Topic: DUCKDICE SCAM - page 2. (Read 442 times)

Well, it sure does not look good for you regarding the multi account situation.
Sure you can say it was a "mistake" but still it is strange. I mean, your post also doesn't really look like you copy/pasted anything to be honest, which is another flag.

By the way, your account and the one called Ykavyvu776 have been blocked almost the same day so it seems, coincidence?

Looks a bit strange now, you have to admit that.

Once again. I have only one account Yxuyovysis384.
I have nothing to do with the other accounts.
I originally wrote this post to attract the attention of the casino administration and tell about my situation. Now this casino is trying to turn everything in its favour. Do not forget that they ignored me for more than a month, and now they are trying to link me to another account. Adminmtration casino just wants to get out of this situation pretending that they are right and such behaviour "had their reasons".

Bobstone is now trying to turn the situation in his favour.
As I said in my correspondence on duckdice.io, I took one of the posts about a similar situation as an example to write my own, as I had not written such a post before, and after reading the rules of the section itself on this forum, I saw that the post should be clearly structured.
That is, in fact, I copied someone else's post, changing it to fit my situation and accidentally did not delete someone else's login at the beginning of the post. I think a lot of people do that. Also, the screenshots I attached to the first post clearly show my login.
For some reason, no one from the duckdice administration noticed this error until I pointed it out myself. Also on the screenshots that I attached to the first post, my login is clearly visible. Exactly the one in question. Now bobstone is trying to make himself look right, but one typo, which I reported myself, does not prove him right. One can only realise that the person does not read addresses carefully. I also still have not received a reply to my email and have not even received my deposit back.

Did you check your other account? Please check the address you're using for Ykavyvu776, perhaps the fund were transferred there.

I initially doesn't understand how does a casino can mixed up two different case, but then I realized that you apparently have two different account, so what happened here is perhaps bobstone initially investigate one account of yours, be it Ykavyvu776 or Yxuyovysis384, and then got mixed up with another.

By the way, the forum archive everything, so even when you edited your post and omitted some initial information, those info can be easily dug out and be re-presented.

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Edit: I made half of this post earlier, but have to attend to an IRL matter, come back and finished my post, oblivious that Kirito89 had made a post when I leave the forum.

Hello, I would like to address this situation a bit.

OP has been flagged by the sports provider, including our clone detection system with using multiple accounts to take advantage of the sports betting system.

OP actually "makes a mistake" in his opening post where he states 2 of his usernames, he uses a lot more though, but in his initial OP he had stated usernames: Ykavyvu766   and  Yxuyovysis384.  I'd actually like if one of you kind bitcointalk members can recover his unedited OP where he states both usernames, basically he removed the  Ykavyvu766  one from his OP.

OP has received his deposit back on account Ykavyvu766 and is now chasing his deposits on accountrat Yxuyovysis384 aswell.

Account Yxuyovysis384 is currently still under investigation, as OP has used different KYCs for all his alt accounts.

Regarding the part with "just post the transaction, its public data", as being a registered company, we do comply with GDPR matters and laws that we must follow, so we are currently waiting from the legal department on confirmation if we can post the full transaction hash, or to expedite the procedure OP can give us permission here to post his transaction.

Will follow-up once I have more updates on this.


Edit to add:  Here is the unedited version of OPs message where he stated 2 usernames, of his 2 alt accounts, where he was arbitrage betting on both, using 2 different KYCs   
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6421/64210004.html


Best regards,

Kirito89, Duckdice Support.

What if the user insists that you did pay him, yet you did... What next?
If it's damaging your reputation, are you not obliged to share the TX ID showing that he was paid? After all, this is the blockchain where all transactions can be viewed by the public.

I think you are just being too timid. Just share the TX ID.

Bobstone, send me txid on my mail. I didn't receive anything. You're either confused or you're trying to trick me. Probably both.

I think the problem here is user data, Users can share their data at their own will, however, we have data from their correspondences, transaction history, deposits and withdraws etc. that we should not share unless specifically asked to share by the original poster.

There is actually even more confusion to this, as i can't verify with bitcointalk that this is indeed the same user at all, so we can certainly share tit for tat information e.g. on the same grounds, if user posts a screenshot of a transaction, we can post the link to the transaction and etc but no business on a public forum should be displaying the data of users without their explicit permission

hope that clears this part up

Bobstone,
DuckDice Live Support

OP has been paid, what details i can make public is a strange question, is OP willing to provide the address he provided us that he wanted the transactions sent too? etc

Bobstone
DuckDice Live Support

That wouldn't be possible, OP got banned from his account, he can login and retrieve his betting history. DuckDice can provide it for us, but most likely than not, casino will not provide that kind of information as they consider them the players' sensitive data and privacy.

TXID should be good enough to give us a better understanding of their position on this story.

OP please post screenshots of your sports bets.

Thank you.


bobstone, can you perhaps clarify about this matter? Perhaps send us OP's return deposit TXID? I believe you have his consent to publish that information. And, how likely is it that you got things mixed up again? Given OP claimed that he's yet to receive any, and you said that you have, perhaps you were looking at other case when you wrote your response above?

If you have send the return deposit and it can be proven by TXID, though, then it'll be safe to assume that there's something about OP than meet the eyes. Otherwise, he said the truth that he didn't get his deposit and you can perhaps mull over the possibility of having a consecutive oversight.

No, this is my first ban ever. I used usdt for deposit, so there is no chance that the payment is still "pending".

Do I sound like I am satisfied? If I am, wouldn't I stop questioning things? Instead, I asked OP for other clarification, am I not? I'm simply thanking bobstone for his very prompt reply, as I expected to hear something back for perhaps a couple of days instead of an hour, given his last online activity was about a month before.

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May I know whether you're previously had some situation with other casino? A limited bet or being accused and banned for arbitrage betting, perhaps?

just curious, what crypto did you use to deposit on their casino? if it is BTC, any chance of providing any evidence? I am not saying that you are lying but it'll be better to show that you haven't received the deposit in your wallet yet.

@Bobstone, the OP claims that he hasn't received the original deposit amount, would you mind sharing the TxID of the transaction you made to his wallet?

Bobstone lied. I still haven't even received my deposit yet, I also have not been contacted personally by anyone regarding this issue. As I said before, this is a gang of scammers. "We are accusing you of something, but we don't know exactly what yet, we don't have proof either, but we need to believe you, we are paying out winnings to someone". That was roughly the message of their previous responses. What a joke...
Still waiting for my money

Are you really satisfied with this reply? I find it a bit weak to be honest.

Sure it's good they already refunded the deposit but just claiming OP did arbitration bets ( which in no way harm a site  ) sounds kinda easy, doesn't it? Also bobstone wrote "this might be arbitrage or other mechanisms" . So what is it exactly? What kind of explanation is that? Don't they even know what they are accusing OP of? It sounds strange to me to not give any real info.
But I guess we see that all the time in here. Accusations against players but rarely any proof. Players always must send proof of anything but casinos/bookies don't, I never understand that. Why doesn't this apply to both parties?

DuckDice is actually one of the casinos who are very prompt on handling cases upon being notified [as evidenced on this situation] and one of the very few that --at least according to what the data said on my list-- have a 10/10 reputation of resolving an issue.

Previously, as explained above by their representative, the long silence was due to a mix up, and that they profusely apologized for that. However, it seems their original standing stays, that you're violating their sportsbetting rule.

Granted, you only made 5 bets on DuckDice. However, if you previously had similar case with other casino who happen to share provider with DD, there is a chance that the detection and record carries over. Did you?

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bobstone, thank you for the very prompt reply. That's way sooner than what I actually expected to be.

OK, an update on the situation,

Some bad communication on our side internally, we believed this to of been solved already however it was mixed up with another case of abuse we were investigating thus my comments about multi-accounting in the previous post.

We have now paid OP his original deposit amount, his wins are still, unfortunately, forfeited as per our policies regarding people flagged for intentional sports abuse.

Apologies this really shouldn't have gone on for as long as this or required OP to post on bitcointalk for us to notice, we will investigate our procedures and make sure in future such a mix-up cannot happen again.

I will stress this is an extremely rare situation, our provider is very stringent in ensuring checks are fair and thorough.

Bobstone
DuckDice Live Support


 

That is such a lie. I made about 5 bets, 3 of which were live. I guess the point is that I increased my deposit 4 times, so why should you pay it out, if you can just declare me an abuser and not pay anything.
I read other posts with complaints about duckdice.io, in which I noticed a large number of dishonest actions  of this casino. So my advice, stay away from them and do not carry their money. There are much better alternatives.