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legendary
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Hey MicroGuy, IconFirm, ranlo, Judge-Dredd, I see you guys got some free time, yet only Wekkel has offered help so far.

Again, I ask you guys for help to contact the devcoin miners, we can't fix Devcoin without updating the majority of miners (more than 50%). Do you want things to stay as they are? Do nothing, otherwise please put your hands dirty!

CALL for new Devcoin Project TEAM!!

I got an idea of a new asset! BUT I want to team up with people that really cares about contributing to Devcoin project long-term. The business of Devcoin is to fund creators, call them artists, photographers, free software developers, ... we should be building assets so we can fund more people and projects. That said, we can still make money with Devcoin as with any other cryptocurrency, but we should never forget about the core of Devcoin.

This is the plan:

1. Build a new Devcoin community asset
2. Hardfork devcoin: new mirrors for receiver_xx.csv files, new rewards distribution system, new countdown

If you have the skills and time to team up please PM me. So far we only have Wekkel, for #1 and me for #2, we can move faster with more team players.

If you are not helping, please keep this channel clean. Thanks!

If your creating a hard fork with new subsidy calculation please do a new genesis block. Dont tell me your going to just reduce inflation on the same chain by like 5000 percent or something because noone will ever trust to hold the coin knowing people have billions at 1 sat. Better to start fresh.
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 350
Hey MicroGuy, IconFirm, ranlo, Judge-Dredd, I see you guys got some free time, yet only Wekkel has offered help so far.

Again, I ask you guys for help to contact the devcoin miners, we can't fix Devcoin without updating the majority of miners (more than 50%). Do you want things to stay as they are? Do nothing, otherwise please put your hands dirty!

CALL for new Devcoin Project TEAM!!

I got an idea of a new asset! BUT I want to team up with people that really cares about contributing to Devcoin project long-term. The business of Devcoin is to fund creators, call them artists, photographers, free software developers, ... we should be building assets so we can fund more people and projects. That said, we can still make money with Devcoin as with any other cryptocurrency, but we should never forget about the core of Devcoin.

This is the plan:

1. Build a new Devcoin community asset
2. Hardfork devcoin: new mirrors for receiver_xx.csv files, new rewards distribution system, new countdown

If you have the skills and time to team up please PM me. So far we only have Wekkel, for #1 and me for #2, we can move faster with more team players.

If you are not helping, please keep this channel clean. Thanks!
sr. member
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Judge Dredd here citizens. I'm not concerned with the idle banter either. Just here for the DVC. Looks like there was a bit of a "dump" yesterday  Tongue

Shouldn't have set my buy order so high.
hero member
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Pleas don't mind that I do not care about your beef with MG.

I have no personal beef with him. If he wants to censor everything he touches, that's his choice.

My concern is the welfare of Devcoin only. Nothing good grows from censorship/dictatorship. DVC does not need it.
legendary
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Pleas don't mind that I do not care about your beef with MG.
hero member
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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
@MG - Erm....that's not my account you are referring to - but thank you for confirming that you are indeed banning users who report problems on github.

Well you must admit that Github username is very similiar to one of your other purported aliases.  Tongue


Not at all, because that account isn't mine.

There are two other account names on BCT with the "p3yot3" in them - guess what - they're not mine either. There are hundreds of BCT accounts with "micro" & "guy" in them - are they all you? Of course they're not.

Furthermore my account on github is the same as my account here. I opened my github account in order to post about the problem I was having with your coin wallet, the same problem that other users had reported there.
You deleted it of course, like you have done to others who reported it. I think I also posted log files, but you deleted them too, like you've done to others. Not only that, but you've deleted every single post by me from your GoldCoin BCT thread, weather it was related to your problematic coin or not. You even deleted a list of addnodes I posted for everyone on your thread. I mean, WTF? If that's not maniac censorship in an effort to hide your coins failings, I don't know what is.

Devcoin does not need a dictator who is willing to go to such extremes. it needs honest, transparent coders who are willing to admit when they are wrong or don't know how to fix a problem. That's not you I'm afraid.

Go fix your own coin, talk to yourself on your own massively censored thread & keep burying you head in sand in the hope your wallet problems will magically disappear.
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1030
Twitter @realmicroguy
@MG - Erm....that's not my account you are referring to - but thank you for confirming that you are indeed banning users who report problems on github.



Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=841288
Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Well you must admit that Github username is very similiar to one of your other purported aliases.  Tongue

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Anyway, it's nice to see this thread getting some life again. Hopefully, we can get back to talking Devcoin again soon! Cool
hero member
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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'm offering advice based on personal experience. Anyone who wishes to see the posts deleted by MG is welcome to PM me.

Edit:

@MG - Erm....that's not my account you are referring to - but thank you for confirming that you are indeed banning users who report problems on github.

Edit2:


I generally don't get involved with things like this as it seems like a personal matter but the information that's clearly visible to us shows the following:

1) IconFirm has a neg-rep and a claim to have a LOT of permabanned accounts already


Indeed. I have 1 neg-rep by a stalker/confirmed scammer who I have never talked to & who has a rep rating himself of -2022-11 who has posted once in the last 5 months. Read my reply to his neg-rep & draw your own conclusions, but I generally ignore rep ratings unless they are blatantly obvious.


2) IconFirm has NOT neg-repped MicroGuy


Indeed. Unfortunately the rep system on BCT is wide open to abuse (see above), so I only neg-rep confirmed scammers as a warning to other users. MG is not a scammer, that I'm aware of.


3) The only rep I see that's negative on MicroGuy is from 2013 and deals with censorship.


So it's not just me then...... Grin
legendary
Activity: 1988
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//Stuff here

I generally don't get involved with things like this as it seems like a personal matter but the information that's clearly visible to us shows the following:

1) IconFirm has a neg-rep and a claim to have a LOT of permabanned accounts already
2) IconFirm has NOT neg-repped MicroGuy
3) The only rep I see that's negative on MicroGuy is from 2013 and deals with censorship. Everyone can moderate their threads how they wish -- that's why it's an option

Also, MG has been around a lot longer. Unless there is REALLY convincing evidence that he's nefarious, I see no reason not to trust him.
legendary
Activity: 2506
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Twitter @realmicroguy
I feel I should warn Devcoin users about MicroGuy.

I am suspicious as to the reasons why MicroGuy is paying so much attention to this coin, while ignoring the issues with his own, especially given his history of deleting posts from his own coin (Goldcoin) thread from users who are reporting problems with his wallet daemon & banning them from posting there again. He is also closing/deleting posts from users who are reporting problems with the GoldCoin wallet daemon on the github repo for GoldCoin and banning them from posting again (me included):

https://github.com/goldcoin/goldcoin/issues/11  (some posts deleted also)

Any mention of wallet problems on either his BCT or github thread is rapidly deleted & the user banned. This is not how development is done & any person/dev who censors/ignores/deletes posts from users regarding wallet faults or problems should be considered dubious at the very least. There is no place for censorship in crypto, especially on github - it goes against the whole ethos of both. Any dev who deletes/censors or bans users for reporting issues on Github is doing it because they either don't know what they are doing, they don't want anyone to know about it or they have some other shady/corrupt reason.

Yes, we devcoin users need all the help we can get for this coin, but not from devs who practice such blatant censorship in trying to hide issues with code.

I can post the messages MicroGuy deleted from his threads, as well as the PM's I got from him if required, but would like to keep this thread on topic

I advise extreme caution with this so called "dev".

There is no undue censorship. The only posts deleted are those disruptive or abusive in nature. Kind and helpful comments are encouraged and always welcome. Unfortunately, moderation is a necessary evil in a world with anonymous trolls and random mischief makers. Smiley

So far all you have done is demonstrate your own fear and insecurity through baseless accusations, name calling, and paranoid conspiracy theories.



EDIT: And just for the record you're the only person I've ever had to take the extreme measure of blocking from Github. Making Github reports attacking the developers and claiming "Goldcoin is not mineable" when it has a hashrate of nearly 2 GH/s is not constructive, and downright silly.
hero member
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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
I feel I should warn Devcoin users about MicroGuy.

I am suspicious as to the reasons why MicroGuy is paying so much attention to this coin, while ignoring the issues with his own, especially given his history of deleting posts from his own coin (Goldcoin) thread from users who are reporting problems with his wallet daemon & banning them from posting there again. He is also closing/deleting posts from users who are reporting problems with the GoldCoin wallet daemon on the github repo for GoldCoin and banning them from posting again (me included):

https://github.com/goldcoin/goldcoin/issues/11  (some posts deleted also)

Any mention of wallet problems on either his BCT or github thread is rapidly deleted & the user banned. This is not how development is done & any person/dev who censors/ignores/deletes posts from users regarding wallet faults or problems should be considered dubious at the very least. There is no place for censorship in crypto, especially on github - it goes against the whole ethos of both. Any dev who deletes/censors or bans users for reporting issues on Github is doing it because they either don't know what they are doing, they don't want anyone to know about it or they have some other shady/corrupt reason.

Yes, we devcoin users need all the help we can get for this coin, but not from devs who practice such blatant censorship in trying to hide issues with code.

I can post the messages MicroGuy deleted from his threads, as well as the PM's I got from him if required, but would like to keep this thread on topic

I advise extreme caution with this so called "dev".
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1030
Twitter @realmicroguy
Regarding the problem with downloading receiver_xx files, guess that this is a great opportunity to reorganize. Those who want to help just bring in new mirrors, I can take care of maintaining the new receivers files so we start re-distributing Devcoin to the new team of contributors starting next block, along with building a new countdown.

That seems like a good idea. When I get some time I'll educate myself on exactly how the block rewards are distributed.

It might help if we could stop the bleeding of these coins back to CoinGather for a while. This list makes the current bleeding a little easier to track: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dvc/#!rich

Of course funds are needed to maintain the network. So there's nothing wrong with exchanging the reward into LTC, BTC, or USD as long as the money is being put to good use. I'll try to learn more ASAP about how this was originally designed to work. Tongue
legendary
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I got my wallet working again, by re-downloading the entire block chain. Hopefully I don't have to do that every time. I'll leave it open and running for now.
legendary
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I have create a pull request. I hope that the right devs see it
https://github.com/coinzen/devcoin/pull/33

Thanks @aatheus! It was a pleasure to merge that pull requests, I hope more to come!

People! Everyone! We still have control of the source code so we can bring Devcoin back on track. Hence I'm not a C++ expert, I know programming pretty well I can read new pull requests and to merge the right ones. Also, devtome.com might seem lost but we can always start a new wiki and build new assets.

Regarding the problem with downloading receiver_xx files, guess that this is a great opportunity to reorganize. Those who want to help just bring in new mirrors, I can take care of maintaining the new receivers files so we start re-distributing Devcoin to the new team of contributors starting next block, along with building a new countdown.

There is just a little detail here. We need the owners of hash power to jump in and update their miners, I have no contact with any of them but if you are listening and willing to bring Devcoin back to life, PLEASE HELP!

While we are on that, we can still test the new receiver files infrastructure in a test network, anybody willing to help please just say so in a private message to me, here in bitcointalk.

May Devcoin be back and stronger!

I can't help out with the mining side but I can continue to provide a mirror. Toss over links to files as needed and I'll make sure they're tossed up, Smiley.

Also, definitely up for a restructuring and a re-creation of Devtome. Hopefully more efficient.
sr. member
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Merit: 350
I have create a pull request. I hope that the right devs see it
https://github.com/coinzen/devcoin/pull/33

Thanks @aatheus! It was a pleasure to merge that pull requests, I hope more to come!

People! Everyone! We still have control of the source code so we can bring Devcoin back on track. Hence I'm not a C++ expert, I know programming pretty well I can read new pull requests and to merge the right ones. Also, devtome.com might seem lost but we can always start a new wiki and build new assets.

Regarding the problem with downloading receiver_xx files, guess that this is a great opportunity to reorganize. Those who want to help just bring in new mirrors, I can take care of maintaining the new receivers files so we start re-distributing Devcoin to the new team of contributors starting next block, along with building a new countdown.

There is just a little detail here. We need the owners of hash power to jump in and update their miners, I have no contact with any of them but if you are listening and willing to bring Devcoin back to life, PLEASE HELP!

While we are on that, we can still test the new receiver files infrastructure in a test network, anybody willing to help please just say so in a private message to me, here in bitcointalk.

May Devcoin be back and stronger!
sr. member
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Thanks for all the hard work, MicroGuy.

Indeed, well done @MicroGuy! Yet, we still have the official block explorer which is Libre Software so everyone is welcome to contribute with pull requests and feature requests:

Block explorer: http://explorer.devcoin.info/
Source code: https://github.com/coinzen/coinage
legendary
Activity: 3108
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Thanks for all the hard work, MicroGuy.
legendary
Activity: 2506
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Twitter @realmicroguy
I contacted Gliss and he added the new block explorer to Coinmarketcap.



http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/devcoin/

Now there's a "Market Cap" displayed again along with "Circulating Supply".
legendary
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Twitter @realmicroguy
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The CryptoID Devcoin block explorer is now up and running! https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dvc/

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Here are a couple of notes (above my pay grade) from Fairglu for the developers:

The wallet compiled fine AFAICT and is now synchronizing, there were however apparently two leftover debug lines in receiver.h (search for "Number of" messages) which I have commented, let me know if I am somehow on wrong code

Explorer and wallet synchronizing at https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dvc/

Please check if the information so far is correct!

Also I have not read too much on the wiki (mea culpa), but the receiver csv files do list addresses, I could tag them if desirable (and if yes, let me know the label(s))

Please give some advice on how to best respond and I will answer him.
legendary
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Merit: 1029
Update: I'm now in touch with Fairglu and working on getting a CryptoID block explorer sponsored for 1 year. Cheesy


My wallet is not syncing. I thought I'd fixed the problems. It's stuck at 17 hours behind with two active connections to the Devcoin network. I had sent some over to CoinGather and when that deposit didn't show up in my account the next morning I tried to run my Devcoin wallet again to see if the send had confirmed and that's where it's stuck hours and hours later.

Am I going to need to download the entire block chain every time I want to open my wallet? I'd rather not have to leave the wallet always on either.

Any ideas?

Did you download the 2 receiver files as outlined above?

http://faucets.cryptoplace.net/receivers/receiver_69.csv
http://faucets.cryptoplace.net/receivers/receiver_70.csv

Once the wallet gets stuck at around 4 weeks behind, close it and add these 2 files to /roaming/devcoin/receiver/

Yep. Did that. Wallet finally synced last time. Then I closed it. Now it's stuck. I'm afraid that if I just close it it will then give me the "failed to find best block" error message which will mean I'll have to download the entire block chain. again.

Hmm. When I close my Windows client, it works fine when reopened - just has to catch up is all.

I tried that. The difference is it's now stuck on 40 hours behind (before it was stuck on 17 hours behind for hours and hours). I haven't seen that there is a receiver 71 to add to the folder, and I can't think of anything else to do.
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