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Quote from: Duelbitsscamedme on January 31, 2023, 09:20:11 PM

So I will make this simple. I am a long time VIP member with over $500,000 in bets on duelbits .
Recently when I was playing on their site they did something very close to scamming so I told them that I thought they where scamming there customer and was closing my account . Before I closed my account I had a small balance left and wanted ti withdrawal . As I did this it was not much just 10.46$ they said they were going to keep my money and demanded kyc. Now this s after I have bet over 10k a week fir the last year . They got angry I called them out and then decided to demand kyc knowing I am closing my account after I withdrawal this small 10$ withdrawal.

Why did you try to continue to bet with $10.46 when your account was under Duelbits investigation already?
How did you make the $10.46 to $10k?

Do you smell something fishy here, not offend you but sorry, I have to ask these questions. You changed from want to withdraw $10.46 to bet and make it to $10k and want to withdraw $10k. If Duelbits already investigated your account when you submit a withdrawal request for $10.46, they will do the same for $10k.

I believe they have solid reasons to investigate your account when it has only $10.46 not $10k after that.

Anyway, let's wait for their representative reply about your case here or in support ticket.

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Quote from: Duelbitsscamedme on January 31, 2023, 09:20:11 PM

Hello

So I will make this simple. I am a long time VIP member with over $500,000 in bets on duelbits .
Recently when I was playing on their site they did something very close to scamming so I told them that I thought they where scamming there customer and was closing my account . Before I closed my account I had a small balance left and wanted ti withdrawal . As I did this it was not much just 10.46$ they said they were going to keep my money and demanded kyc. Now this s after I have bet over 10k a week fir the last year . They got angry I called them out and then decided to demand kyc knowing I am closing my account after I withdrawal this small 10$ withdrawal.

This site is suppose to be a large reputable casino but there behavior is a joke and beyond unprofessional.
I said I was not doing any kyc and now they have said ten there keeping the money

Proof : chat log https://pasteboard.co/KZIXfxHxWtks.png
Proof withdrawal : https://pasteboard.co/Qdrr0oQvc1mg.png

You’re 100% right it doesn’t make sense they’re doing it for petty revenge because I said they were scamming . I said I was gonna close my account and want to just withdraw the last $10 I happen to have my account time it’s a joke Amount. Why would a reputable casino ask for KYC after your closing your accoun. tThere’s many instances of Them doing stuff like this. I never looked into it but if you look at the reviews terrible.

I am happy I close my account before something happened with a larger amount of money

Can you explain more in detail why you are saying that were doing something close to scamming? They always have the right to ask to do KYC but for such a low amount it doesn’t really make senses also. The screenshot you provided just shows 1 message from the agent about the KYC thing but doesn’t give any insight on the whole situation.

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Quote from: Duelbitsscamedme on January 31, 2023, 09:20:11 PM

Hello

So I will make this simple. I am a long time VIP member with over $500,000 in bets on duelbits .
Recently when I was playing on their site they did something very close to scamming so I told them that I thought they where scamming there customer and was closing my account . Before I closed my account I had a small balance left and wanted ti withdrawal . As I did this it was not much just 10.46$ they said they were going to keep my money and demanded kyc. Now this s after I have bet over 10k a week fir the last year . They got angry I called them out and then decided to demand kyc knowing I am closing my account after I withdrawal this small 10$ withdrawal.

This site is suppose to be a large reputable casino but there behavior is a joke and beyond unprofessional.
I said I was not doing any kyc and now they have said ten there keeping the money

Proof : chat log https://pasteboard.co/KZIXfxHxWtks.png
Proof withdrawal : https://pasteboard.co/Qdrr0oQvc1mg.png

I am happy I close my account before something happened with a larger amount of money

Can you explain more in detail why you are saying that were doing something close to scamming? They always have the right to ask to do KYC but for such a low amount it doesn’t really make senses also. The screenshot you provided just shows 1 message from the agent about the KYC thing but doesn’t give any insight on the whole situation.

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Quote from: joeperry on January 31, 2023, 09:36:55 PM

@Duelbitsscamedme I don't see any problem asking KYC as in the first place it is on their terms and conditions, not because you place a huge bet in total last year doesn't mean you won't be asked for KYC. I am sure there is a reason why do they ask for KYC it's either there is a skeptical things or unusual behavior showing in the account and based on your screenshot with the support I think they explained to you that they need to determine your identity and your location.

Joe Perry you’re obviously some sort of shill for Duelbits . You literally took it out of context and then defended Duelbits. Why would they magically need kyc after I am closing my account? The reason is they want sort of petty revenge . It’s also in there tos so f they want they can steal your money if they want. But not getting into that. I really di t want to spend time talking to shill but yea I told them I am closing my acccount way before kyc . They only asked for after I accused them of scamming and I wanted to ciose my account . And my average withdrawal is around 200 to 1000$. They could have asked for anytime but magically after I accused them of scamming and closing account they are trying to steal a measly 10$

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@Duelbitsscamedme I don't see any problem asking KYC as in the first place it is on their terms and conditions, not because you place a huge bet in total last year doesn't mean you won't be asked for KYC. I am sure there is a reason why do they ask for KYC it's either there is a skeptical things or unusual behavior showing in the account and based on your screenshot with the support I think they explained to you that they need to determine your identity and your location.

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Hello

So I will make this simple. I am a long time VIP member with over $500,000 in bets on duelbits .
Recently when I was playing on their site they did something very close to scamming so I told them that I thought they where scamming there customer and was closing my account . Before I closed my account I had a small balance left and wanted ti withdrawal . As I did this it was not much just 10.46$ they said they were going to keep my money and demanded kyc. Now this s after I have bet over 10k a week fir the last year . They got angry I called them out and then decided to demand kyc knowing I am closing my account after I withdrawal this small 10$ withdrawal.

This site is suppose to be a large reputable casino but there behavior is a joke and beyond unprofessional.
I said I was not doing any kyc and now they have said ten there keeping the money

Proof : chat log https://pasteboard.co/KZIXfxHxWtks.png
Proof withdrawal : https://pasteboard.co/Qdrr0oQvc1mg.png

I am happy I close my account before something happened with a larger amount of money

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Quote from: Bitinity on January 30, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on January 28, 2023, 06:01:16 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on January 28, 2023, 04:33:22 AM

Hopefully there were no abuse on this free promo code. Although $2 is not a big amount but the chance of abuse is always there especially because it is free money without any other requirement. Maybe having a wagering requirement to claim the code will be a good option, no need to be big wagering, it can be something like a hundred dollar wager may reduce the chance of abuse.

Yeah, I agree that there should be wagering requirement to claim the promo code. Other casino often have wagering requirement to claim promocodes, other even requires $3k and above wagering amount for the recent week as wagering requirement to claim a $5 promo code. This will make players to be active and meet the requirement in order to be eligible for the promo code.

Indeed, one of the flaw of non-wagering requirement promo code is that they are easily farmed by bots.

I'm suggesting to have wagering requirement does not mean that I'm against free bonus that can be claimed by all users. Back to possibly abuse attempt for the bonus code, I'm sure duelbits is aware enough for this and I'm sure duelbits have their own way to prevent it. My main point is to suggest combination between 100% free bonus and bonus with wagering requirement because I think it will be more effective to attract new players as well as to make them play with what they get and hopefully these new players decide to deposit and become active players. Having free bonus code most of the time is good to attract new players to come but I doubt that those who come because of free $2 will be active players.

they probably have systems in place to detect cheaters too
apart from that free bonuses are usually not so big in a way that would incentivize cheating, and even if someone claim from multiple accounts and end up winning big with a small bet they'd need to KYC to claim the prize

is there anything else I'm not seeing?

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Quote from: Bitinity on January 30, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on January 28, 2023, 06:01:16 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on January 28, 2023, 04:33:22 AM

Hopefully there were no abuse on this free promo code. Although $2 is not a big amount but the chance of abuse is always there especially because it is free money without any other requirement. Maybe having a wagering requirement to claim the code will be a good option, no need to be big wagering, it can be something like a hundred dollar wager may reduce the chance of abuse.

Yeah, I agree that there should be wagering requirement to claim the promo code. Other casino often have wagering requirement to claim promocodes, other even requires $3k and above wagering amount for the recent week as wagering requirement to claim a $5 promo code. This will make players to be active and meet the requirement in order to be eligible for the promo code.

Indeed, one of the flaw of non-wagering requirement promo code is that they are easily farmed by bots.

I'm suggesting to have wagering requirement does not mean that I'm against free bonus that can be claimed by all users. Back to possibly abuse attempt for the bonus code, I'm sure duelbits is aware enough for this and I'm sure duelbits have their own way to prevent it. My main point is to suggest combination between 100% free bonus and bonus with wagering requirement because I think it will be more effective to attract new players as well as to make them play with what they get and hopefully these new players decide to deposit and become active players. Having free bonus code most of the time is good to attract new players to come but I doubt that those who come because of free $2 will be active players.

I think it's a fantastic idea to provide both no-deposit bonuses and bonuses with wagering requirements. This method will not only bring in new gamers, but it will also encourage current players to stick around and make use of the benefits they have been given. I believe this will strike a good mix between luring in new users and discouraging bonus-hunters from abusing the system.

I also think it would be a good idea to make the free bonus codes exclusive to new users or for a limited period, since this would give the gamers a feeling of urgency and scarcity. In this approach, new players who earn the incentive are more likely to stick around and play regularly. As an added incentive to make a deposit and play more, a follow-up email or message might be issued to new customers giving them a deposit bonus with reduced wagering requirements. That way, the platform and the gamers both come out ahead.

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 31, 2023, 03:13:49 AM

Setting up a budget for our gambling and playing within the limits always helps us in financial management as if we are tempted to bet more and more we are prone to loose more and above them we all know becoming addicted towards gambling has it's own bad consequences in each way and should be avoided at all costs.

This is why I do not even deposit too much, because if I deposit more, so the money is there then I will end up gambling more, but if I deposit less, and just limit myself that way, then the max I can lose is the amount I deposited, and if I wanted to gamble more, it's not just about one more bet and one more roll, it is about depositing even more money in there. Could that happen? Sure, but it's one more step that I have to take and need to wait and so forth, which could give me some time to reconsider doing that at all. That saved me from thousands of dollars being gone, if I just deposited it all, then I would have lost it instantly instead of doing slow by slow gambling.

This the correct way to go about this, before online casinos became as popular as they are now if you wanted to gamble you needed to make some time to travel to the casino, get some money, drive there, pay for parking and then you will be finally ready to gamble.

And while those steps are not complex they were enough of a deterrence for those that were not very motivated to gamble, but online gambling makes it too practical and we need to artificially add more steps to it or we will gamble more money than what we can afford to lose.

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 31, 2023, 03:13:49 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on January 31, 2023, 01:07:59 AM

controlling the gambling budget is actually better than us using money and not being controlled by ourselves, of course it will also harm us later when we lose and cannot control the game so we spend a lot of money, so play with a limited budget, for example setting aside money from our job so that when you lose there is no problem, just consider it a bonus that you spend on gambling so you don't need to be tempted by lots of bonuses and chasing unnecessary

Setting up a budget for our gambling and playing within the limits always helps us in financial management as if we are tempted to bet more and more we are prone to loose more and above them we all know becoming addicted towards gambling has it's own bad consequences in each way and should be avoided at all costs.

This is why I do not even deposit too much, because if I deposit more, so the money is there then I will end up gambling more, but if I deposit less, and just limit myself that way, then the max I can lose is the amount I deposited, and if I wanted to gamble more, it's not just about one more bet and one more roll, it is about depositing even more money in there. Could that happen? Sure, but it's one more step that I have to take and need to wait and so forth, which could give me some time to reconsider doing that at all. That saved me from thousands of dollars being gone, if I just deposited it all, then I would have lost it instantly instead of doing slow by slow gambling.

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 31, 2023, 01:07:59 AM

controlling the gambling budget is actually better than us using money and not being controlled by ourselves, of course it will also harm us later when we lose and cannot control the game so we spend a lot of money, so play with a limited budget, for example setting aside money from our job so that when you lose there is no problem, just consider it a bonus that you spend on gambling so you don't need to be tempted by lots of bonuses and chasing unnecessary

Setting up a budget for our gambling and playing within the limits always helps us in financial management as if we are tempted to bet more and more we are prone to loose more and above them we all know becoming addicted towards gambling has it's own bad consequences in each way and should be avoided at all costs.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 30, 2023, 10:28:11 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on January 30, 2023, 09:01:28 PM

Well, yes it's not good to chase the wagering requirement just to become eligible if you know to yourself that you can't afford it or it is beyond your budget. Like their past daily gift box promotion wherein there's an everyday challenge, I only participate if the wagering requirement is not too high and I know that I can do it while not hurting myself financially. Because there are promotions that are suited for average gamblers while others are probably meant for whales.

Choosing which one is right for the budget we have is better so as not to damage our finances or just play normally not to pursue anything including getting bonuses, because by playing it seems like we usually won't feel pressured to get profits and if we can end up with profits then it's good but if not then it won't be a problem for our finances.

And if the budget we prepare can meet the betting requirements, we can try to get that promotion and it seems that the casino also knows this because casinos often provide promotions for all gamblers, be they small or big gamblers.
The casino does this so that more and more gamblers can join the promotion and gamblers will feel that they need to try the promotion because their budget is sufficient.
Like during the last World Cup, Duelbits provided a promotion that many gamblers could take part in and because it was a prestigious event, many gamblers tried to get this promotion.
We must remember that the budget we prepare does not exceed the limit, so it does not make it difficult for those who want to have fun playing gambling.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 30, 2023, 10:28:11 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on January 30, 2023, 09:01:28 PM

Well, yes it's not good to chase the wagering requirement just to become eligible if you know to yourself that you can't afford it or it is beyond your budget. Like their past daily gift box promotion wherein there's an everyday challenge, I only participate if the wagering requirement is not too high and I know that I can do it while not hurting myself financially. Because there are promotions that are suited for average gamblers while others are probably meant for whales.

Choosing which one is right for the budget we have is better so as not to damage our finances or just play normally not to pursue anything including getting bonuses, because by playing it seems like we usually won't feel pressured to get profits and if we can end up with profits then it's good but if not then it won't be a problem for our finances.

controlling the gambling budget is actually better than us using money and not being controlled by ourselves, of course it will also harm us later when we lose and cannot control the game so we spend a lot of money, so play with a limited budget, for example setting aside money from our job so that when you lose there is no problem, just consider it a bonus that you spend on gambling so you don't need to be tempted by lots of bonuses and chasing unnecessary

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Quote from: lienfaye on January 30, 2023, 09:01:28 PM

Well, yes it's not good to chase the wagering requirement just to become eligible if you know to yourself that you can't afford it or it is beyond your budget. Like their past daily gift box promotion wherein there's an everyday challenge, I only participate if the wagering requirement is not too high and I know that I can do it while not hurting myself financially. Because there are promotions that are suited for average gamblers while others are probably meant for whales.

Choosing which one is right for the budget we have is better so as not to damage our finances or just play normally not to pursue anything including getting bonuses, because by playing it seems like we usually won't feel pressured to get profits and if we can end up with profits then it's good but if not then it won't be a problem for our finances.

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Quote from: abel1337 on January 30, 2023, 06:43:39 PM

Quote from: Emitdama on January 30, 2023, 04:35:20 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on January 30, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

I'm suggesting to have wagering requirement does not mean that I'm against free bonus that can be claimed by all users. Back to possibly abuse attempt for the bonus code, I'm sure duelbits is aware enough for this and I'm sure duelbits have their own way to prevent it. My main point is to suggest combination between 100% free bonus and bonus with wagering requirement because I think it will be more effective to attract new players as well as to make them play with what they get and hopefully these new players decide to deposit and become active players. Having free bonus code most of the time is good to attract new players to come but I doubt that those who come because of free $2 will be active players.

I would say that it would give people a reason to wager more, and that would be a good thing for duelbits, and it would also be the same amount totals, but for fewer people, or at least based on how much they have gambled and that means more money for some of the customers as well.

The only people who would be screwed by this idea is the people who do not wager much, just like me, I rarely wager over a dollar for any bet for example, but even I am fine with it. Why? Because I know that casinos are a business, and they need to realize that they have to make money from things and that is why it would be something quite good for them to get more people to wager.

That true, We should always remember that casinos are still a business that needs to make money. They are giving away bonuses for promotion in order for them to still make money. It will always depend on you on how you manage to take advantage in these bonuses. If you think that the requirement for such bonuses is too high, It means that those bonuses are not meant for low spenders and casino are targeting those high rollers that can easily achieve the bonus requirements. High rollers don't even complain how hard it is to achieve these bonuses because they can easily beat it and casinos are exactly aiming for them and as well somehow pursue other gamblers to spend more to achieve it.

Well, yes it's not good to chase the wagering requirement just to become eligible if you know to yourself that you can't afford it or it is beyond your budget. Like their past daily gift box promotion wherein there's an everyday challenge, I only participate if the wagering requirement is not too high and I know that I can do it while not hurting myself financially. Because there are promotions that are suited for average gamblers while others are probably meant for whales.

Nevertheless these promotions (regardless of it has wagering requirement or not) are always an effective strategy of the casino to keep their gamblers playing with the possibility to get the free money from them.

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Quote from: Emitdama on January 30, 2023, 04:35:20 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on January 30, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

I'm suggesting to have wagering requirement does not mean that I'm against free bonus that can be claimed by all users. Back to possibly abuse attempt for the bonus code, I'm sure duelbits is aware enough for this and I'm sure duelbits have their own way to prevent it. My main point is to suggest combination between 100% free bonus and bonus with wagering requirement because I think it will be more effective to attract new players as well as to make them play with what they get and hopefully these new players decide to deposit and become active players. Having free bonus code most of the time is good to attract new players to come but I doubt that those who come because of free $2 will be active players.

I would say that it would give people a reason to wager more, and that would be a good thing for duelbits, and it would also be the same amount totals, but for fewer people, or at least based on how much they have gambled and that means more money for some of the customers as well.

The only people who would be screwed by this idea is the people who do not wager much, just like me, I rarely wager over a dollar for any bet for example, but even I am fine with it. Why? Because I know that casinos are a business, and they need to realize that they have to make money from things and that is why it would be something quite good for them to get more people to wager.

That true, We should always remember that casinos are still a business that needs to make money. They are giving away bonuses for promotion in order for them to still make money. It will always depend on you on how you manage to take advantage in these bonuses. If you think that the requirement for such bonuses is too high, It means that those bonuses are not meant for low spenders and casino are targeting those high rollers that can easily achieve the bonus requirements. High rollers don't even complain how hard it is to achieve these bonuses because they can easily beat it and casinos are exactly aiming for them and as well somehow pursue other gamblers to spend more to achieve it.

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Quote from: Bitinity on January 30, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

I'm suggesting to have wagering requirement does not mean that I'm against free bonus that can be claimed by all users. Back to possibly abuse attempt for the bonus code, I'm sure duelbits is aware enough for this and I'm sure duelbits have their own way to prevent it. My main point is to suggest combination between 100% free bonus and bonus with wagering requirement because I think it will be more effective to attract new players as well as to make them play with what they get and hopefully these new players decide to deposit and become active players. Having free bonus code most of the time is good to attract new players to come but I doubt that those who come because of free $2 will be active players.

I would say that it would give people a reason to wager more, and that would be a good thing for duelbits, and it would also be the same amount totals, but for fewer people, or at least based on how much they have gambled and that means more money for some of the customers as well.

The only people who would be screwed by this idea is the people who do not wager much, just like me, I rarely wager over a dollar for any bet for example, but even I am fine with it. Why? Because I know that casinos are a business, and they need to realize that they have to make money from things and that is why it would be something quite good for them to get more people to wager.

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 30, 2023, 03:13:14 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on January 30, 2023, 12:05:53 AM

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on January 29, 2023, 06:13:01 PM

Beside there is no wagering requirement on this so any new accounts created can easily claim the promo code. I also tried to claim but to no avail. I agree with one of the reply here that without any wagering amount requirement to claim the bonus code, it is also possible that the free spots were farmed by bots.

Don't know at this time but duelbits has implemented this but only for the giveaway code that they spread via their telegram channel, and the terms of the wager req reduce enough abuse because only accounts that meet the conditions can claim it and even the code still works well even though it was posted for a few days, maybe duelbits is just trying to try different ways and the goal is to attract a lot of users to play in their casino.

The goal behind any promotion is to attract new players to the casino and bind the existing one as when they get any kind of promotion through these codes they get happy and wager on the games.The duelbits team is actively doing such promotion and attracting more players to the casino.

Holding promos is indeed to attract the attention of new users to start playing on the platform and to make old users become users who are more loyal to the platform so they will not leave the platform and look for other places to play and bet.
So far, the team from Duelbits has worked well to carry out gradual and significant development and progress to make it one of the best platforms to date.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on January 28, 2023, 06:01:16 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on January 28, 2023, 04:33:22 AM

Hopefully there were no abuse on this free promo code. Although $2 is not a big amount but the chance of abuse is always there especially because it is free money without any other requirement. Maybe having a wagering requirement to claim the code will be a good option, no need to be big wagering, it can be something like a hundred dollar wager may reduce the chance of abuse.

Yeah, I agree that there should be wagering requirement to claim the promo code. Other casino often have wagering requirement to claim promocodes, other even requires $3k and above wagering amount for the recent week as wagering requirement to claim a $5 promo code. This will make players to be active and meet the requirement in order to be eligible for the promo code.

Indeed, one of the flaw of non-wagering requirement promo code is that they are easily farmed by bots.

I'm suggesting to have wagering requirement does not mean that I'm against free bonus that can be claimed by all users. Back to possibly abuse attempt for the bonus code, I'm sure duelbits is aware enough for this and I'm sure duelbits have their own way to prevent it. My main point is to suggest combination between 100% free bonus and bonus with wagering requirement because I think it will be more effective to attract new players as well as to make them play with what they get and hopefully these new players decide to deposit and become active players. Having free bonus code most of the time is good to attract new players to come but I doubt that those who come because of free $2 will be active players.

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