Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting - page 2.

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Quote from: slaz26 on November 07, 2016, 11:41:57 PM

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

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Quote from: slaz26 on November 07, 2016, 11:41:57 PM

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

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Quote from: Avenger101 on August 23, 2016, 04:25:01 AM

It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/26/nearly-2000-have-died-in-dutertes-war-on-drugs-in-the-philippines-one-is-a-5-year-old-girl/
http://time.com/4462352/rodrigo-duterte-drug-war-drugs-philippines-killing/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS

On June 1, 2016 Duterte Offers 3 Million php Bounty to Druglords and dealers
http://www.rappler.com/nation/134924-duterte-bounty-drug-lords

Thousands surrenders
http://www.elitereaders.com/thousands-drug-dealers-addicts-peddlers-surrender-scared-badass-philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte/

65,000 drug pushers surrenders
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/573837/news/nation/pnp-chief-65-000-drug-pushers-users-have-surrendered-since-crackdown

Drug lords killed:

Dragon
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/28/16/alleged-drug-lord-dragon-wife-gunned-down-in-caticlan

Big time Chinese Drug lord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798118/big-time-chinese-drug-lord-shot-dead-by-police-in-valenzuela-city

Jaguar
http://www.tahonews.com/cebu-top-drug-lord-jaguar-killed-in-las-pinas-raid-mayor-tommy-osmena-reveals/

Bohol Druglords
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/794834/suspected-drug-lord-shot-dead-in-tagbilaran-city
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/568900/news/regions/cops-kill-another-suspected-drug-lord-4-others-in-bohol

Leyte Druglord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/805414/alleged-drug-lord-in-leyte-prison-shot-dead-during-raid

Druglords that surrenders

http://www.filipinewsph.com/2016/08/quezon-biggest-drug-lord-surrenders.html
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/804164/top-cebu-drug-lord-surrenders-to-bato
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/791759/bohol-drug-lord-surrenders-amid-daily-killing-of-traffickers
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/07/16/PDEA-Suspected-drug-lord-Peter-Lim-surrenders-to-Duterte.html
http://www.mb.com.ph/quezons-biggest-drug-lord-athel-alcala-surrenders/

Druglords arrested
http://www.philstar.com/region/2015/03/06/1430654/cidg-8-arrests-one-leytes-big-time-drug-lords-12-others
http://www.rappler.com/nation/142115-alleged-chinese-drug-lord-nabbed-angeles-pampanga

Its really a good progress among the other previous pres. Duterte is a well respected man even before his term as president. His father image make them feel so secured and comfortable being under his judiciary. He is a good logical thinker and humor makes him more popular^^

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This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

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So is Philippines basically the Mexico of the East?

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Illegal Drugs are the biggest problem in the Philippines. Violence and crime in the Philippines starts from using illegal Drugs, of course, if you are in your normal state you will not kill someone brutally just to be able to do your bad purpose on them. Because of this, Duterte Administration is trying to solve it first to lessen the crime and corruption and to make the Philippines be a safer country to invest and visits. Indeed change has come but you need to kill some.

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Quote from: Xester on September 07, 2016, 06:40:26 AM

Quote from: saddampbuh on September 06, 2016, 11:41:46 AM

this is a great thing that is happening out there and the only way to deal with these animals, very impressed also with how how duterte told the kenyan to go fuck himself, i know some filipinos from my old job and they all love him

That is what Mr. Putin of Russia said that those drug addicts, drug dealers are animals. Human rights are for humans not for animals. Yeah almost all of the Filipinos love Duterte as he shows strength. He cannot become a puppet for oligarchs and other who were high in rank. And I just read that Indonesia were looking up to the way Duterte manage drugs on the Philipines. Indonesia have killed 3000 criminals or people related to drugs. That is according to Rappler Indonesia.

If that is true that Indonesia do the same thing on what the Philippines did to drugs, then maybe Duterte for the other country is a good president. He became a role model. I actually read everything about all his doings and how people from different country admires his way of handling his country. Filipinos, (including me) should be proud of having this kind of leader. Change has come indeed.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 06, 2016, 11:41:46 AM

this is a great thing that is happening out there and the only way to deal with these animals, very impressed also with how how duterte told the kenyan to go fuck himself, i know some filipinos from my old job and they all love him

That is what Mr. Putin of Russia said that those drug addicts, drug dealers are animals. Human rights are for humans not for animals. Yeah almost all of the Filipinos love Duterte as he shows strength. He cannot become a puppet for oligarchs and other who were high in rank. And I just read that Indonesia were looking up to the way Duterte manage drugs on the Philipines. Indonesia have killed 3000 criminals or people related to drugs. That is according to Rappler Indonesia.

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this is a great thing that is happening out there and the only way to deal with these animals, very impressed also with how how duterte told the kenyan to go fuck himself, i know some filipinos from my old job and they all love him

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Quote from: MisO69 on September 06, 2016, 07:57:33 AM

Quote from: Script3d on September 06, 2016, 06:41:10 AM

im support our president here in philippines because we need real changes here corrupted officials corrupted police these must be removed our president is making a move to remove those

Yeah he should kill the police and politicians as well.

Waiting for this to happen as we know that this is a serious matter here in our country if big fish will be assinated too fear will show up to those whos doing it.

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Quote from: Script3d on September 06, 2016, 06:41:10 AM

im support our president here in philippines because we need real changes here corrupted officials corrupted police these must be removed our president is making a move to remove those

Yeah he should kill the police and politicians as well.

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Quote from: MisO69 on September 01, 2016, 07:27:10 AM

So we should kill poor people? The only reason they take drugs is because they have nothing else. I have never been poor to the point where I can't buy food to feed myself or my family. I couldn't imagine the amount of stress that could cause someone. Most of them are likely very depressed and have other mental issues because of the failure of their corrupt government.

Nope, they had a choice. They choose to sell drugs when there are other people who are as poor as them or maybe even poorer that are making money without being involved with drugs.

Quote from: MisO69 on September 01, 2016, 07:27:10 AM

The Philippine government needs to fix itself from the inside first. I just don't think its possible for them to do so since everyone within that government is corrupt.

Let me stop you right there. We just had our election and the government officials are different from the previous ones. The previous presidents/senators are all corrupt but the new president seems to not need any cash at all. His house is just a simple one, he doesn't spend thousands of money just for a single dinner. He's all focused in eliminating the drug activities in our country, I don't think he has the time and interest in being corrupt.

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im support our president here in philippines because we need real changes here corrupted officials corrupted police these must be removed our president is making a move to remove those

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Quote from: olubams on September 02, 2016, 07:40:13 AM

In my own opinion I dont think force has never solved anything in this world. When you kill, tens are ready to to take their place even drugs lords have been killing themselves since time immemorial why would govt help them do that... What he should have done is just to cripple their activities in a renewed way and let them fight themselves...

Not true, if you kill more than they breed. There number will be negative soon. But the reality if you kill 5% and the 95% will be afraid.

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In my own opinion I dont think force has never solved anything in this world. When you kill, tens are ready to to take their place even drugs lords have been killing themselves since time immemorial why would govt help them do that... What he should have done is just to cripple their activities in a renewed way and let them fight themselves...

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Quote from: MisO69 on September 01, 2016, 07:27:10 AM

Quote from: electronicash on August 30, 2016, 01:15:13 AM

Quote from: MisO69 on August 23, 2016, 08:26:14 AM

The so called war on drugs has been waging now since 1971 when Nixon declared the 'war'. The war still goes on.. and on.... and on...... guess what, you lost and can't come to terms with the truth. So you appoint psychopaths to deal with the problems. The Germans did the same thing after WWI. Look where that got them.

The problem with the war on drugs is the pushers in the governments that keep pushing this war agenda. The solution is clear. Decriminalize/Legalize and regulate. Alternatively, kill 100,000 and keep killing for the years to come.

Its what they do this time. The previous goverment almost legalized it and now its time to regulate and its just worse for those in the drug business for a paychopath is about to kill them massively.

I'd be happy to just put them all in a mass grave actually or just feed the dead bodies to the croc farm but thAt isn't very christian. Lucky for them they still getto have a proper burial.

So we should kill poor people? The only reason they take drugs is because they have nothing else. I have never been poor to the point where I can't buy food to feed myself or my family. I couldn't imagine the amount of stress that could cause someone. Most of them are likely very depressed and have other mental issues because of the failure of their corrupt government.

The Philippine government needs to fix itself from the inside first. I just don't think its possible for them to do so since everyone within that government is corrupt.

Okay lets say they are depress but mate to tell you thats not the only reason mate. Majority here in our country use drug to last long in drinking alcohol and some are using drugs to say that they are in, gangsta wanna be. That two reason is the main reason why they use drugs. Only few had a reason for depression.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 30, 2016, 01:15:13 AM

Quote from: MisO69 on August 23, 2016, 08:26:14 AM

The so called war on drugs has been waging now since 1971 when Nixon declared the 'war'. The war still goes on.. and on.... and on...... guess what, you lost and can't come to terms with the truth. So you appoint psychopaths to deal with the problems. The Germans did the same thing after WWI. Look where that got them.

The problem with the war on drugs is the pushers in the governments that keep pushing this war agenda. The solution is clear. Decriminalize/Legalize and regulate. Alternatively, kill 100,000 and keep killing for the years to come.

Its what they do this time. The previous goverment almost legalized it and now its time to regulate and its just worse for those in the drug business for a paychopath is about to kill them massively.

I'd be happy to just put them all in a mass grave actually or just feed the dead bodies to the croc farm but thAt isn't very christian. Lucky for them they still getto have a proper burial.

So we should kill poor people? The only reason they take drugs is because they have nothing else. I have never been poor to the point where I can't buy food to feed myself or my family. I couldn't imagine the amount of stress that could cause someone. Most of them are likely very depressed and have other mental issues because of the failure of their corrupt government.

The Philippine government needs to fix itself from the inside first. I just don't think its possible for them to do so since everyone within that government is corrupt.

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Quote from: Avenger101 on August 28, 2016, 08:36:40 PM

Cebu's Top Drug Lord "Jaguar" Killed

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/571660/news/nation/hundreds-turn-up-for-funeral-of-alleged-drug-lord-jaguar

"Odicta and his wife, Merriam, met with Interior Secretary Mike Sueno on Thursday to deny their alleged involvement in drug trafficking.

During the meeting at Camp Crame in Quezon City, the couple allegedly submitted their version of a ''drug matrix'' involving lawmakers and local officials."

So after they blew the whistle on the governing body they were executed by the same people.

Like I said before, the prez and top officials in the Philippine government are all in on the take. They are all criminals and need to be prosecuted. The Philippines is beyond corrupt I would call it a failed state. The US needs to move in and clean up.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 31, 2016, 01:00:46 PM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 30, 2016, 12:42:43 AM

Based on the post above this, bryant do you still believe that criminals have no fear and they can only kill those small time? A big NO. We know Duterte very much than you coz we live here while you're not. He's not done yet. Im sure there are still next news again about drug lords have been killed. Just wait.

I can see that some of the drugs pins have been killed (either by the cops, or by the vigilantes). That is much better than killing the poor slum dwellers. Still, I believe that the most powerful drug lords may have already fled Philippines, by the time Duterte assumed power. It will be a huge challenge to bring them back, to face justice.

Du30 has revealed the Druglords pyramid. Pointed out each of them. A few of them are in the Government and it caused chaos in the government. Those that were identified but still can't be found aren't allowed to leave the country, of course. But those who have thought of this and fled abroad even before Du30's term wouldn't want to go back here until Du30's term ends. There's still a chance, though, that they get deported once they are proven that they are related to those drug lords.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 30, 2016, 12:42:43 AM

Based on the post above this, bryant do you still believe that criminals have no fear and they can only kill those small time? A big NO. We know Duterte very much than you coz we live here while you're not. He's not done yet. Im sure there are still next news again about drug lords have been killed. Just wait.

I can see that some of the drugs pins have been killed (either by the cops, or by the vigilantes). That is much better than killing the poor slum dwellers. Still, I believe that the most powerful drug lords may have already fled Philippines, by the time Duterte assumed power. It will be a huge challenge to bring them back, to face justice.

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