Also if I am using all the wrong jargon its because its not my stock in trade, bring back plain English I say!
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Also if I am using all the wrong jargon its because its not my stock in trade, bring back plain English I say!
HERE HERE!
You have probably considered all this already, please ignore if its of no use
Rather than attempt to put Devcoin on it's own page, could other Bitcoin/altcoin/digital currencies page be expanded to include a list of forks and show Devcoin as one? OR can you work it through the programmers bio about who developed the fork?...is he well known enough to have anything written about him/he or his/her work (universities etc?)
Also if I am using all the wrong jargon its because its not my stock in trade, bring back plain English I say!
Rather than attempt to put Devcoin on it's own page, could other Bitcoin/altcoin/digital currencies page be expanded to include a list of forks and show Devcoin as one? OR can you work it through the programmers bio about who developed the fork?...is he well known enough to have anything written about him/he or his/her work (universities etc?)
Also if I am using all the wrong jargon its because its not my stock in trade, bring back plain English I say!
It's a no from from wikipedia (from 2 sources)
This can't be resolved via the articles above
"Sources used to support a claim of notability include independent, reliable publications in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations[3] except for the following: press releases, press kits, or similar works;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:42 is what I was told is the issue.
There's also the issue of 'conflict of interest', which again to be fair to them is true - particularly as I'm now writing this. But all with the best of intentions. Without notability and related content support it won't be added full stop.
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The reason the article is proposed for deletion is that it does not prove wp:notability of the subject. Wikipedia's policy is to include only articles about notable subjects. Notability is proved by citing reliable sources that significantly cover the subject, and that are independent of the subject (see here: WP:42). You did not cite any such source. Sources you've cited are: Devtome.com and Devcoin.org (not independent of the subject), some web blogs (not reliable sources) and also some sources that barely mention Devcoin (no significant coverage).
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For a company to be notable, it needs to be the subject of significant coverage by independent, secondary and reliable sources WP:CORP WP:RS. Using the company website for a reference is a primary source, its not independent therefore it can't be used to support most content.Devcoin, while it may be a worthwhile project, is not yet notable because it hasn't attracted widespread coverage, see WP:TOOSOON
'WP:TOOSOON' links to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TOOSOONThis can't be resolved via the articles above
"Sources used to support a claim of notability include independent, reliable publications in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations[3] except for the following: press releases, press kits, or similar works;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:42 is what I was told is the issue.
There's also the issue of 'conflict of interest', which again to be fair to them is true - particularly as I'm now writing this. But all with the best of intentions. Without notability and related content support it won't be added full stop.
After trying out the faucet the page said the following:
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You haven't reached yet the minimum payout threshold, so we can't send you anything this time.
Your reward has been assigned to the address 1MJ21NMydr9dNu65tga6oBDa6coiq3bRXz. You may request a payout when you reach 1 Devcoins.
Total accumulated on 1MJ21NMydr9dNu65tga6oBDa6coiq3bRXz: 0.4472838 DVC
Your reward has been assigned to the address 1MJ21NMydr9dNu65tga6oBDa6coiq3bRXz. You may request a payout when you reach 1 Devcoins.
Total accumulated on 1MJ21NMydr9dNu65tga6oBDa6coiq3bRXz: 0.4472838 DVC
Checking my wallet it is showing a credit for the transaction for +100000.00 with 9 confirmations to date. That cannot be the intention of the faucet is it? Let me know if something went amiss and once fixed the DVC will be returned to the faucet.
To be clear, only one request was made and it appears that my wallet then received a +100000.00 credit.
- Nova
That's impossible. The donations don't even amount to 100k. And the balance available on the faucet is less than 20k (and they are still there).
That transaction is for sure from other source. Congrats!
It's a no from from wikipedia (from 2 sources)
This can't be resolved via the articles above
"Sources used to support a claim of notability include independent, reliable publications in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations[3] except for the following: press releases, press kits, or similar works;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:42 is what I was told is the issue.
There's also the issue of 'conflict of interest', which again to be fair to them is true - particularly as I'm now writing this. But all with the best of intentions. Without notability and related content support it won't be added full stop.
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The reason the article is proposed for deletion is that it does not prove wp:notability of the subject. Wikipedia's policy is to include only articles about notable subjects. Notability is proved by citing reliable sources that significantly cover the subject, and that are independent of the subject (see here: WP:42). You did not cite any such source. Sources you've cited are: Devtome.com and Devcoin.org (not independent of the subject), some web blogs (not reliable sources) and also some sources that barely mention Devcoin (no significant coverage).
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For a company to be notable, it needs to be the subject of significant coverage by independent, secondary and reliable sources WP:CORP WP:RS. Using the company website for a reference is a primary source, its not independent therefore it can't be used to support most content.Devcoin, while it may be a worthwhile project, is not yet notable because it hasn't attracted widespread coverage, see WP:TOOSOON
'WP:TOOSOON' links to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TOOSOONThis can't be resolved via the articles above
"Sources used to support a claim of notability include independent, reliable publications in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations[3] except for the following: press releases, press kits, or similar works;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:42 is what I was told is the issue.
There's also the issue of 'conflict of interest', which again to be fair to them is true - particularly as I'm now writing this. But all with the best of intentions. Without notability and related content support it won't be added full stop.
Hey all just wanted to post this here for any ASCMDVCPT investors https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3849931
I have asked Kumala the operator of cryptostocks for a list or amounts of shares so I can cross reference that people do have the amounts they say they have or I can send some dvc to addresses or something to say sorry for the situation.
Fuzzybear
I have asked Kumala the operator of cryptostocks for a list or amounts of shares so I can cross reference that people do have the amounts they say they have or I can send some dvc to addresses or something to say sorry for the situation.
Fuzzybear
I would just like to say thanx to whomever it was that donated DVC to me today. It is very appreciated!
On another note, the site at http://www.madrabbitproductions.com/devcoin has gone through it's changes to CSS3 and HTML5 and added a few little things to it. It is also very responsive to tablets and phones from my testing, but if anything is out of place (other then the graphs on phones) please let me know!
Thanx!
Chad
PS. I am a little excited about the change over of rounds tonight! Hope the code holds up on the site!
On another note, the site at http://www.madrabbitproductions.com/devcoin has gone through it's changes to CSS3 and HTML5 and added a few little things to it. It is also very responsive to tablets and phones from my testing, but if anything is out of place (other then the graphs on phones) please let me know!
Thanx!
Chad
PS. I am a little excited about the change over of rounds tonight! Hope the code holds up on the site!
The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Ok, that's shakezula's installer and it should just be the same source and .exe packaged in an installer. Sorry he's the guy to ask on that as not heard of any problems previously, and sure he'll be along soon.This is nothing I've heard of before, sorry to hear you've got problems. My installer simply packages the .exe's available directly in a nice and easy to install package, this sounds like an issue with the wallet.exe itself. I'm not sure what to check though, you might try resynching the block chain? I've sent multiple large tx's today from my wallet which is the same identical .exe, one of 40K and one of 500K with no issues and only the 1coin fee.
Coinmarketcap isn't self publicity it's an independent website delivering concrete facts regarding the market cap of various cryptocurrencies! I can make some small changes to the press releases on Bitcoin PR Buzz so they look like neutral articles When I get a chance I'll do what I can - there is no way they are deleting the DVC article I'll make sure of that.
Thanks but don't change the wiki edit yet with the articles. I'm not saying all this to be personally selective, I'm as keen as you to get it resolved and spent a long time re-building the page and reading their info. When I get a chance I'll do what I can - there is no way they are deleting the DVC article I'll make sure of that.Have a look at their comments on proposed deletion page - gives fair idea of their perspective of former edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Devcoin
It's not about the source being an independent site, it's that it's a 'reliable' site. i.e from what I can gather of their terms there's no point us justifying a crypto by posting a crypto site link unless it's well known and regarded. coindesk and coinmarketcap I'll try to put in then.
edit: psybits/dalamar - added in a few you suggested and couple others I found
The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Ok, that's shakezula's installer and it should just be the same source and .exe packaged in an installer. Sorry he's the guy to ask on that as not heard of any problems previously, and sure he'll be along soon.Thanks, I appreciated your effort. I even tried to break the amount up. If I try to send 200,000 DVC it says it is over the limit and if I try to send 251,000 DVC it says that the transaction amount is too small.
This is an experimental version but you can try mine, it sends/rcv's coins no problem im using it for my wallet.
v 1.0.10
https://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/
let us know if it works.
Using this latest version, it still said that 260,000 DVC was over the limit, but allowed me to send it with an additional 6 DVC fee, which is fine by me thanks for the help.
So it was probably nearing the end of a block, the fee was higher because I think there is some logic that increases fees if your near the end of a block? Not sure why.
Coinmarketcap.com can be used to show DVC market cap in USD and to prove notability: http://coinmarketcap.com/
Here are links from the two latest Press Release which can also be referenced:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-highest-dollar-value-050000132.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/HUG1747587.html
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-experiences-value-increase-of-over-300-in-two-weeks-the-ethical-merge-mined-bitcoin-alternative/
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/
You can also reference the DVC thread here on bitcointalk.
And also the list of DVC merchants from Devtome and the exchanges which support DVC trading can all be mentioned, referenced and linked to.
Hope that helps and great work so far!
Thanks. The problem is content has to be neutral, any info has to be attributable to another viewable source, and those sources verifiable as 'respected' material (like a journal). I think content is now neutral, just factual, refs are reasonable but I think those articles would make it worse as they're self published which is another thing they don't allow. But I appreciate you listing them - just that visibility for wikipedia isn't the same as visibility for marketing.Here are links from the two latest Press Release which can also be referenced:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-highest-dollar-value-050000132.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/HUG1747587.html
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-experiences-value-increase-of-over-300-in-two-weeks-the-ethical-merge-mined-bitcoin-alternative/
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/
You can also reference the DVC thread here on bitcointalk.
And also the list of DVC merchants from Devtome and the exchanges which support DVC trading can all be mentioned, referenced and linked to.
Hope that helps and great work so far!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Core_content_policies
Not sure about the thread here or coinmarketcap, as again that's self-publicity apparently...frustrating because it means ironically that the less marketing done the harder it is to be listed, yet self-marketing is exactly what they don't allow. Need a journo to write a nice rationale article. Might be best to see what they have to say about the new version then I can ask them.
Coinmarketcap isn't self publicity it's an independent website delivering concrete facts regarding the market cap of various cryptocurrencies! I can make some small changes to the press releases on Bitcoin PR Buzz so they look like neutral articles
When I get a chance I'll do what I can - there is no way they are deleting the DVC article I'll make sure of that. The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Ok, that's shakezula's installer and it should just be the same source and .exe packaged in an installer. Sorry he's the guy to ask on that as not heard of any problems previously, and sure he'll be along soon.Thanks, I appreciated your effort. I even tried to break the amount up. If I try to send 200,000 DVC it says it is over the limit and if I try to send 251,000 DVC it says that the transaction amount is too small.
This is an experimental version but you can try mine, it sends/rcv's coins no problem im using it for my wallet.
v 1.0.10
https://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/
let us know if it works.
Using this latest version, it still said that 260,000 DVC was over the limit, but allowed me to send it with an additional 6 DVC fee, which is fine by me thanks for the help.
Not sure about the thread here or coinmarketcap, as again that's self-publicity apparently...frustrating because it means ironically that the less marketing done the harder it is to be listed, yet self-marketing is exactly what they don't allow. Need a journo to write a nice rationale article. Might be best to see what they have to say about the new version then I can ask them.
I was just wondering if you could use anything from CoinDesk or what not. I thought they wrote up something on there too.
http://www.coindesk.com/?s=devcoin
Chad
The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Ok, that's shakezula's installer and it should just be the same source and .exe packaged in an installer. Sorry he's the guy to ask on that as not heard of any problems previously, and sure he'll be along soon.Thanks, I appreciated your effort. I even tried to break the amount up. If I try to send 200,000 DVC it says it is over the limit and if I try to send 251,000 DVC it says that the transaction amount is too small.
This is an experimental version but you can try mine, it sends/rcv's coins no problem im using it for my wallet.
v 1.0.10
https://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/
let us know if it works.
Coinmarketcap.com can be used to show DVC market cap in USD and to prove notability: http://coinmarketcap.com/
Here are links from the two latest Press Release which can also be referenced:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-highest-dollar-value-050000132.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/HUG1747587.html
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-experiences-value-increase-of-over-300-in-two-weeks-the-ethical-merge-mined-bitcoin-alternative/
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/
You can also reference the DVC thread here on bitcointalk.
And also the list of DVC merchants from Devtome and the exchanges which support DVC trading can all be mentioned, referenced and linked to.
Hope that helps and great work so far!
Thanks. The problem is content has to be neutral, any info has to be attributable to another viewable source, and those sources verifiable as 'respected' material (like a journal). I think content is now neutral, just factual, refs are reasonable but I think those articles would make it worse as they're self published which is another thing they don't allow. But I appreciate you listing them - just that visibility for wikipedia isn't the same as visibility for marketing.Here are links from the two latest Press Release which can also be referenced:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-highest-dollar-value-050000132.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/HUG1747587.html
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-experiences-value-increase-of-over-300-in-two-weeks-the-ethical-merge-mined-bitcoin-alternative/
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/
You can also reference the DVC thread here on bitcointalk.
And also the list of DVC merchants from Devtome and the exchanges which support DVC trading can all be mentioned, referenced and linked to.
Hope that helps and great work so far!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Core_content_policies
Not sure about the thread here or coinmarketcap, as again that's self-publicity apparently...frustrating because it means ironically that the less marketing done the harder it is to be listed, yet self-marketing is exactly what they don't allow. Need a journo to write a nice rationale article. Might be best to see what they have to say about the new version then I can ask them.
Is anyone here a regular or old-time contributor to wikipedia? The initial devcoin page was close to deletion. I've just had a go at editing it more in line with their requirements but to be fair to them there's little we can offer today in terms of verifiabilty etc that's not just a link to a devcoin site. Perhaps having somebody with more wiki kudos get involved would help.
Coinmarketcap.com can be used to show DVC market cap in USD and to prove notability: http://coinmarketcap.com/
Here are links from the two latest Press Release which can also be referenced:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-highest-dollar-value-050000132.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/HUG1747587.html
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-experiences-value-increase-of-over-300-in-two-weeks-the-ethical-merge-mined-bitcoin-alternative/
http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/
You can also reference the DVC thread here on bitcointalk.
And also the list of DVC merchants from Devtome and the exchanges which support DVC trading can all be mentioned, referenced and linked to.
Recent large increase in DVC / USD value can also be mentioned - using http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/ DVC page as a reference. The value has increased by orders of magnitude over the last 6 months and this should be covered in the article
Hope that helps and great work so far!
EDIT: I'm really busy right now but if you have the time to make a start on some of these changes, I'll join the discussion on Wikipedia when I get a chance, as DVC is notable - and we can prove it especially with the stats from coinmarketcap and all the other refs above! From memory anyone can appeal an article deletion to a higher Wikipedia administrator - if the person managing the deletion won't change their opinion (it happens).
The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Ok, that's shakezula's installer and it should just be the same source and .exe packaged in an installer. Sorry he's the guy to ask on that as not heard of any problems previously, and sure he'll be along soon.Thanks, I appreciated your effort. I even tried to break the amount up. If I try to send 200,000 DVC it says it is over the limit and if I try to send 251,000 DVC it says that the transaction amount is too small.
The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Ok, that's shakezula's installer and it should just be the same source and .exe packaged in an installer. Sorry he's the guy to ask on that as not heard of any problems previously, and sure he'll be along soon. Quick question. I was attempting to send DVC for the first time yesterday from the new wallet and it allowed me to send 150,000, when I tried to send other amounts anything over 2,000 produced an error saying that the amount was over the limit? Has anyone else ran into this and is there anyway for me to fix it?
Can anyone please help me with this? Yesterday 5000 DVC was too much and today 250,000 DVC is too little?!?
I'm attempting to support the spend devcoin sites, but I can't get the wallet to accept the amount. Thanks.The one developed by sidhujag, I believe its the most recent one added to devcoin.org.
Quick question. I was attempting to send DVC for the first time yesterday from the new wallet and it allowed me to send 150,000, when I tried to send other amounts anything over 2,000 produced an error saying that the amount was over the limit? Has anyone else ran into this and is there anyway for me to fix it?
Can anyone please help me with this? Yesterday 5000 DVC was too much and today 250,000 DVC is too little?!?
I'm attempting to support the spend devcoin sites, but I can't get the wallet to accept the amount. Thanks.Quick question. I was attempting to send DVC for the first time yesterday from the new wallet and it allowed me to send 150,000, when I tried to send other amounts anything over 2,000 produced an error saying that the amount was over the limit? Has anyone else ran into this and is there anyway for me to fix it?
Can anyone please help me with this? Yesterday 5000 DVC was too much and today 250,000 DVC is too little?!?
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