list?
If they have been on his list for a very long time then maybe it is not malicious trust stacking and he simply didn't realize they were later banned or whatever..

Before the new DT system many users included others thinking it was like a +trust or something, I imagine like the way I was included by Seal a long time ago and never even knew until the new system was put in, so it could also be something like that..

Anyone PM him yet?
It's possible he has a good explanation and will fix it..

May not be a good inclusion into DT1 either way though..
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1451
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
DT members, and especially on DT1, should be heavily scrutinized by the community for such things not to be so easy to pull off.
Agreed. But DT1 changes monthly, DT2 changes continuously, and individual Trust lists can change at any moment too. It's very time consuming to keep track of all bad actions all the time.
I'd say that in this context, tools are the best utility the community could have to assist in policing DT and activity like "back scratching" by making easier to hunt for anomalies. I'm just wondering, since you say it's time consuming, is the access to trust activity developers can have to build their tools sufficient? And how resource intensive would be a tool that could make matters easier for such abuses in DT?

legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
I've never heard of this guy before,
Well that is strange, Because....

Klarki is the maintainer of the Livecoin exchange thread and acts as their support on this forum. I am not sure but they may just the owner of this exchange. I am sure he can be approached via PM and told about this suspected trust farming.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
DT farming is on the way, I guess its time for theymos to manually blacklist some DT members who abuse the system.
I don't expect this to happen: theymos has blacklisted a few people from DT1 (several of them at their own request), but I haven't seen anyone blacklisted from DT2. The system is designed for DT1 to keep DT2 in check.

DT members, and especially on DT1, should be heavily scrutinized by the community for such things not to be so easy to pull off.
Agreed. But DT1 changes monthly, DT2 changes continuously, and individual Trust lists can change at any moment too. It's very time consuming to keep track of all bad actions all the time.

I've never heard of this guy before
In his defense: he mainly posts in Russian, which most forum users can't read.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6981
Top Crypto Casino
DT farming is on the way, I guess its time for theymos to manually blacklist some DT members who abuse the system.
Agreed.  I've never heard of this guy before, but it's obvious what he's trying to pull here.  Not sure if he thought it would go unnoticed or what, but props to LoyceV for uncovering this rancid piece of shenanigans. 

OMG... all the things I see members do here to pump up their profiles.  Roll Eyes
Seriously.  Anything that can be abused on this forum will be, to the maximum extent possible at some point or another.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1451
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Props to Loyce for discovering things like this... The trust system has a few weaknesses and I guess 'back scratching' could be considered one. DT members, and especially on DT1, should be heavily scrutinized by the community for such things not to be so easy to pull off.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
Bitcoin = Financial freedom
DT farming is on the way, I guess its time for theymos to manually blacklist some DT members who abuse the system.

Better discuss this on Meta Section. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1989
฿uy ฿itcoin
Jeez, who would've seen this kind of behaviour coming Roll Eyes.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
OMG... all the things I see members do here to pump up their profiles.  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
See this update before jumping to conclusions Wink



While updating Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings, I noticed this DT1-member:
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Trust list for: klarki (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-12-21_Sat_06.10h)
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klarki Trusts these users' judgement:
1. Cubic Earth Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (18 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Lauda (Trust: +34 / =4 / -1) (1232 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. DrBeer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (52 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. donnyespo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. yahoo62278 (Trust: +20 / =3 / -0) (1052 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. soniclord Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. nimogsm (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (26 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. lega46141 Banned! (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. TheFuzzStone (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 762 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Komosa (Trust: neutral) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. oldminer78 Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. PolyPanto (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (148 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

He included 4 banned users, 3 of them have received negative feedback, and all 4 have given him positive feedback.
Out of the +7 positive feedbacks he received, only +1 (johhnyUA) was not put on DT2 by himself.

I'm just leaving this here for the community, so it doesn't get burried in the other thread.
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