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Topic: DUELBITS ASK FOR KYC WHEN YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR EARNED PROFITS - page 9. (Read 6210 times)

legendary
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I know that duelbits is one of the highly trusted casinos and I agree that it's the player's responsibility to read the service's To before using it but, to be honest, I've always been against asking for kyc only when the customer requests a withdrawal. It would be better to ask it from the start when the user creates an account or at least be as clear as possible when it will be requested (such as: if you're going to deposit/withdraw more than $xx, you'll need to verify your identity).
Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother to use their services and they will move to another casino that does not behave in that way, however I agree that I would like for the policies regarding KYC to be as clear as possible, I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies, and while I can understand that it is also very troublesome that many players that are honest and which only want to have some fun have to reveal their personal information because they triggered the internal systems of the casino, without knowing what they did wrong for them to receive this treatment.
legendary
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I know that duelbits is one of the highly trusted casinos and I agree that it's the player's responsibility to read the service's To before using it but, to be honest, I've always been against asking for kyc only when the customer requests a withdrawal. It would be better to ask it from the start when the user creates an account or at least be as clear as possible when it will be requested (such as: if you're going to deposit/withdraw more than $xx, you'll need to verify your identity).
hero member
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If this is true, I don’t believe that Duelbits won’t make prior announcement about asking KYC. It’s a reputable, safe and licensed casino so it won’t never create things that will ruin its own reputation. Or is it you OP that has a hidden agenda on this, and you are just trying to convince particularly newbies who easily believe in lies without DYOR first.
Actually there is nothing wrong with the Duelbit casino platform but Op didn't check the TOS first so he doesn't accept if the user needs KYC before withdrawal, I know he is very anti KYC so he will complain and ask for solutions in various threads or gambling groups because he doesn't agree with casino TOS requiring KYC verification. IMO
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Most casinos take this kind of measure to protect the site from abusers and money launderers that is why casinos ask for KYC when making big withdrawals and the limit is mostly set at 5k and above withdrawal. Duelbit is a well know gambling operator around the forum and it will be hard for us to believe some kind of accusation of scam against the casino.
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS
I've never used duelbits, but judging from your trust rating which was passed by one of the most reputable campaign managers on the forum, it is evident what your plan is.
Whether your claim against duelbits is true or false, it is left for the users of duelbits to decide, but for the new users who want to use duelbits, I will advise you all not to believe this op, go to duelbits, read and understand properly the rules of the game, and I believe you won't encounter or have any issues.
If this is true, I don’t believe that Duelbits won’t make prior announcement about asking KYC. It’s a reputable, safe and licensed casino so it won’t never create things that will ruin its own reputation. Or is it you OP that has a hidden agenda on this, and you are just trying to convince particularly newbies who easily believe in lies without DYOR first.
hero member
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS
From the OP character he is just a troll and does not have any effect on causing negative things to Duelbits. Just because you don't like KYC doesn't mean you have to brag and ban others too. Does that sound like a kid who lost playing baseball on the field and then told his other friends not to play on that spot too?

If the thing you don't like is KYC, then some of the requirements are many for you to skip at our casino. Despite the dislike, I emphasize that reducing gamblers like you is one form of hope for eliminating disease.
hero member
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There are not a lot of gambling options without KYC unless you want to take risks with new gambling sites which may turn out to be an altogether scam.

AMLC become more strict now about KYC regulation unlike back in the days that only huge withdrawals are required to comply to it.

If a new gambling platform attracts a user by some huge bonuses and claims to not require KYC then it is definitely a scam. You won't be able to withdraw your money there if you manage to win some. They will just freeze or disable your account without any reason.
hero member
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It is possible, but i can`t say that this is truth with my guarantee. I saw some gamblers that don`t want KYC and they have no any problem with it. They just sure that KYC is awful and don`t want it.
I don`t know what is the real problem the OP has but it doesn`t matter - there is ToS and he agreed with it, so he has to obey it.
Actually, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to do much with his account if he will not comply with the KYC procedure. We cannot know why the OP has been requested for KYC but the possibility of him violating their TOS very likely.

Yes, there's a lot of high rollers out there that has not been requested for KYC mainly because they have not violated any of the TOS of Duelbits.
The standard practice is to ask KYC before first withdrawal. I had to KYC several times with this reason. Honestly, i don`t remember any casino or exchange, that asked me KYC in other situations. May be someone can withdraw without KYC but i didn`t. The same situation has the OP but he want to withdraw his money without KYC. I don`t think that Duelbits will change their opinion due to this thread, so i think that you`re right - the OP has to KYC or to forget about his money.
hero member
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Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.
This is the common practice and if there’s a changes, gamblers will notify right away. Probably, because of long details gamblers didn’t make any time to understand the terms and conditions as long as they are allowed to create an account without having any KYC, and this is why many are not aware about this. If Duelbits freeze your account and ask for a KYC, there’s a reason behind it and the only way to solve that problem is to cooperate.
It is not an excuse not to read the terms and conditions, even if its long paragraph you still need to understand it because it will be your guide on the site and by this you can know what to do and not to do, have some time for this because it’s also important. Duelbits is a reputable gambling site, it will not allow gamblers to gamble using the funds that might came from a bad source, that’s why KYC is being asked here.

We should b ready that centralized platforms can ask for KYC anytime and Duelbits had already stated this in the terms that they can demand for KYC anytime. Most of the gambling sites have the same policy about KYC and hence OP should stop playing gambling if he is too much curious about KYC. There are not a lot of gambling options without KYC unless you want to take risks with new gambling sites which may turn out to be an altogether scam.
hero member
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Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.
This is the common practice and if there’s a changes, gamblers will notify right away. Probably, because of long details gamblers didn’t make any time to understand the terms and conditions as long as they are allowed to create an account without having any KYC, and this is why many are not aware about this. If Duelbits freeze your account and ask for a KYC, there’s a reason behind it and the only way to solve that problem is to cooperate.
It is not an excuse not to read the terms and conditions, even if its long paragraph you still need to understand it because it will be your guide on the site and by this you can know what to do and not to do, have some time for this because it’s also important. Duelbits is a reputable gambling site, it will not allow gamblers to gamble using the funds that might came from a bad source, that’s why KYC is being asked here.

Or Duelbits just wanted to make sure that they are not using the platform to wash away dirty money. That's why when you deposit, you will have at least to play some. But yes, it is structured in every casino's TOS that they might ask for KYC for further verification.

This is the market that we live in, and I would say that the media put a lot of bad rep for us and that's why this KYC became a mandate, including for gambling platform, it is unfortunate but we have to follow it, rules is rules.
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Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.
This is the common practice and if there’s a changes, gamblers will notify right away. Probably, because of long details gamblers didn’t make any time to understand the terms and conditions as long as they are allowed to create an account without having any KYC, and this is why many are not aware about this. If Duelbits freeze your account and ask for a KYC, there’s a reason behind it and the only way to solve that problem is to cooperate.
It is not an excuse not to read the terms and conditions, even if its long paragraph you still need to understand it because it will be your guide on the site and by this you can know what to do and not to do, have some time for this because it’s also important. Duelbits is a reputable gambling site, it will not allow gamblers to gamble using the funds that might came from a bad source, that’s why KYC is being asked here.
hero member
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Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.
^ We should read the ToS because there are some casinos that they use their ToS as a trap to the users and they are happy with that, imagine they can seize your money anytime. They will not process your withdrawal since you are not a fully verified user or with this ToS, they will selectively scam people knowing the case is just because the player did know about the violation process.
This is not new, every platform now that is related to finance was have that KYC process and probably to push this money laundering law. So get ready with the KYC.
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Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.
This is the common practice and if there’s a changes, gamblers will notify right away. Probably, because of long details gamblers didn’t make any time to understand the terms and conditions as long as they are allowed to create an account without having any KYC, and this is why many are not aware about this. If Duelbits freeze your account and ask for a KYC, there’s a reason behind it and the only way to solve that problem is to cooperate.
hero member
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Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.
hero member
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I don't think that All Casinos required kyc only for mistake or violate the rules. Sometimes money laundering is done by these gambling websites, I have come across many casinos that require KYC to avoid money laundering when withdrawing large amounts of funds. So All investors should read the rules carefully before investing.
They do that to know the person that has sent some huge funds into their casino without playing and then wants to withdraw. That's the cause of the sudden questioning and requirement of these casinos for KYC.

No casino today is kyc-free and all of them has to comply to the rule of the country that they're found.

It's part of the rule of the government that they want to secure the funds coming in to them and that's why when there's a sudden transaction that deposited and then eventually wants to cash out without any activity, that's where they flag a kyc to that user.
sr. member
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My question is are you kyc there and having problems with withdrawals?
I think you didn't read their rules properly. because as far as I know almost all online casinos apply KYC but not to steal identity, just to confirm that you really exist.
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I don't think that All Casinos required kyc only for mistake or violate the rules. Sometimes money laundering is done by these gambling websites, I have come across many casinos that require KYC to avoid money laundering when withdrawing large amounts of funds. So All investors should read the rules carefully before investing.
hero member
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I am just tired of everybody repeating the same statement over and over again for a thousand times that O.P was too lazy to read all the rules before registering for a casino. But to be frankly speaking, how many gamblers this day read the entire "Terms and conditions" of a casino before registering an account? Because I'm sure only 1% or 2% or even non does that. I guess what O.P did was that he  refuse to check for the most required features needed for his choice of casino before, "No KYC" before proceeding to fund and play, and later when trying to withdraw, came to find out that he needed KYC, which he never opted for.
Which is a lesson to any one trying to gamble, to check if a casino has your taste of features before proceeding
LOL

Why you're just the same like the other users who suggest to check the TOS of the casino? your post doesn't have any point. If most people doesn't read the whole TOS before playing, then no one should blame the casino. It's shame to see @OP here complaining the casino which doesn't wrong at all.

Then what do you think about the solution? if any casinos start asking the KYC in the beginning of sign up new accounts, obviously many people wouldn't want to play since the other casinos are offering "mandatory KYC"
hero member
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

hey OP , it 's natural for a casino to ask for KYC , moreover KYC is only basic not in detail like an exchange , are you too lazy to read the rules before you enter a casino ?

I am just tired of everybody repeating the same statement over and over again for a thousand times that O.P was too lazy to read all the rules before registering for a casino. But to be frankly speaking, how many gamblers this day read the entire "Terms and conditions" of a casino before registering an account? Because I'm sure only 1% or 2% or even non does that. I guess what O.P did was that he  refuse to check for the most required features needed for his choice of casino before, "No KYC" before proceeding to fund and play, and later when trying to withdraw, came to find out that he needed KYC, which he never opted for.
Which is a lesson to any one trying to gamble, to check if a casino has your taste of features before proceeding
hero member
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KYC can be asked for all sorts of reasons, we don't need to violate ToS to be asked for verification! Simple moving funds too fast you touch the AML policy and you can be asked for KYC! Anyway, it's not a big deal if someone is honest!
It's possible that he has made a mistake/violated part of the TOS so some accounts have to verify KYC early due to his alleged abuse or suspected account, but whatever the speculation of the main cause we should review the TOS again because he should have completed the KYC before making any withdrawals.
Obviously OP is just trolling here and don’t really have no problem with the site because he can’t give any proof for this and he has been accusing many sites already. KYC can always be ask and it’s stated very clear in all casinos because the casinos also want to protect their own interest and if they let those gamblers to withdraw big money easily then casinos might face bigger problem later on. KYC is still an issue here but eventually gamblers will get used to that especially if there’s a big money involve.

Actually KYC is not really an issue since by now this is normal thing to happen especially when a user try to withdraw a huge amount then a KYC procedure may ask for verification process or even if you have violation then casino ask this for also sort of verification so theres no really a big deal on this issue maybe op is just exaggerated about this that's why he post this out of his confusion towards the happening on his account.
^That is why as a gambler, don't forget to read the ToS very carefully and understand their terms.
It was stated there, (We may ask for additional Information according to our AML/KYC Policy for KYC purposes or for legal purposes (Money laundering prevention)., https://duelbits.com/tos .
Sometimes people rush to gamble without knowing the terms, and once they violated the terms they act like a victim and call the casino it scam while it is clear that it is their fault.

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