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Topic: DUELBITS ASK FOR KYC WHEN YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR EARNED PROFITS - page 8. (Read 6210 times)

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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

The fact that KYC means disclosing some of our important information then maybe some gamblers tend to refuse to do KYC. But this is the trend now, even the most reputable gambling casinos have already required KYC, so it’s up to us if we will still gamble on their sites or not. However, the OP might have misunderstood Duelbits rules and policies and so he is not in favor in it. But for most of the gamblers here, even myself, I find Duelbits just fine to gamble.

Obviously Duelbits is a great casino to play at, but which casino does not require KYC and is trustworthy? which one? If along the way you may run into a casino that says that they do not have or require the KYC, but that they can ask for the KYC when it is to withdraw, and it may happen that when they comply with the KYC they do not approve it and do not give the money.

In Duelbits things are more transparent, the KYC is soft, it is not as aggressive as in other sites, if a person has problems with the KYC it is because they must send it properly, be as sincere as possible, if there is this type of care, no there must be some problem.

When a casino determines that there are problems in the KYC it is because there is something strange and that is what they let you know.
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For every gambling platform asking kyc is not a bad things, it is their rules and policy where the players or gamblers
should abide it. Especially if the platform is legitimate in this business industry. Although, I never try to play in the Duelbits,
but according to my research it is one of the legit gambling platform here in the cryptocurrency.

Moreover, I think you have a also a bad history and record in spreading FUD about the casino platform
according to your negative trust in which was given by Sir@yahoo where one of the reputable Bounty Managers
here in the forum.
legendary
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An exchange or gambling site may ask for KYC during withdrawal. It is common when a user violates their rules. Most sites only ask for kyc when a user has money laundered by exceeding their withdrawal limit. Or when someone breaks the rules . It sounds like one of these happened to you so the site asked you to kyc .
KYC can be asked not because you violate the rules, its just that the site is taking care the security of the platform since laundering can be a thing if they allow the gamblers to withdraw easily.

This is another accusation made by OP against another gambling site, how can we trust if there’s no given proof? This might be a propaganda to ruin the reputation of a good site, don’t believe on this and look at the trust rating of OP.
I seen op profile feedback given by Yahoo. It looks like the op is trying to make a false accusation against DUELBITS. Although he has done similar deals with other casinos before.  The result of which we can understand by looking at the reason of negative trust in his profile. On the other hand I know DUELBITS as a good casino site. I don't think they treat their users unfairly.

A user like that doesn't have credibility towards his accusation against successful casino and I guess maybe this is another attack so that they can confuse people about the current state of example duelbits. This kind of attack will not really work because for sure the readers are now open minded toward right or wrong so accusations like this will just ignore if no basis to support his claims against duelbits and other more casino.
A valid proof is required to report a site as a scam or anything bad. No report is effective without proper evidence. The op here just posted what he made up.  But did not post any kind of proof, any kind of screenshot.  By which his complaint may be valid. So I don't think his post has any value here

We all know by simple inspection that most sites sometimes require KYC in a withdrawal, this is something that should not take us by surprise, if at any time that happens it is because it is established in the regulations, and if so, many must be complied with. They know that it is also due to the licenses that they must do it, however when we take into account everything that has been said, what is handled in a casino is money, and in part the casinos must cover their backs with KYC, we do not know If the player's account is being hacked, on some occasions they have requested KYC from me in casinos and in Exchanges, I already see it as something normal, however I think it is a way for them to have control without anything going wrong

Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

The fact that KYC means disclosing some of our important information then maybe some gamblers tend to refuse to do KYC. But this is the trend now, even the most reputable gambling casinos have already required KYC, so it’s up to us if we will still gamble on their sites or not. However, the OP might have misunderstood Duelbits rules and policies and so he is not in favor in it. But for most of the gamblers here, even myself, I find Duelbits just fine to gamble.

Well the fact that they want to divulge our data I can think of casinos that are relatively new, in our forum this casino has a good reputation and you can also guess that it receives advice from one of the best campaign managers, and that for me is a sufficient guarantee as to trust this casino, as much as to provide KYC, however I respect the position of every member who does not want or accept KYC under any circumstances, but to tell the truth, not only in this casino, but in the majority that they are highly reputable and always require KYC and that is something that would be very difficult to avoid.
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

The fact that KYC means disclosing some of our important information then maybe some gamblers tend to refuse to do KYC. But this is the trend now, even the most reputable gambling casinos have already required KYC, so it’s up to us if we will still gamble on their sites or not. However, the OP might have misunderstood Duelbits rules and policies and so he is not in favor in it. But for most of the gamblers here, even myself, I find Duelbits just fine to gamble.
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The truth is if you are leaving in the US most casinos ask for your id at the point of registration, and unless a player has some things to hide such as the motive to cheat the casino if not I don't see any problem giving out yoh document for verification. When you want to register an account at a casino always make sure to read the terms&conditions of the casino.
This is always included in the terms and conditions that KYC can ask later on to protect the interest of the site and of course to know if you are really quality to use Duelbits. Well, I don’t know if this case is solve already but I think OP is just really trying to ruin the reputation of the site, blaming the site for not reading the terms and conditions is not good at all, KYC can always be asked so be prepared if you are a gambler and don’t want to fill out any KYC form, you have to leave right away.
Exactly and I don't know why the member is complaining about KYC if you don't have anything to hide and you have not abused the bonus systems of the casino, if we don't go against a casino's terms and conditions then we don't need to be afraid of any KYC demand.
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The truth is if you are leaving in the US most casinos ask for your id at the point of registration, and unless a player has some things to hide such as the motive to cheat the casino if not I don't see any problem giving out yoh document for verification. When you want to register an account at a casino always make sure to read the terms&conditions of the casino.
This is always included in the terms and conditions that KYC can ask later on to protect the interest of the site and of course to know if you are really quality to use Duelbits. Well, I don’t know if this case is solve already but I think OP is just really trying to ruin the reputation of the site, blaming the site for not reading the terms and conditions is not good at all, KYC can always be asked so be prepared if you are a gambler and don’t want to fill out any KYC form, you have to leave right away.
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The truth is if you are leaving in the US most casinos ask for your id at the point of registration, and unless a player has some things to hide such as the motive to cheat the casino if not I don't see any problem giving out yoh document for verification. When you want to register an account at a casino always make sure to read the terms&conditions of the casino.
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Well, sometimes the users don't read the TOS before registering in a new sportsbook, and this is a terrible mistake because sonetimes they ban certain countries, IPs, limits, behaviours... of course, you won't have problems when making deposits, but withdrawals are different: this is a part of their business model.

But some other times you read the TOS and it doesn't say anything about KYC, but there is an statement which says: we can change these TOS at our sole discretion... so one day they make it mandatory without your knowledge.
^ That is a problem for most gamblers, they skip reading the ToS because it is a long paragraph to read.
If you are hurry to open the site FaQ sometimes will immediately enlighten you on the rules and regulations that we should be avoided to violate the ToS.
In my case, you know that this gambling casino will require KYC so meaning to say it is expected that they will enforce you to have a KYC when there is big cash out, I will not hesitate to submit my KYC because I was not hide something and duelbits casino is trusted casino.
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the strange thing in my opinion is, many crypto gambling sites currently do not enforce KYC at the time of registration but when WD they do it, it is clear that users are like being deceived by their tricks, I have never used gambling sites that require KYC, there are many sites gambling that does not apply KYC and respects user privacy.
Some people miss the TOS information because they don't pay attention to the KYC rules will be asked at any time, although the regulations on KYC are not specifically explained but each user must prepare KYC documents if the gambling platform will ask you to complete to open withdrawal access, so some users will leave the casino because privacy factor but I'm sure they will verify KYC if they have balance from slot winnings.

Most of the casino TOS has a vague description about requiring KYC which always result to complaints like this when the user win a significant amount. This is sometimes a trick to user because they knew that not all gamblers is reading the TOS and they can use it to possibly block the withdrawals of user that don’t want to risk privacy over the money.

You’re right that gambler should have that kind of mindset when playing in the casino because that’s really what the TOS implying by giving uncertain terms. The only problem was gambler is not aware on it because they ignore the read the TOS. This will fall on ignorance of the law excuses no one.
When you do consider yourself as a heavy gambler or some sort of being whale then better to mind off yourself on screenshotting the terms and conditions so that whenever there are some sudden block
of withdrawal and you are sure that you havent done something then you would really be that confident and if in case there are some alterations in terms and conditions that they had then you could
always show off that proof and thats actually a shady act by the casino. Most of the platforms that we do have today are licensed which means they do always have the right to ask out for
some KYc if they would see something off with your playing activity or shady acts.
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Well, sometimes the users don't read the TOS before registering in a new sportsbook, and this is a terrible mistake because sonetimes they ban certain countries, IPs, limits, behaviours... of course, you won't have problems when making deposits, but withdrawals are different: this is a part of their business model.

But some other times you read the TOS and it doesn't say anything about KYC, but there is an statement which says: we can change these TOS at our sole discretion... so one day they make it mandatory without your knowledge.
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the strange thing in my opinion is, many crypto gambling sites currently do not enforce KYC at the time of registration but when WD they do it, it is clear that users are like being deceived by their tricks, I have never used gambling sites that require KYC, there are many sites gambling that does not apply KYC and respects user privacy.
Some people miss the TOS information because they don't pay attention to the KYC rules will be asked at any time, although the regulations on KYC are not specifically explained but each user must prepare KYC documents if the gambling platform will ask you to complete to open withdrawal access, so some users will leave the casino because privacy factor but I'm sure they will verify KYC if they have balance from slot winnings.

Most of the casino TOS has a vague description about requiring KYC which always result to complaints like this when the user win a significant amount. This is sometimes a trick to user because they knew that not all gamblers is reading the TOS and they can use it to possibly block the withdrawals of user that don’t want to risk privacy over the money.

You’re right that gambler should have that kind of mindset when playing in the casino because that’s really what the TOS implying by giving uncertain terms. The only problem was gambler is not aware on it because they ignore the read the TOS. This will fall on ignorance of the law excuses no one.
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the strange thing in my opinion is, many crypto gambling sites currently do not enforce KYC at the time of registration but when WD they do it, it is clear that users are like being deceived by their tricks, I have never used gambling sites that require KYC, there are many sites gambling that does not apply KYC and respects user privacy.
Some people miss the TOS information because they don't pay attention to the KYC rules will be asked at any time, although the regulations on KYC are not specifically explained but each user must prepare KYC documents if the gambling platform will ask you to complete to open withdrawal access, so some users will leave the casino because privacy factor but I'm sure they will verify KYC if they have balance from slot winnings.
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

the strange thing in my opinion is, many crypto gambling sites currently do not enforce KYC at the time of registration but when WD they do it, it is clear that users are like being deceived by their tricks, I have never used gambling sites that require KYC, there are many sites gambling that does not apply KYC and respects user privacy.
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I showed the proof that i just did 2 deposits and couple of bets before want to withdraw and still people accusing of trying to scam or something like if i dont have a better thing to do😂I could understand this pirates wants to kyc me if i withdraw 10k lol but as you can see i only did 2 deposits and few bets lmao. Surely if i lost all balance i wouldnt recieve an email asking me for kyc before making another deposit , but obviuslt as i won they dont want to pay fkn pirates😂😂😂

Of course the Duelbits team knows more about the origin of the problem, because you are required to do KYC, it could be that they detected several IPs and several other accounts that registered on the Duelbits site, but if you really don't feel guilty, just do it Kyc, maybe it will solve your problem.
Speaking of money he wanted to withdraw, it was big money so maybe it was only natural that Duelbits asked him to KYC. If he's innocent and violates their TOS, he shouldn't have any problem with KYC because we already know that every casino will ask their users for KYC one day. There may be other things that are the real problem so Duelbits needs to check your account and identity. So it's up to him whether he wants to do KYC or just let it all go.
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother to use their services and they will move to another casino that does not behave in that way, however I agree that I would like for the policies regarding KYC to be as clear as possible, I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies, and while I can understand that it is also very troublesome that many players that are honest and which only want to have some fun have to reveal their personal information because they triggered the internal systems of the casino, without knowing what they did wrong for them to receive this treatment.

This has been their business strategy for some of these sportsbookers this recent years and it a wrong way of doing business in my humble opinion, this could as well turn off some of their customers from using the platform, after facing some delayance before withdrawing their funds as a result of trying to pass the KYC verification process and even some will end up not getting their funds after the whole process, this reason is base upon several complains here which I have came across regarding this very issues.
Lastly this could be troublesome for some customer that do not have means of identification,like in my country getting original copy
( plastic card) of your nation identity card is a big deal, so imagine someone coming from this side of the country that finds himself/herself in this kind of situation, that means he/she might end up not being able to get his funds. The bottom line is that, However they should make it clear and known to customer coming to use their platform in the first place , while the decision would be left for customer whether to use their platform or not.
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

While I think in a similar way, private businesses keep a great deal of their internal procedures a secret from the public and it is their right to do so, a casino may decide to be completely open about the reasons behind their KYC requests but another one may decide it is disadvantageous for them to be that clear as scammers are experts at finding flaws in any system and take advantage of it, so they prefer to keep some of those guidelines a secret to catch scammers and accounts with suspicious behaviors with their guard low, and at the end we are the ones that need to decide with which casino we feel more comfortable and we will use to gamble.
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.
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THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS
Indeed the method offered by the Duelbits gambling site, user registration does not have to do KYC verification, you can immediately deposit and withdraw, just review the Cashier area and then you just click Withdraw, obviously a withdrawal option will appear and you can immediately make withdrawals with various types of crypto, I am also one of the users who make sports bets on the Duelbits site, so far there have been no problems or kyc verification.

Seeing your topic this seems strange to me, Duelbits withdrawal procedure as far as I know is not complicated and fast, what you are saying here, of course we have never experienced it.



If this is your problem.

I showed the proof that i just did 2 deposits and couple of bets before want to withdraw and still people accusing of trying to scam or something like if i dont have a better thing to do😂I could understand this pirates wants to kyc me if i withdraw 10k lol but as you can see i only did 2 deposits and few bets lmao. Surely if i lost all balance i wouldnt recieve an email asking me for kyc before making another deposit , but obviuslt as i won they dont want to pay fkn pirates😂😂😂

Of course the Duelbits team knows more about the origin of the problem, because you are required to do KYC, it could be that they detected several IPs and several other accounts that registered on the Duelbits site, but if you really don't feel guilty, just do it Kyc, maybe it will solve your problem.
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I know that duelbits is one of the highly trusted casinos and I agree that it's the player's responsibility to read the service's To before using it but, to be honest, I've always been against asking for kyc only when the customer requests a withdrawal. It would be better to ask it from the start when the user creates an account or at least be as clear as possible when it will be requested (such as: if you're going to deposit/withdraw more than $xx, you'll need to verify your identity).
Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother to use their services and they will move to another casino that does not behave in that way, however I agree that I would like for the policies regarding KYC to be as clear as possible, I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies, and while I can understand that it is also very troublesome that many players that are honest and which only want to have some fun have to reveal their personal information because they triggered the internal systems of the casino, without knowing what they did wrong for them to receive this treatment.

Most provably that is since many hate KYC especially if the casino ask didn't have reputation yet. But in case of duelbits or other reputable casino asking KYC after suspicious activity found or having huge withdrawal and this made for verification is quite decent so I guess there's no problem with it especially if they verify your identity since this is somehow part of security measure to avoid unwanted incidents.
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I know that duelbits is one of the highly trusted casinos and I agree that it's the player's responsibility to read the service's To before using it but, to be honest, I've always been against asking for kyc only when the customer requests a withdrawal. It would be better to ask it from the start when the user creates an account or at least be as clear as possible when it will be requested (such as: if you're going to deposit/withdraw more than $xx, you'll need to verify your identity).
It is so. This is the OP mistake and there are several ways that he can choose. I don`t see a big problem to KYC and if the OP tells us truth he can solve all his problems in 1 or 2 days.
I have just one moment that can help to exclude such situations. Do KYC when the gambler just registering in casino. But this is decision of the casino and if doesn`t mean that the OP can get his deposit without KYC.
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