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Is there a config file anywhere? My qt doesn't connect. (got it)

devcoin.conf
Code:
server=1
daemon=1
rpcpassword=x
addnode=pool.devcoin.org

that worked for me
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and you didn't see the bounties button on the menu? interesting....
legendary
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

I am going to move forward how I planned and then we can discuss changes to it once it is seen, I am not going to speculate any longer before starting as too many people have too many different ideas and nothing is getting done.  I like the idea of a task tracker and may incorporate that, but for now I'm just going to move forward with my vision and see what comments come. You can see progress by following the prototype link in my sig.

Reason I say that is I purchased the wordpress templates and I have full source distributable under gpl.. One is a task board and it looks pretty nice with all the features I described. The link is here:

http://sitemile.com/products/taskerdev-errand-task-marketplace/

We have the source so we can change it
but since its wordpress its really simple for a non developer to make changes its all cms based and with a nice backend interface.. ootb seems to do everything we need? Check it out.. I will get it
hosted if someone can give me permission to host it on their server along with the penny auction one I want to show..

The ease of use is really something with wordpress.


Go for it, WP is great, I use it all the time for blogs, not for other things though, I like more control over my other projects. See how it turns out and we will see what comes of it. Again, I am continuing on with the bounties portion of my prototype site Smiley  I am interested to see your WP implementation though!

Thanks Ijust need a place to host it.. need to install the usualy mysql and apache etc.. wordpress is the php engine and is free to download too so its pretty sweet.

I think youll like it.. What nova said about devs undercutting each other is also prob right and we could disable bidding on projects for now until maybe one day we would want to use it.

It would provide a way for:
1) Devcoin to post a bounty
2) Someome to accept that bounty and have it show to the world that a person is working on it(doesnt stop someone else from doing it) just allows us to track whos workimg on what.
3) Allows others to post what they can offer im exchange for coins.. letting people buy those services.


I went to your prototype link.. all i see is some round information and graphs?
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Unless we start bidding on per word payment for posting to DevTome it seems very unfair, to me, to expect developers to start bidding against each other. It makes more sense to have those desiring a bounty to post what they are willing to pay in DVC to have it done.

- Nova

Since as of yesterday I am the only person who put anything up on the DevBank/Cyclos site I think we may assume that the average writer is not very interested in doing anything but write about their chosen subject at the moment.
Of course a lack of promotion to writers may play a part in this.
This is not a good situation to be in and has to change otherwise developers will be justified to complain.

In any case writer bounties should go on the DevBank/Cyclos site.
There is no need for a bidding war as bounties can start low and be raised if no one takes them.

ThinkI
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

I am going to move forward how I planned and then we can discuss changes to it once it is seen, I am not going to speculate any longer before starting as too many people have too many different ideas and nothing is getting done.  I like the idea of a task tracker and may incorporate that, but for now I'm just going to move forward with my vision and see what comments come. You can see progress by following the prototype link in my sig.

Reason I say that is I purchased the wordpress templates and I have full source distributable under gpl.. One is a task board and it looks pretty nice with all the features I described. The link is here:

http://sitemile.com/products/taskerdev-errand-task-marketplace/

We have the source so we can change it
but since its wordpress its really simple for a non developer to make changes its all cms based and with a nice backend interface.. ootb seems to do everything we need? Check it out.. I will get it
hosted if someone can give me permission to host it on their server along with the penny auction one I want to show..

The ease of use is really something with wordpress.


Go for it, WP is great, I use it all the time for blogs, not for other things though, I like more control over my other projects. See how it turns out and we will see what comes of it. Again, I am continuing on with the bounties portion of my prototype site Smiley  I am interested to see your WP implementation though!
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Unless we start bidding on per word payment for posting to DevTome it seems very unfair, to me, to expect developers to start bidding against each other. It makes more sense to have those desiring a bounty to post what they are willing to pay in DVC to have it done.

- Nova

[ Edit: The question is who are we truly supporting the developers or those wanting the work done.]
legendary
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

I am going to move forward how I planned and then we can discuss changes to it once it is seen, I am not going to speculate any longer before starting as too many people have too many different ideas and nothing is getting done.  I like the idea of a task tracker and may incorporate that, but for now I'm just going to move forward with my vision and see what comments come. You can see progress by following the prototype link in my sig.

Reason I say that is I purchased the wordpress templates and I have full source distributable under gpl.. One is a task board and it looks pretty nice with all the features I described. The link is here:

http://sitemile.com/products/taskerdev-errand-task-marketplace/

We have the source so we can change it
but since its wordpress its really simple for a non developer to make changes its all cms based and with a nice backend interface.. ootb seems to do everything we need? Check it out.. I will get it
hosted if someone can give me permission to host it on their server along with the penny auction one I want to show..

The ease of use is really something with wordpress.

member
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

I am going to move forward how I planned and then we can discuss changes to it once it is seen, I am not going to speculate any longer before starting as too many people have too many different ideas and nothing is getting done.  I like the idea of a task tracker and may incorporate that, but for now I'm just going to move forward with my vision and see what comments come. You can see progress by following the prototype link in my sig.
legendary
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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.
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Does anyone know where I can find a chart showing the volume of DVC traded on the exchanges over the last 3 months? (or the data in an excel/feed form I can access) Or even better, does someone have the time/inclination to help me find this information.

I did have a look at Vicurex but its just not my area and I admit that I am not looking forward to taking the beast on even when/if I really need to.
(I will however, and document the journey in the hopes we will make it easier for those that follow but thats like five more articles away!  Cool )

you may have to look at the exchanges separately and do some math....i'm using crypto-trade, and often the volume numbers there don't line up with the price jumps, so there's an average price adjustment that reflects all of the exchanges, but i think, at least on crypto-trade, the volume graph is for local trades on that particular exchange. i suppose if you signed up on all the exchanges, you could use their api functions to feed you volume data and price data, and merge it to get a clearer picture.... even pricing data seems to vary depending on the exchange. for instance on my multibit wallet for btc, i have mt gox and e-trade prices listed for btc, and they're often different by $100.00 or more. obviously mt gox does a higher volume, so it's prices will have a wider trading range.... which gives me an idea for a follow-up to my article on day trading......
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dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

I agree, but I think the group once again is having trouble coming to a consensus Smiley

Chad
ironically that could be because there wasn't yet a simple platform to guage consensus...

chicken or the egg, have to start somewhere... Smiley


Edit:
Ok, you can see the progress (as it is developed) in the link to the prototype below. Bounties is a menu item up top, you don't have to be logged in to see it or anything. And I will be figuring out accounts and what not later, right now you can login with your devtome username, other then that (if you don't have a devtome user account) you are out of luck for the next few days. I will add local accounts sooner or later! Smiley
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I think you comment about 2-way interest underestimates the advantage of something like locabitcoin. Using it anyone can create a local market if they wanted too. As long as there is some demand for the local currency conversion, there is a business opportunity for someone wanting to make a market.
We are all about creating demand for DevCoin, so LocalDevCoin should be a key piece of infrastructure. Or am I wrong?

ThinkI
I thought I was agreeing with you. Perhaps lost in translation but there are 2 different things being discussed.

One is a broad devcoin fund or bank or exchange that makes an unlimited market for devcoiners and supports prices. I don't think this would work because I don't think there's enough 2-way interest to make it anything but a central-bankish entity. I'm also not sure it's a good idea even if it could work because it would give earners too easy an out without natural buyers, and avoids addressing bigger questions of distribution that maybe make it seem necessary in the first place.

The other is just having more open, free-market, local exchange options for devcoin - be that work or bounties or fiat (like localbitcoin). This area is fundamental so it's not possible to underestimate it.

Thanks for the clarification Smiley
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dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

I agree, but I think the group once again is having trouble coming to a consensus Smiley

Chad
ironically that could be because there wasn't yet a simple platform to guage consensus...
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This what you mean? It's not perfect data as there was a period in dec with blanks.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=dvc-btc&market=vircurex

Perfect, thankyou Weisoq!

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dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

I agree, but I think the group once again is having trouble coming to a consensus Smiley

Chad
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Does anyone know where I can find a chart showing the volume of DVC traded on the exchanges over the last 3 months? (or the data in an excel/feed form I can access) Or even better, does someone have the time/inclination to help me find this information.

I did have a look at Vicurex but its just not my area and I admit that I am not looking forward to taking the beast on even when/if I really need to.
(I will however, and document the journey in the hopes we will make it easier for those that follow but thats like five more articles away!  Cool )
This what you mean? It's not perfect data as there was a period in dec with blanks.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=dvc-btc&market=vircurex

The new version of that site is this, but doesn't give actual numbers.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/pair/dvc/btc/vircurex/3-months

I've asked vircurex before for historical data but got no reply.

dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.
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I think you comment about 2-way interest underestimates the advantage of something like locabitcoin. Using it anyone can create a local market if they wanted too. As long as there is some demand for the local currency conversion, there is a business opportunity for someone wanting to make a market.
We are all about creating demand for DevCoin, so LocalDevCoin should be a key piece of infrastructure. Or am I wrong?

ThinkI
I thought I was agreeing with you. Perhaps lost in translation but there are 2 different things being discussed.

One is a broad devcoin fund or bank or exchange that makes an unlimited market for devcoiners and supports prices. I don't think this would work because I don't think there's enough 2-way interest to make it anything but a central-bankish entity. I'm also not sure it's a good idea even if it could work because it would give earners too easy an out without natural buyers, and avoids addressing bigger questions of distribution that maybe make it seem necessary in the first place.

The other is just having more open, free-market, local exchange options for devcoin - be that work or bounties or fiat (like localbitcoin). This area is fundamental so it's not possible to underestimate it.
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dalamar96: you mean for official bounties or private ones? I know you've outlined what you're doing before but I've lost track with so many posts since then. I also posted some thoughts, and in steps is a good move to build towards something that makes the process and visibility clearer.

If it gets used for official bounties, great! That is what I was doing originally, though it was shot down pretty well about 2 weeks ago. I just write and code, if people use it they use it, if not, no sweat. Some people like the prototype I did, but it didn't take traction, so I have moved on to other things and just doing minor updates to the prototype so far. Not sure if I will do the bounty site or not, it was just something to look into at the moment. Now I am looking into the Armory I guess.
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Does anyone know where I can find a chart showing the volume of DVC traded on the exchanges over the last 3 months? (or the data in an excel/feed form I can access) Or even better, does someone have the time/inclination to help me find this information.

I did have a look at Vicurex but its just not my area and I admit that I am not looking forward to taking the beast on even when/if I really need to.
(I will however, and document the journey in the hopes we will make it easier for those that follow but thats like five more articles away!  Cool )
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Some bounty updates!

- Sidhujag gets 48 shares for the devcoin for android wallet
- Wekkel gets 8 shares for the testing post, which had some very nice images
- Novacadian gets 24 shares the forum with email

To see all earned bounties, please visit http://devticker.pw/business_bounty/business_bounty_32.csv

Also, there are two proposed bounties:
- Devcoin Trezor, there were objections so it is dropped
- Devcoin Armory, if there are no objections in three days it will go into effect
      - Conditions:
             - The person who ports Armory to devcoin gets 30 shares
             - If you can get a dev of armory to add devcoin, the armory dev gets 30 shares and the person who asked the armory dev gets 5 shares
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