Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 208. (Read 1058949 times)

I don't know. Metastock specifically say to mention charts were created with metastock, I'm not sure what the situation is with metatrader so wouldn't want to 2nd guess. On bigger picture of copyright images on a creative commons repository, I guess that retains the origin copyright so at minimum should probably say that too but I need to look into it more.

emfox: yes I also tested small amounts and it's necessary, but seems smeagol's having issues with big one.

Correct.. on previous versions its really easy to ruplicate. If you have small payments in your balance maybe like 100.0006 or something from before and you try to spend it then it becomes high fee (max money) is default if it messes up... however on the qt ylu have a confirmation so you simply press no.

About one in every 20 or so times id see this message that the tx is too big and it uses a huge fee.. I said no and ignored.. In my wallet now since I was testimg I guess there is somr small payments in there and it always gives me a large fee when I try to send... and when I reverted the dust checking function its now fixed... further it takes 1 dvc mostly as fee unless your tx falls withon the non free section of the
block then its 5 dvc added every 1k byte of transaction size you send.. usually for a singlr payment its 6 dvc or under.. like the old client... so now it works properly I think.

We just need to mergemine with it and the pool operator seems
to not want to get back to me so im stuck waiting for him to update his dvc
node.

So is leaving the the text on the charts that says broker X MetaTrader....MetaQuotes etc.... enough or do I need to specifically mention it somewhere else in the text too?

It's not being using for big transactions, but small enough ones, and it do take away big fees.

And if no one test this on their real wallet, how could we find out this issue when release out new wallet?

OK, I compiled and run devcoind, currently nothing wrong happen, and yes when I try to send 2 dvcs out it said amount too small, and 3 dvcs it's just been sent out.  so when will it be 3 and when be 4 dvc became the min amount ?

The new code/client is still under test right? Why is it being used already for big transactions.

bitfx-trader I've used similar metastock charts in devtome articles. Found something in their forum that said ok if you mention metastock was used. I didn't actually consider the creative commons vs copyright issue on the images, that's a good point.

Edit: Also, why is this thread under 'announcements'?

Can I use charts from MetaTrader 4 in my forex/bitcoin articles for devtome? MT4 charts are widely used and shared throughout trading forums and noone has been sued/warned over it but I'm not sure where they stand re open source.

just curious... did u test this on dogecoins recently? i noticed on crypto-trade within the last day or two there was an odd "oscillation" between two prices, and thought to myself "looks like a series of 'bot trades'...."

if so, it seemed to be working, and didn't seem to have much effect on the overall trend.... the trading range of the "oscillation" was only about 1%, but there were about 50 trades... it was an interesting graph.... i should have saved an image of it

Hey guys, here's my submission for the investment plan bounty. A publicly traded business could quite easily be generated that uses its strategy.

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=ema-volatility_trading_algorithm_for_bots

It's the description and algorithm of a trading bot I've developed and have been using for bitcoins for a few months now with some success. It's intended to work with a bot but can be run manually if you're crazy enough.

I found the bug in devcoin source where sometimes it would make the fee jump to an enormous amount when sending coins, and even worse using the daemon it would autoconfirm these enormous amounts and coins would be lost in fees.

The IsDust() function was checking for initially 54uBTC amounts as dust, but ofcoures devcoin fees are 5k higher so I multiplied this dust by 5k... however seems this didn't have the intended affect as there is somewhere in the code that ends up using MAX_MONEY for fees if this dust is changed. I reverted back to the original bitcoin IsDust() and now the min amount of coins to be sent is 3 or 4 DVC... which I think is a good sacrifice for fixing the bug. I don't want to touch the function unless I know it will work for sure. It depends on the GetMinFee which changed based on our basefee/10 adding to every transaction output.

I will upload the fix to my github and you should update what you are running to this one to avoid this bug. Also notice that the original devcoin source used the first 4k bytes in the block as "free" transaction area where in bitcoin it was 27k and so I changed it to 4k to match devcoin..

Uploaded 1.0.14 win32 binary for those who can't compile: https://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/?source=navbar

My understanding of Open Source is that whatever it is (IT product, toy, artwork, literature etc) is almost always produced to meet a specific purpose or illustrate a concept/theory/fantasy. It is what happens at that point that determines if it is Proprietary or Open Source.

With Open Source works, the steps to the solution, (in IT this is the code) and the conceptual development are available for anyone else to use/adapt/change and put to any purpose they wish. (Including producing proprietary products for sale. Staying with IT; proprietary developers don't have to allow others to use their modification code when building new products based on Open Source code)

As a writer that means the work I declare Open Source and publish on Devtome can even be used on someone else's commercially purchased birthday card as long as they credit my work. *Digression warning.. That is a cool idea really..that would be like a little random happy birthday from me to a complete stranger I should write some birthday poems.

* back on track:
So anyone willing to do Open Source work is willing to GIVE that to the community because they did it and they are proud of it and it worked for them or sometimes even because it didn't work for them and they don't see any value in it until someone else picks it up and plugs it into another idea.

Either way, the code is out there for someone else to use.

An odd example is a cookbook. (Thank you to a random IRC chat for this illustration, it isnt my own, if you recognise it claim it, I dont remember your name!)

If I buy a book of recipes from the country women's association, each one of those recipes is given to the community to use. The country women's association collected them and put them into a cookbook and charged me $5 for it but they don't own the recipes (Code) even though they have full copyright over their work (the book)

Further to that illustration, I could base a restaurant on those recipes and the original Open Source developer who donated the original code/recipe gets to come and pay me for their own Open Source work along with the rest of the country women's association.

Their $5 profit on that original code is laughable in light of my modifications and I don't even have to tell anyone my recipes. I think Devcoin has a good chance of ensuring the country women's association and the original developers get just a little more recognition of their work.

the introduction article is here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=an_open_source_hi-fi_amplifier

it's a open source hardware project.... with the intent somebody with sufficient technical expertise, and financial backing could put it into production.

or a hobbyist could build it in their garage and enjoy their favorite music....

i've got somewhat of a technical question about devtome. i will be writing some articles that will include wirelists that can be imported into CAD programs, like Geda and Kicad. just wondering what the word count rules for those would be, since they are not lines i actually type out, but are generated by the cad software..... for instance:
of course, the schematics that are represented by the wirelists are drawn by me, but i don't want to tick somebody off because it might look like i'm "playing the system".... i'm just making sure somebody else can duplicate the wirelists as open source code for whatever cad software they use

Did you ever get the issue with your 10 million Devcoins being in limbo resolved? I was hoping that someone was going to be able to help you out.

Hey jdlrexy,

How can one make money by investing?  I'd suggest you add a section where "shareholders" of the Devcoin bounty fund could have weighted votes based on the stake, and the shareholders would get a portion of a bounty the contributed too, etc.

That's all you need to do to get the six shares!

That's very idealistic, and I certainly wouldn't stand in the way of your initiative. Beware, though, that right and wrong are matters of opinion.


I don't think anyone is going to get rich quick with devcoins, personally. It may happen with good speculative market timing, but overall it's the least attractive to wealth storage compared to all the other coins. The coin is actually relatively old and its price is indicative of how much the crypto-speculators value it. This can be a good thing, because it means the coin will be relatively stable in price. It may not seem that way, but compared to all the other coins that basically started at zero and are now worth up to $1000USD each, their range of trade is much, much higher than devcoins, so devcoins can be considered the most stable of the lot. Holding coins does support open source a little bit (because they can sell it at the price you didn't), but putting regular money into devcoins is something else, and that's what it needs to be more stable, and pay fair wages.

Just like the other cryptocoins, the price is determined by how much people are putting in, and how much they are taking out as a whole. The difference with devcoins, is that we know people are going to be taking it out. What's the point of saying to open source programmers (who are already doing open source work) - "Here's a reward for all your open source work, good job! But don't spend it"?

Currently I cannot use it. There seems to be a googleapi for jquery running and timing out on it. All I get is time out messages.
Ah just stopped I can get back on.

ThinkI

I know what it takes, and no it probably won't be for me b/c I generally prefer to manage my own investments. But I'm not knocking your record, effort or offering, I'm criticising the fee structure and the resulting payoff profile after asking some questions. That doesn't mean anyone else shares my view and good luck to you.

The altcoin giveaway forum has picked up some of the slack also ..


http://altcoingiveaways.com/index.php


When is this Devcoin party gonna move its way over to the Devcoin forum? Some of this content could eventually be earning Devcoin some money, instead of going to this massive forum.

http://coinzen.org/index.php

Perhaps it is my misunderstanding then.

My understanding was that we were here to support Open Source and it's programmers; their work our product. Open Source is for the whole world not for one person/entity who can see a use for a certain application.

How that can be handled in a practical way is the debate that seems lacking.

This is my first foray into a Global Currency, as crypto may be for humankind. That seems reason enough to take a breath and think things through. Do we want reward in this new age to be more of the same which we have seen in the Industrial Age? Do we want the free flow of information, which is a hallmark of the Info Age according to such far thinkers as Alvin Toffler, to be manipulated by the few? Or do we want to get it right so that others could take what is done here as a template for the future?

The shaping of this new age could come from projects like this one, if we can think outside the box of our conditioning, to derive a means by which information can be freely shared while providing a fair and equitable system of reward.

The monthly dumping makes it obvious that the vast majority are not here for reasons of political philosophy. It is not surprising then that there is a desire to get our ducks in a row... to put up our shingle... drive business to our door... drive up DVC so that more can be dumped at even greater prices.

My DVCs has never left my wallet, other than sending it to other DVC wallets. That is not meaning only recent bounty payments but going back to my first introduction to crypto.  My drive here is not to get rich quick but to be part of something that gets things right. If that is a mistaken belief on my part then you will have my heartfelt best wishes yet not my contribution as a programmer.

If we are to have that needed debate then one thing that should be a given is that the system should not be designed to pit programmer against programmer in a race to the bottom. If we can start at that point then let's open a thread on the new forum to think tank how things may be handled to achieve our mutual goals.

- Nova