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newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
December 20, 2013, 09:35:49 AM
How hard would it be for a person to contribute as a writer with no programming skills?  Also, how long before other areas of the arts are supported, such as visual artists or photographers?

My only programming skills have sat on the shelf since high school. All you need is a basic literacy in web browsers, and to learn a little bit of wiki markup to make your articles look nice (which is pretty simple, and there are cheat sheets).

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax&s[]=syntax
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_advanced_syntax&s[]=syntax

While the nitty gritty backstage parts of how devtome works are more immediately comprehensible to people with various programming skills, actually contributing as a writer in no way requires that level of understanding.

I think visual and art and photography face a couple of challenges before being integrated into Devtome: One devtome is still organizing and supporting itself, though apparently its been very consistent in payouts despite that. Also, someone needs to come up with a way to measure the reward for submitting that kind of material. With words it's pretty simple. 1000 words = 1 share, with slight fluctuating by pageviews and an admin review.
member
Activity: 218
Merit: 10
December 20, 2013, 08:52:55 AM
How hard would it be for a person to contribute as a writer with no programming skills?  Also, how long before other areas of the arts are supported, such as visual artists or photographers?
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1005
December 20, 2013, 08:25:38 AM
Is this bounty still open?

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now#devcoin_usd_chart

The dvc/usd chart.

I've coded up a webserver that gets the averages from a few different places, but I couldn't find a long term history of DVC.

The chart is here: http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com

It's filling up with data as I just reset it after testing, and it'll log and show data indefinitely. If people want more options etc, say what you like and I'll code it in. I'll make a few more tweaks to make it clearer what's what, but it's up and running now in any case.

EDIT: Obviously it looks a bit silly now but that's because data's just started collecting...it should fill out soon enough Smiley

I have a database of prices if you need it.  It goes back for about only a couple of weeks though
full member
Activity: 276
Merit: 102
December 20, 2013, 06:21:34 AM
I think we should try to get DVC on BTC38.com, a chinese altcoin exchange.  I hear there is a fee they require for adding a new coin to their exchange, either we could all chip in to pay it or use bounty funds.  Also we need someone to contact them in Chinese explaining the merits of DVC and finding out how much the fee is.

If the fee is small under 5 bitcoins, we'll definitely go for it, over that we'll see. Someone, please find out what the fee is. Whoever does will get four shares.

Edit: Actually, before I promise that we'll pay a high fee, I'd like to see the volume of their altcoins compared to other exchanges like btc-e.

As a native Chinese speaker, I've contacted admin and support of both btc38.com and bter.com (another big altcoin exchange in China) via QQ, they're still not responding yet. I'll post here with any progress.


Since last time, bter has replied that they woundn't add any coins recently, and btc38 just ignored my request.
hero member
Activity: 596
Merit: 500
December 20, 2013, 05:34:12 AM
Lots of great developments going on here!

I'm just finishing up the new Devcoin web site - it will be ready to launch today! I am really excited as I think it looks amazing and I've gotten great feedback so far. Can't wait to show everyone!
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
December 20, 2013, 03:39:27 AM
I got a reply from Stephen Rowlison from Diamond Circle regarding Devcoin ATM's:

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Hi Roy,
 
Diamond Circle would be interested in supporting Devcoin on our ATM and Merchant POS network.
 
Kind regards,
 
Stephen Rowlison
CTO/Founder
Diamond Circle Pty Ltd
5B/2994 Logan Road
UNDERWOOD Q 4119
AUSTRALIA GMT+10
Mobile: +61 (0) 400 82 66 69
Direct: +61 (0)7 31075693
http://www.diamondcircle.net
Media: http://goo.gl/oWWzJj
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1531
yes
December 20, 2013, 02:32:00 AM
Good to see that Devcoin is very much alive  Shocked
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
December 20, 2013, 02:26:04 AM
Hunterbunter, since this is your first time on the bounty list, please check that your address is correct at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/bounty_31.csv

Heya, yep double checked it and it's correct, thanks.


Hello, We are both correct.

Since the hashpower of the whole dvc network varies from time to time, one block is not accurately generated in 10 minutes, sometimes longer and sometimes shorter.
As you use 10 mins as one block time, And I using average time of the older blocks (e.g. 1000 blocks before today) as block time. these two method is both ok, and the result won't be too different, maybe in one or two days.

Hey Emfox, yes I figured you must have, I agree they're both good estimates, I was just wasn't sure if I was working it out wrong Smiley.
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
December 20, 2013, 02:15:19 AM
Is this bounty still open?

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now#devcoin_usd_chart

The dvc/usd chart.

I've coded up a webserver that gets the averages from a few different places, but I couldn't find a long term history of DVC.

The chart is here: http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com

It's filling up with data as I just reset it after testing, and it'll log and show data indefinitely. If people want more options etc, say what you like and I'll code it in. I'll make a few more tweaks to make it clearer what's what, but it's up and running now in any case.

EDIT: Obviously it looks a bit silly now but that's because data's just started collecting...it should fill out soon enough Smiley
hero member
Activity: 935
Merit: 1015
December 20, 2013, 12:19:44 AM
Weisoq wrote me:

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This month there are 3 writers earning 46% of all devtome earnings (of ~30 writers). One of them is 120 shares! If your rating method is going to bound between <1 and >1 doesn't the max round share need to be cut. Not just because of the absolute number and absolute equivalent fiat but because the larger shares also serve to undermine all others.

There was a thread discussion on this and nobody seemed to object to something around 30-40, including these writers:
Wiser: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3781834
Matt608: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3782941
Markm: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3782966

Wiser even wrote a previous article on the issue:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces#capping_the_number_of_shares_per_round

Since the admins want it to be lower, the max words counted has been changed to 50,000, effective in round 31. The code only has a limit for words counted, not total shares. Because the rating can go to 1.5, that means a max payout of 50 x 1.5 = 75 shares per writer. Also the weighting for ratings has been boosted to 60%, the categorization weighting has been increased to 10% and the popularity weighting has been reduced to 30%. The other reason the popularity rating has been reduced is because advertising is cheap and can otherwise boost the popularity so much that it overwhelms the actual quality. I want people to link to their articles and talk about them, because that lasts for a long time, but advertising is a short term popularity boost that skews the earnings. The highest normalized rating of the prolific writers is 1.07, so with a higher rating weighting, the current high earners will have a lower payout.

hero member
Activity: 935
Merit: 1015
December 20, 2013, 12:07:34 AM
Emfox gets two shares for his post:

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Hello, I installed it, and my Anti-Virus (Eset Smart Security 4) said it an 'Unknown NewHeur_PE virus", and the devcoin.exe was removed. don't know what happened...

Edit: I use the one from http://dls.21stcenturymoneytalk.org/dls/devcoin/devcoin-win32.7z, also said it's the same virus. I suppose this is the official devcoin.exe ? so not the installer fault, there's something error with the original exe.

Giftculturewriting, I sent you 23 devcoins so you can see if Shakezula's version works completely, please post or message me when you receive them. You get one share for your post:

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I ran it through Virustotal and only one thing flagged it as a trojan (Dr. Web). The anti-virus on my computer doesn't hate it either. Installer seems to run fine, accesses the same %appdata files as my previous installation. Seems to be making connections and has an accurate count on the blocks according to the devcountdown site. I'm going to do a faucet test, and will update this post when I get results (EDIT: which depending on if this faucet really does only pay out on the end of the round may be a very, very, very long time).

Edit: Also noticed the same bug that the label field for each address gets cut off so I can't see the text, just a very thin strip at the top, and maybe a few pixels of the characters.

Edit: Just ran the unintaller after backing up my wallet, then restarted my computer. It left all the %appdata files, which is good for not deleting your wallet.dat file. Might be something to mention in an uninstall dialogue in case people want to remove all traces from their computer so they at least know where to look. I've just reinstalled the client and everything looks normal.

Giftculturewriting further wrote:

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On an unrelated note, I've noticed that the dvc client always takes a proportionally really long time to load, especially considering its size and (at least superficial) simplicity.

It has to download the receiver files the first time it runs. After that it should be able to grab them from disk quickly, I don't know why it would be slow then.
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
December 19, 2013, 11:17:50 PM
If I may, I'd like to submit this installer for the remaining bounty:

http://media.andarazoroflove.org/Devcoin-Installer.exe

This is a commercial-grade installer, creates shortcuts on the Desktop for Devcoin and has a brief intro to Devcoin in its about dialog.

It has full uninstall support and is built using the Devcoin and devcoind binaries from the official Devcoin site. It also contains a link back to Devcoin. Feedback is appreciated, nearly every item in the installer can be customized and I hear by pledge to maintain the installer upon future releases of the client.

For anyone with Windows, please test this installer, the first informative post (at least 50 words) gets 2 shares, and the second 1 share. Once someone posts that they used the installer successfully, Shakezula will get the bounty.

I ran it through Virustotal and only one thing flagged it as a trojan (Dr. Web). The anti-virus on my computer doesn't hate it either. Installer seems to run fine, accesses the same %appdata files as my previous installation. Seems to be making connections and has an accurate count on the blocks according to the devcountdown site. I'm going to do a faucet test, and will update this post when I get results (EDIT: which depending on if this faucet really does only pay out on the end of the round may be a very, very, very long time).

Edit: Also noticed the same bug that the label field for each address gets cut off so I can't see the text, just a very thin strip at the top, and maybe a few pixels of the characters.

Edit: Just ran the unintaller after backing up my wallet, then restarted my computer. It left all the %appdata files, which is good for not deleting your wallet.dat file. Might be something to mention in an uninstall dialogue in case people want to remove all traces from their computer so they at least know where to look. I've just reinstalled the client and everything looks normal.

On an unrelated note, I've noticed that the dvc client always takes a proportionally really long time to load, especially considering its size and (at least superficial) simplicity.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
December 19, 2013, 11:09:56 PM

Hello, I installed it, and my Anti-Virus (Eset Smart Security 4) said it an 'Unknown NewHeur_PE virus", and the devcoin.exe was removed. don't know what happened...

Edit: I use the one from http://dls.21stcenturymoneytalk.org/dls/devcoin/devcoin-win32.7z, also said it's the same virus. I suppose this is the official devcoin.exe ? so not the installer fault, there's something error with the original exe.


Very interesting! Yes, this is the devcoin-win32.7z from that same link simply packaged in to an installer. I know quite a few coins come up as false positives--could this be similar? Here's looking forward to a newer build!
full member
Activity: 276
Merit: 102
December 19, 2013, 10:35:30 PM
If I may, I'd like to submit this installer for the remaining bounty:

http://media.andarazoroflove.org/Devcoin-Installer.exe

This is a commercial-grade installer, creates shortcuts on the Desktop for Devcoin and has a brief intro to Devcoin in its about dialog.







It has full uninstall support and is built using the Devcoin and devcoind binaries from the official Devcoin site. It also contains a link back to Devcoin. Feedback is appreciated, nearly every item in the installer can be customized and I hear by pledge to maintain the installer upon future releases of the client.

Hello, I installed it, and my Anti-Virus (Eset Smart Security 4) said it an 'Unknown NewHeur_PE virus", and the devcoin.exe was removed. don't know what happened...

Edit: I use the one from http://dls.21stcenturymoneytalk.org/dls/devcoin/devcoin-win32.7z, also said it's the same virus. I suppose this is the official devcoin.exe ? so not the installer fault, there's something error with the original exe.
full member
Activity: 276
Merit: 102
December 19, 2013, 10:28:23 PM

Countdown clock - all it needs is a spreadsheet link, could probably just be added to smeagols dvc price site:
Using an old start point for calc: In A1 enter '12/05/2013  21:50:00' (date formatted, this is GMT for ref if want to be specific). In A2 enter current DVC Block. In A3 (also date formatted as above) type =A1+((120000-89150)/((A2-89150)/(NOW()-A1))). Right now that gives 31/12/2013 10:24 GMT

I agree that it's not so hard, so I suggest 12 for the first person to accomplish it, and 6 for the second.

http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/

If that's acceptable for any bounty, my address is: 1LHVxAkzcN8BzSdrT7J2W3CCpiz5Rgj72E

Edit 1: Hmm although I seem to be getting a different time to you lot - looks like I had a local time in there...fixing atm

Edit 2: Nope I'm not seeing why I'm getting a different ETA. At this present moment it's 15th Dec 14:04 UTC, there are 2106 blocks to go (120,000 - 117894), which is 21,060 minutes to go = 351 hours converts into 14 days and 15 hours. Going by this, the target date and time should be the 1400 on the 29th of Dec plus 15 hours, or 30th December at 0500. I think I'm correct.

Hello, We are both correct.

Since the hashpower of the whole dvc network varies from time to time, one block is not accurately generated in 10 minutes, sometimes longer and sometimes shorter.
As you use 10 mins as one block time, And I using average time of the older blocks (e.g. 1000 blocks before today) as block time. these two method is both ok, and the result won't be too different, maybe in one or two days.
hero member
Activity: 935
Merit: 1015
December 19, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
If I may, I'd like to submit this installer for the remaining bounty:

http://media.andarazoroflove.org/Devcoin-Installer.exe

This is a commercial-grade installer, creates shortcuts on the Desktop for Devcoin and has a brief intro to Devcoin in its about dialog.

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It has full uninstall support and is built using the Devcoin and devcoind binaries from the official Devcoin site. It also contains a link back to Devcoin. Feedback is appreciated, nearly every item in the installer can be customized and I hear by pledge to maintain the installer upon future releases of the client.

For anyone with Windows, please test this installer, the first informative post (at least 50 words) gets 2 shares, and the second 1 share. Once someone posts that they used the installer successfully, Shakezula will get the bounty.

The 6 shares were decided a long time ago, when we didn't have much money:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now#windows_installer

Today we can afford more, so I suggest the bounty be boosted to 12 shares, also Shakezula would get 1 share ongoing as long as he maintains the installer upon future releases and fixes any problems that come up. Any objections, or should something be changed?
hero member
Activity: 935
Merit: 1015
December 19, 2013, 10:10:38 PM
Emfox gets 12 shares for the first round countdown clock:

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I've done that, intergrated with my faucet page: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ you may find it on the header of the faucet.


Edit: incase of interest, here's the code, https://github.com/emfox/devcoin-faucet/commit/ea7ec0b3c1aa23e80de6441de37cc59955364892

Hunterbunter gets 6 shares for the second clock:

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http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/

If that's acceptable for any bounty, my address is: 1LHVxAkzcN8BzSdrT7J2W3CCpiz5Rgj72E

Edit 1: Hmm although I seem to be getting a different time to you lot - looks like I had a local time in there...fixing atm

Edit 2: Nope I'm not seeing why I'm getting a different ETA. At this present moment it's 15th Dec 14:04 UTC, there are 2106 blocks to go (120,000 - 117894), which is 21,060 minutes to go = 351 hours converts into 14 days and 15 hours. Going by this, the target date and time should be the 1400 on the 29th of Dec plus 15 hours, or 30th December at 0500. I think I'm correct.

No awards remain, the bounty is finished.

Hunterbunter, since this is your first time on the bounty list, please check that your address is correct at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/bounty_31.csv
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
December 19, 2013, 08:45:20 PM
If I may, I'd like to submit this installer for the remaining bounty:

http://media.andarazoroflove.org/Devcoin-Installer.exe

This is a commercial-grade installer, creates shortcuts on the Desktop for Devcoin and has a brief intro to Devcoin in its about dialog.







It has full uninstall support and is built using the Devcoin and devcoind binaries from the official Devcoin site. It also contains a link back to Devcoin. Feedback is appreciated, nearly every item in the installer can be customized and I hear by pledge to maintain the installer upon future releases of the client.
eeh
full member
Activity: 185
Merit: 100
December 19, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
Thanks for the share!

By the way, anyone wanting to be part of the community, please send me your Tagbond ID number or submit an invitation request to devcoin.tagbond.com.

Smealgol, I would be willing to forfeit a share to sweeten the pot for other outstanding bounties, if that's helpful. I would like to forfeit one share and give it to unthinkingbit to either keep or redistribute. If it's too much fuss, then disregard.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1005
December 19, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
There is an 18 share bounty for an exchange or marketplace.  There are three people eligible for the award, and here is how we plan to divide the shares:

Tagbond: 9 shares for devcoin integration
Sidhujag: 6 shares for working with Mark to get devcoin onto tag bonds exchange
EEh: 3 for tagbond site http://devcoin.tagbond.com/

Does that seem fair to all?

Also, @sidhujag, is mark the markm, or some other Mark?

Please reply with some feedback on the division, and if you have a dispute please add reasoning to why you should get more or less.

After four days pass with no objections, the shares will be officially put into the bounty file.
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