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Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 145. (Read 1058949 times)

legendary
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Hey sidhujag, has devcoinauctions.com stopped?

No auctions, no login (and what about my credits...  Huh  Roll Eyes )...  Grin

No not stopped planning on doing some seo with more auctions and a proper launch with an ann thread.

You cant log in?

We had a baby a few months ago thats why been really busy but I am planning on going forward. Develcuy expressed interest in doing seo for it... your bids are all still there dont worry!
legendary
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yes
Hey sidhujag, has devcoinauctions.com stopped?

No auctions, no login (and what about my credits...  Huh  Roll Eyes )...  Grin
legendary
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spreadcoin.info
The Declaration Of Bitcoin's Independence

(Click pic to go to youtube video)



Please share!
full member
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Proposal has been posted to devtome and coinzen

http://coinzen.org/index.php/topic,1039.0.html
sr. member
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What do you call a fish with no eyes? A Fsh!
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legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
Ok so i don't know if this was already brought up at all or if anything similar was tried, Do you think devtome as well as writing should sponsor photography? Maybe something like 1 share per 10 original pictures and the pictures would be rated for quality, overall look... Im not talking about family reunion type pictures but more like scenery, automotive, nature and other things people may like. Tell me what you think.
-AM
How would devcoin be rewarded for a photo business? ad revenue?

sell photos for commercial use, then convert revenue to DVC
This is what I was thinking to sell the photos online and convert what is made into DVC.
-AM
You should make a business proposal on devtome and then have everyone review to see the idea it should outline what the inputs and outputs are and be as objective as possible as well as you should do market research if it already exists or something like it etc.
full member
Activity: 387
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Ok so i don't know if this was already brought up at all or if anything similar was tried, Do you think devtome as well as writing should sponsor photography? Maybe something like 1 share per 10 original pictures and the pictures would be rated for quality, overall look... Im not talking about family reunion type pictures but more like scenery, automotive, nature and other things people may like. Tell me what you think.
-AM
How would devcoin be rewarded for a photo business? ad revenue?

sell photos for commercial use, then convert revenue to DVC
This is what I was thinking to sell the photos online and convert what is made into DVC.
-AM
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
What do you call a fish with no eyes? A Fsh!
Ok so i don't know if this was already brought up at all or if anything similar was tried, Do you think devtome as well as writing should sponsor photography? Maybe something like 1 share per 10 original pictures and the pictures would be rated for quality, overall look... Im not talking about family reunion type pictures but more like scenery, automotive, nature and other things people may like. Tell me what you think.
-AM
How would devcoin be rewarded for a photo business? ad revenue?

sell photos for commercial use, then convert revenue to DVC
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
For those of you who don't frequent our home on coinzen, Unthinkingbit is taking a step back as lead administrator, and has asked me to take his place. We're working out the details, but rest assured I will attend this coin with the same dedication that he has shown.

Congratulations Hunterbunter. We are in good hands.


.....I noticed the huge increase in traffic that occurred in round 35.  You'll see in the rounds before round 35 the traffic was at roughly 200k pageviews, then it jumps to around 600k.  I'm just wondering, what caused this?  Where is all this new traffic coming from?

Here's the traffic analytics page:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_analytics

Thanks.

You can view the page hits at https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity and selecting the devtome_analytics_xx.csv and sorting by page hits. It could be due to good promotion/high visibility links/ and/or advertising campaigns.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
Ok so i don't know if this was already brought up at all or if anything similar was tried, Do you think devtome as well as writing should sponsor photography? Maybe something like 1 share per 10 original pictures and the pictures would be rated for quality, overall look... Im not talking about family reunion type pictures but more like scenery, automotive, nature and other things people may like. Tell me what you think.
-AM
How would devcoin be rewarded for a photo business? ad revenue?
hero member
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Merit: 520
Ok so i don't know if this was already brought up at all or if anything similar was tried, Do you think devtome as well as writing should sponsor photography? Maybe something like 1 share per 10 original pictures and the pictures would be rated for quality, overall look... Im not talking about family reunion type pictures but more like scenery, automotive, nature and other things people may like. Tell me what you think.
-AM

devcoin is dead ... thats what i think.
~CfA~
full member
Activity: 387
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Ok so i don't know if this was already brought up at all or if anything similar was tried, Do you think devtome as well as writing should sponsor photography? Maybe something like 1 share per 10 original pictures and the pictures would be rated for quality, overall look... Im not talking about family reunion type pictures but more like scenery, automotive, nature and other things people may like. Tell me what you think.
-AM
hero member
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Merit: 500
Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.
@ahmed
Looking at your github I see you forked myriadcoin from zetacoin, what was the basis behind that decision?

No idea why 8bit did that. more then likely it was due to it being based on a recentish bitcoin source and having a retarget system we keppt
hero member
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Devcoins are not about value through scarcity. It is one of the few coins that aren't actually about the coin at all, and only use the cryptocurrency part as a tool to achieve something of greater value - proliferating open source and creative commons. I understand that people don't like seeing the current price, but there is a reason for it, and it's not a bad thing. Even at this price, people are still excited to release open source toys (http://coinzen.org/index.php/topic,150.msg34312.html#msg34312), and writing on devtome is still going strong (63% of shares for round 37: http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/).

The codebase needs to remain extremely conservative, and will leverage the effort of bitcoiners in that regard. As Sidhujag noted, the more complexity we add to the code, the more we have to manage ourselves and the more potential problems we create. We're not going to uniquely modify the source code unless it is absolutely necessary, especially not for the sake of price manipulation. Nearly all alt-coins that try to differentiate themselves by algorithmic rules are essentially worthless, because they don't offer enough of an advantage over bitcoins to convince bitcoin holders to transfer liquidity. Bitcoins offer enough of a difference between themselves and other currencies like the USD, or Paypal et al, to convince people to put money into it. They're backed by a strong development team, cryptography, and the largest community and network hash power by far.

The true innovation of Devcoins, and why anyone should bother investing in them, are the receiver files. These are the lifeblood of the devcoin community, and they are managed by human beings. This is as revolutionary to bitcoins as bitcoins are to fiat. The value of investment is going to depend solely on the actions of those humans, much like the stock in a company. There is an element of philanthropy here, rather than one of investment, but that's not to say someone can't invest in the coin if they think the people giving their work over to the project for shares, are giving them at a discount. A top writer might be able to earn $100/hour, but if they're writing on devtome for $15/hour, but at $100/quality, a savvy investor might realize that the project actually gains that difference. Of course, for every $100/hour writer on devtome there might be ten $5/hour writers, but there is a value there that counts.

The receiver files (and all the others) are completely transparent, and anyone can see a forum post explaining exactly when and why a person received those shares. If you think it's being handled well, then invest not in the coin, but in the people performing open source and creative commons work at a value less than their worth to the world. Oddly enough, the best writers tend to keep coming back while the poor ones tend to either stop writing or improve, so there is sustained value being created every single round.

For those of you who don't frequent our home on coinzen, Unthinkingbit is taking a step back as lead administrator, and has asked me to take his place. We're working out the details, but rest assured I will attend this coin with the same dedication that he has shown.

EDIT: Here's a chart for dvc/usd going back two years: http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/daily

As you can see, the very bottom in price has been stably higher after every successive explosive period. Anyone who invested in any of these down periods has had many opportunities to do extremely well. The satoshi price is not an issue with devcoins, or the way that it's working, but an issue with the sheer increase in the price of bitcoins over all this time.
legendary
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@ahmed
Looking at your github I see you forked myriadcoin from zetacoin, what was the basis behind that decision?
hero member
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Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.
Yeah it might be a bit more work. And really i doubt it will impact DVC much. over @ MYR, we're all struggling in a way to get more dev's, users and popularity even though its premine/instamine free and we're all working hard towards being as legit and fair as possible

Ahmed
legendary
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Merit: 1005
What files do you need to change to change the algo?

I myself am a large holder of devcoin and the ability to mine with another algo would probably bring more network hashpower as well as more coin popularity.

It depends which algo.. im not sure how much work it is. If its as simple as changing the getwork routines im all for it, but if it means changing the way blocks are stored on disk or memory then i disagree. The mining part is seperated pretty well now in the new base..

Remember that since the hash is so high it may not make economic sense to try to mine with another algo? How will you find a block when competing against asics? Not sure how multi algo works in this regard.

Also think about the fact that miners only get 10% of each block.. is it really a miners coin?  Maybr when value is realy high.. but the security is important and if the merge mined pools arent helping thrn we can investigate other algos to improve security.

You'd essentially need a version scheme. E.G. SHA256 has a block version number of 2. and Scrypt has 3, etc etc.

Each Algorithm Would have its own difficulty and so that means theres no competition between asics.

Ok so there is conflict there between sha256 blocks vs merge mined blocks vs algo x blocks... all blocks need to be stored on disk via mutable/imutable data.. this was optimized when rsnel optmized i0coin merge mining memory usage... If you can add a version and check for it when reading/writing its pretty simple but I think it may be more complicated than that... probably have to rewrite sections to make it simple to extend or integrate with bitcoin all over again.. its quite a bit of work. Is it really worth it?
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Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.
What files do you need to change to change the algo?

I myself am a large holder of devcoin and the ability to mine with another algo would probably bring more network hashpower as well as more coin popularity.

It depends which algo.. im not sure how much work it is. If its as simple as changing the getwork routines im all for it, but if it means changing the way blocks are stored on disk or memory then i disagree. The mining part is seperated pretty well now in the new base..

Remember that since the hash is so high it may not make economic sense to try to mine with another algo? How will you find a block when competing against asics? Not sure how multi algo works in this regard.

Also think about the fact that miners only get 10% of each block.. is it really a miners coin?  Maybr when value is realy high.. but the security is important and if the merge mined pools arent helping thrn we can investigate other algos to improve security.

You'd essentially need a version scheme. E.G. SHA256 has a block version number of 2. and Scrypt has 3, etc etc.

Each Algorithm Would have its own difficulty and so that means theres no competition between asics.
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