Topic: DUCKDICE SCAM (Read 546 times)

Dude, anyway, it'll be nice if you can cast off any doubt from us about the possible multi-acc with the account you [in your defense] merely copy-pasted. Perhaps explaining about the why-s I asked here will be a nice start.

It's always like this when you are communicating with support through mail they don't always attend to mail maybe at their own discretion or when they felt is right to reply you that's when you would get their response, to me it's better livesupport but since they referred back to mail then I will say it could be hard for your request to be solved. I could flashed back then when I had little issue with a local gambling site I was ref to contact them through mail and it took about months plus to get my problem solved.

Guys, anyway , I didn't receive even my deposit back. I'm not even talking about money that I won.
They just ignore my e-mails. On live chat I receive answer:
"Sadly we in live support don’t have that information since our core team and security department deal with this kind of cases via email due to its sensitivity"
So fucking trash scam casino.

I'm not going to draw the conclusion here through the usernames. OP has already said above that DuckDice randomly generate a username for all the new registered users, which is pretty same there. Based on my 6 years gambling experience on DuckDice, I can confirm that he is right about the randomly given username. However, the last active time of 'drhouse99' and account registration time of OP can't be a coincidence here (highlighted by holydarkness above).

Don't you find the two similar usernames weird? They are very similar looking and both were banned for sports abuse. Although his explanation about copying the text from a different scam accusation is theoretically possible (I personally don't believe it), I am not buying the story that his account is banned for a similar reason another account with a similar username got banned as well.   

Thank you for validating it. I guess it is now even more valid to question how does OP exactly landed on drhouse99's thread instead of the first result.


He uses different KYC for each of his account, I think it's quite a similar situation that previously happened to BC with Joanna226 and ghostingura2 [i.e. the abuser bought people's credentials to fake KYC]. I'll assume that the investigation is still ongoing because DuckDice wants to cross and dots everything, much like when BC did a video verification although they've suspected a foul play.

I believe that the 'Forum Search' filter gives the same result to everyone. And those topics appear at the top which wording percentage match most with the searched words. 'drhouse99' topic isn't appearing at the top if I search with 'Duckdice scam', the same topic is appearing at the top for me which is in your screenshot.

Why OP's account is still under the investigation process if both sports provider and DuckDice clone detection system have found the connection between those accounts? Has he supplied valid KYC documents from both accounts?

Honestly, if you use search engines, they will give different results over time. For example, Yandex gave the first answer from drhouse99 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duckdiceio-scam-5496834, but a Google search gives the answer from Furtikzergagil. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-duckdiceio-5446294
But in my opinion, your assumption is very reasonable and serves as even more evidence that the OP was not entirely honest. I often see casinos accused of not paying out winnings, but in most cases, this is due to the user's fault. The entire casino security system is triggered when searching for duplicates, and they can allow users to play for a long time, but when it comes to withdrawals, questions will always arise. Casinos should not give away all their detection methods; otherwise, they open loopholes for cheating.

It's not just a matter of typo and forgetting to remove a copied part. From their side, they confirmed that their detection system [both by them and the one by their sports provider] caught similarities. And if we suppose that they "made up" those statement [which can be proven rather easily on a 3rd party mediator], the findings made on the forum rather points out to that possibility as quite likely.

But let's amuse a benefit of doubt for a second. Judging from your explanation number 3, it can be inferred that the result you get is roughly similar with what I displayed on post #28, that the case by drhouse99 was not on the first result. Interestingly, the post being displayed was not the one by OP, it's a reply made by someone else. So, at glance, you wouldn't know what's the case is about.

In order to learn about it, you have to click it open. From this, there are two possibilities. One, you skipped the first entry entirely, and that'll bring us to a question: why? Or two, you read the first one, ignored it although it has a better format and detailed information, and choose to copy a wall of text, which brings us to a question: why?

And here's another why: you go to the forum and use their search feature instead of utilizing search engine like common people do?

If I read this reply rightly, the claim they paid up the initial deposit but on the other account


Maybe that was what @bobstone refereed to in his initial replies, or perhaps there was a mix-up as he admitted in one of his posts.

This case is getting more complicated then it should be. First the Duckdice claim that they have paid the OP. They are not willing to show the transaction ID as per their privacy policy (and that is OK) but now all of sudden we are dealing with multiple accounts issue.


I would like to ask the Duckdice support that regardless of OP has one or more account, they first told that OP has been paid. So if they paid the OP, then even if OP is lying, OP should have got the money. Did the duckdice really paid him as they claimed before  

Away from the copy-paste-typo argument. The timeline of the last active of the old account, time of creation of the new account and the new post via the new account is something that can not be under looked. It appears as though OP logged into the other old account shortly before deciding to create a fresh accusation via the newly created account.

June 13, 2024, 11:17:22 PM Time of registration of New account (Yxuyovysis384)
June 13, 2024, 11:26:57 PM The time the old account as last online (drhouse99)
June 13, 2024, 11:56:49 PM The time this accusation was made

All this happened within 40 minutes. I believe in coincidences but this?

Maybe we will just have to wait for the investigation results from Duckdice, but there is probably more into this case.

Actually the reason we are considering Yxuyovysis384 and Ykavyvu776 connected is due to our sports provider security team, aswell as our own clone detection system which has linked these 2 accounts  .

What I pointed out earlier from this thread is simply OP's slip-up regarding covering his tracks on bitcointalk and making it seem like a genuine accusation.



Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

1. Drhouse99 had very similar situation. That's why I took his/her post as example. Perhaps we had a bet on the same event or outcome and all bettors on that event were considered "abusers".Which, of course, is unlikely. I'm more inclined to believe that duckdice periodically just doesn't pay out winnings, as the blocking happened exactly after the request for winnings.
2. "similar usernames" : You don't choose your username by yourself. Duckdice generates it randomly after registration.
3."Usually the user reads only the first post, but you took the next one as an example." An ironclad argument. No comment.

The post was written for the purpose of contacting the administration. If duckdice had linked my account and Drhouse99's account, they would have mentioned it in the beginning and would have attached proof, but this way they just decided to get caught up in a typo in the text.
Also, the reason I chose this forum to write this post is because of the direct link on the duckdice site. I thought I could get some help in resolving the conflict here.
I have no time or desire to argue with anyone. I just want my money.

If we refer to the second part of my post above, though, I think there is actually a possibility of something worth questioning from OP's narrative. The time of account creation can be coincidental and hardly a smoking gun, but his narrative that he used the forum search feature? And he goes to the second thread on the search result instead of the first one?

I think what commonly happen is people typed "duckdice scam" on Google and landed on this forum instead of landing on this forum and searched with its search feature, and people will usually goes with the first result instead of the second one. Granted, the second one was more recent, but if they open the first one [the one by Ozafejyw782] as people would normally do, and later opened the second one by drhouse99, one would rather likely to prefer to copy the format by Ozafejyw782 as it has more... neat look compared to drhouse99's which basically a wall of text.

Those things weighted, I think it's quite acceptable to mull over the possibility that OP "landed" on drhouse99's thread because he already know the thread exist.

Though, above all, mahdi, do you mind to do us a favor and validate one of my findings? If you type "duckdice scam" on forum search feature, will your result come like mine above or will it shows drhouse99's thread as the first entry? i.e. does the forum search result come the same as every people or it has its own algorithm or the likes that influences the result being displayed.

So, the final decision hasn't been made yet for the OP's issue. The user still has the opportunity to get the refund after the final decision, isn't it? Doesn't his KYC data location match with his account login IP address?

As 'holydarkness' has clarified above, it is pretty clear that OP had copied the first clause of the accusation from this thread. Are DuckDice team considering this copy-paste mistake to address 'Yxuyovysis384' and 'Ykavyvu776' as connected accounts?

It'll be this one. I have to say that the "accidentally copy and paste" thing might holds some weight, given the accidental typo was also included. The real username of the player on that thread was Ykavyvu766, he mis-typed a character on his opening post, which the OP copied here, so yeah... it might be true.

However, the similarities in their situation [doing only few games before being banned, the bets of choice are sports-betting instead of casino] are rather uncanny. Also, read below,

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The case --seemingly-- resolved in favor of DuckDice. That player never make another post to pursue the matter although he can be online just a couple days ago. So, in a way, that case is not "resolved" in a way that the player did not get what he intended to get.

This is where you come, with a relatively similar username [characterwise] and... oh, relatively close time of account creation with the time when drhouse99 last online,



And, other thing that I find a bit strange... I tried to retrace your step, you say that go to the forum and searched with forum search feature? Not google or other search engine? That thing itself is a bit... unusual, but this is what actually shown if you do a "duckdice scam" on the forum search system [I hope others can verify by doing a search with that keyword themselves, see if the result come differently]:



Wouldn't logically you'll go with the first one you stumbled upon? Duckdice.io [SCAM and SHADY behavior]? Especially as that one is very well crafted and easier to understand due to it following forum's suggested format.

I don't understand, you're just ignoring what's going on.
I will describe the sequence of my actions in writing the post:
1. Going to the forum.
2. I type duckdice scam in the forum search. I find a similar post.
3. I copy and paste it into my post. I look at what I wrote as a PLAN for writing my post. That is, I look at how I should roughly describe the situation. Step by step. Then I simply replace part of the copied post with a description of how my situation went.
I can't just stupidly copy and paste without changes, because the situations are different, I think it's clear?
And it just came out that I didn't clear one line. It was clearly visible that the login was specified 2 times and different.


About the fact that I haven't provided proof that I've been ignored for over a month. Bosbtone himself confirmed it, read more carefully.
Also why the casino admin did not name my other logins, if according to them I used several accounts? They only told about it when I myself wrote that I made a mistake in the post. After that the casino administration decided to get at least something, as they have no evidence of multi-accounting and will not.

Also the duckdice administration wrote that the issue with Ykavyvu776 has been resolved, but how is that even relevant to me and why would I make this post to rehash a resolved situation?
Did this user and I send you the same wallet or what? What you are writing is absurd. It doesn't lend itself to logic.
If you want to solve this issue with me, you should have responded to my emails first.

Hello again,

Like I've said, you've made a "mistake" and posted 2 of your alt accounts, which you've edited, but thanks to Loyce who archives all edited messages, it was easy to point out.

Also, I am not "bobstone", I'm a different support agent that took a look into your case thanks to holydarkness's dm.

Can you please specify which "thread" you copy pasted with the username Ykavyvu776?  



Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

Actually, your proof about you being ignored for a month is not justified since you cut the email conversation right when you send your username which is almost a month when the casino support ask for it.

The email history show that you are the one just recently answered to them with your username. Also the fact that you violated multiple account tos which is proven with your unedited post makes you guilty for their verdict on your account.