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novacadian

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Quote from: sidhujag on January 26, 2014, 01:27:39 PM

Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Unless we start bidding on per word payment for posting to DevTome it seems very unfair, to me, to expect developers to start bidding against each other. It makes more sense to have those desiring a bounty to post what they are willing to pay in DVC to have it done.

- Nova

[ Edit: The question is who are we truly supporting the developers or those wanting the work done.]

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Quote from: dalamar96 on January 26, 2014, 01:31:08 PM

Quote from: sidhujag on January 26, 2014, 01:27:39 PM

Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

I am going to move forward how I planned and then we can discuss changes to it once it is seen, I am not going to speculate any longer before starting as too many people have too many different ideas and nothing is getting done. I like the idea of a task tracker and may incorporate that, but for now I'm just going to move forward with my vision and see what comments come. You can see progress by following the prototype link in my sig.

Reason I say that is I purchased the wordpress templates and I have full source distributable under gpl.. One is a task board and it looks pretty nice with all the features I described. The link is here:

http://sitemile.com/products/taskerdev-errand-task-marketplace/

We have the source so we can change it
but since its wordpress its really simple for a non developer to make changes its all cms based and with a nice backend interface.. ootb seems to do everything we need? Check it out.. I will get it
hosted if someone can give me permission to host it on their server along with the penny auction one I want to show..

The ease of use is really something with wordpress.

dalamar96

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Quote from: sidhujag on January 26, 2014, 01:27:39 PM

Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

I am going to move forward how I planned and then we can discuss changes to it once it is seen, I am not going to speculate any longer before starting as too many people have too many different ideas and nothing is getting done. I like the idea of a task tracker and may incorporate that, but for now I'm just going to move forward with my vision and see what comments come. You can see progress by following the prototype link in my sig.

sidhujag

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Would a task board make sense as a way to organise bounties aswell as allow people to bid on those?

Users will be able to post tasks they can do, and others can purchase those services. Also users can post their requests, and other users can bid on the requests. Essentially you can have your a site where people can buy and sell services or jobs or tasks. Ofcourse devcoin would be posting requests and people would bid to do work, this would help find optimal share allocation for projects!

Other people can start asking for work in devcoins then too using this thing since once it grows there would be a network of developers / writers etc who would be watching requests and as a poster I want my work done as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality.

unclejed613

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Quote from: melodiem on January 26, 2014, 10:01:44 AM

Does anyone know where I can find a chart showing the volume of DVC traded on the exchanges over the last 3 months? (or the data in an excel/feed form I can access) Or even better, does someone have the time/inclination to help me find this information.

I did have a look at Vicurex but its just not my area and I admit that I am not looking forward to taking the beast on even when/if I really need to.
(I will however, and document the journey in the hopes we will make it easier for those that follow but thats like five more articles away! Cool

)

you may have to look at the exchanges separately and do some math....i'm using crypto-trade, and often the volume numbers there don't line up with the price jumps, so there's an average price adjustment that reflects all of the exchanges, but i think, at least on crypto-trade, the volume graph is for local trades on that particular exchange. i suppose if you signed up on all the exchanges, you could use their api functions to feed you volume data and price data, and merge it to get a clearer picture.... even pricing data seems to vary depending on the exchange. for instance on my multibit wallet for btc, i have mt gox and e-trade prices listed for btc, and they're often different by $100.00 or more. obviously mt gox does a higher volume, so it's prices will have a wider trading range.... which gives me an idea for a follow-up to my article on day trading......

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Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 10:52:20 AM

Quote from: dalamar96 on January 26, 2014, 10:41:05 AM

Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 10:24:40 AM

dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

I agree, but I think the group once again is having trouble coming to a consensus

Chad

ironically that could be because there wasn't yet a simple platform to guage consensus...

chicken or the egg, have to start somewhere...

Edit:
Ok, you can see the progress (as it is developed) in the link to the prototype below. Bounties is a menu item up top, you don't have to be logged in to see it or anything. And I will be figuring out accounts and what not later, right now you can login with your devtome username, other then that (if you don't have a devtome user account) you are out of luck for the next few days. I will add local accounts sooner or later!

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Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 10:15:49 AM

Quote from: ThinkI on January 26, 2014, 08:25:44 AM

I think you comment about 2-way interest underestimates the advantage of something like locabitcoin. Using it anyone can create a local market if they wanted too. As long as there is some demand for the local currency conversion, there is a business opportunity for someone wanting to make a market.
We are all about creating demand for DevCoin, so LocalDevCoin should be a key piece of infrastructure. Or am I wrong?

ThinkI

I thought I was agreeing with you. Perhaps lost in translation but there are 2 different things being discussed.

One is a broad devcoin fund or bank or exchange that makes an unlimited market for devcoiners and supports prices. I don't think this would work because I don't think there's enough 2-way interest to make it anything but a central-bankish entity. I'm also not sure it's a good idea even if it could work because it would give earners too easy an out without natural buyers, and avoids addressing bigger questions of distribution that maybe make it seem necessary in the first place.

The other is just having more open, free-market, local exchange options for devcoin - be that work or bounties or fiat (like localbitcoin). This area is fundamental so it's not possible to underestimate it.

Thanks for the clarification

ThinkI

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Quote from: dalamar96 on January 26, 2014, 10:41:05 AM

Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 10:24:40 AM

dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

I agree, but I think the group once again is having trouble coming to a consensus

Chad

ironically that could be because there wasn't yet a simple platform to guage consensus...

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Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 10:24:40 AM

This what you mean? It's not perfect data as there was a period in dec with blanks.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=dvc-btc&market=vircurex

Perfect, thankyou Weisoq!

dalamar96

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Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 10:24:40 AM

dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

I agree, but I think the group once again is having trouble coming to a consensus

Chad

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Quote from: melodiem on January 26, 2014, 10:01:44 AM

Does anyone know where I can find a chart showing the volume of DVC traded on the exchanges over the last 3 months? (or the data in an excel/feed form I can access) Or even better, does someone have the time/inclination to help me find this information.

I did have a look at Vicurex but its just not my area and I admit that I am not looking forward to taking the beast on even when/if I really need to.
(I will however, and document the journey in the hopes we will make it easier for those that follow but thats like five more articles away! Cool

)

This what you mean? It's not perfect data as there was a period in dec with blanks.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=dvc-btc&market=vircurex

The new version of that site is this, but doesn't give actual numbers.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/pair/dvc/btc/vircurex/3-months

I've asked vircurex before for historical data but got no reply.

dalamar: I must have missed that. Personally think a site would be good to keep track and for open interest, esp when people regularly say they don't get how bounties work.

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Quote from: ThinkI on January 26, 2014, 08:25:44 AM

I think you comment about 2-way interest underestimates the advantage of something like locabitcoin. Using it anyone can create a local market if they wanted too. As long as there is some demand for the local currency conversion, there is a business opportunity for someone wanting to make a market.
We are all about creating demand for DevCoin, so LocalDevCoin should be a key piece of infrastructure. Or am I wrong?

ThinkI

I thought I was agreeing with you. Perhaps lost in translation but there are 2 different things being discussed.

One is a broad devcoin fund or bank or exchange that makes an unlimited market for devcoiners and supports prices. I don't think this would work because I don't think there's enough 2-way interest to make it anything but a central-bankish entity. I'm also not sure it's a good idea even if it could work because it would give earners too easy an out without natural buyers, and avoids addressing bigger questions of distribution that maybe make it seem necessary in the first place.

The other is just having more open, free-market, local exchange options for devcoin - be that work or bounties or fiat (like localbitcoin). This area is fundamental so it's not possible to underestimate it.

dalamar96

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Quote from: weisoq on January 26, 2014, 06:32:46 AM

dalamar96: you mean for official bounties or private ones? I know you've outlined what you're doing before but I've lost track with so many posts since then. I also posted some thoughts, and in steps is a good move to build towards something that makes the process and visibility clearer.

If it gets used for official bounties, great! That is what I was doing originally, though it was shot down pretty well about 2 weeks ago. I just write and code, if people use it they use it, if not, no sweat. Some people like the prototype I did, but it didn't take traction, so I have moved on to other things and just doing minor updates to the prototype so far. Not sure if I will do the bounty site or not, it was just something to look into at the moment. Now I am looking into the Armory I guess.

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Does anyone know where I can find a chart showing the volume of DVC traded on the exchanges over the last 3 months? (or the data in an excel/feed form I can access) Or even better, does someone have the time/inclination to help me find this information.

I did have a look at Vicurex but its just not my area and I admit that I am not looking forward to taking the beast on even when/if I really need to.
(I will however, and document the journey in the hopes we will make it easier for those that follow but thats like five more articles away! Cool

)

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Some bounty updates!

- Sidhujag gets 48 shares for the devcoin for android wallet
- Wekkel gets 8 shares for the testing post, which had some very nice images
- Novacadian gets 24 shares the forum with email

To see all earned bounties, please visit http://devticker.pw/business_bounty/business_bounty_32.csv

Also, there are two proposed bounties:
- Devcoin Trezor, there were objections so it is dropped
- Devcoin Armory, if there are no objections in three days it will go into effect
- Conditions:
- The person who ports Armory to devcoin gets 30 shares
- If you can get a dev of armory to add devcoin, the armory dev gets 30 shares and the person who asked the armory dev gets 5 shares

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Quote from: weisoq on January 25, 2014, 05:34:29 PM

Quote from: ThinkI on January 25, 2014, 02:30:04 PM

:::

What we need is a DVC/useful exchange. Like localbitcoins.com .
That way everyone can get involved.

ThinkI

:::
I don't think there's enough 2-way interest yet to sustain an exchange. But I'm not against anyone testing ideas if I'm wrong.

Something like a work/bounty exchange and something like localbitcoin would be my top picks for useful.

I think you comment about 2-way interest underestimates the advantage of something like locabitcoin. Using it anyone can create a local market if they wanted too. As long as there is some demand for the local currency conversion, there is a business opportunity for someone wanting to make a market.
We are all about creating demand for DevCoin, so LocalDevCoin should be a key piece of infrastructure. Or am I wrong?

ThinkI

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Quote from: melodiem on January 25, 2014, 07:33:10 AM

Ok... well..I dont know if regular means talkative or long time contributor but Im sure I have talkative covered Cheesy

I have enough basic php skills to manage the SQL databases for the websites I build/manage and have had to teach myself to fix errors so I'm always up for learning more. I am pretty confident I can work with the Dokuwiki format and there seems to be a heap of support articles/documentation to help as well.. Can I put my hand up for exploring this further and maybe getting it done?

That would be great but not up to me, particularly as I'm not in a position to assess the required skillset. I hope UTB and others read this, or perhaps send them a message with proposal?

bit-fxtrader: as far as I know fuzzybear is still the guy and has been doing it since before my time. It's the weekend and people have lives to lead, so maybe give it a bit more time - this round doesn't end til about 9th feb so you won't miss out for a few days wait.

dalamar96: you mean for official bounties or private ones? I know you've outlined what you're doing before but I've lost track with so many posts since then. I also posted some thoughts, and in steps is a good move to build towards something that makes the process and visibility clearer.

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Quote from: bit-fxtrader on January 26, 2014, 03:01:20 AM

It's been 3 days since I pmed FuzzyBear with my writing application. Haven't heard anything back yet. How long is the usual waiting time? Should I try sending my app to Wiser or Dinkleberg?

Last I heard Fuzzybear was not an admin anymore he
never has time. Id try someone else.

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Quote from: Wekkel on January 26, 2014, 02:52:48 AM

Got some buy support waiting below 50 Satoshis as well.

Hope it gets below 50 I got about 20 btc
waiting too.

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It's been 3 days since I pmed FuzzyBear with my writing application. Haven't heard anything back yet. How long is the usual waiting time? Should I try sending my app to Wiser or Dinkleberg?

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