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Topic: Dwolla stopped from dealing with MtGox! (Read 4242 times)

legendary
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May 14, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
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The forum chain at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mtgox-account-in-the-usa-has-been-seized-by-the-dhs-205370 is longer than here, so it wins, and I'm locking this forum chain fork
donator
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Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
If that's the case, the people who really need to be concerned about this news are the Dwolla employees and the VCs and angels who have done Dwolla funding rounds.

This.  Just wondering if anyone knows of anyone who has used Dwolla for non-Bitcoin related purchase.   Being conservative I would say at least 75%+ of their volume is Bitcoin related and in reality it is probably 95%+.
hero member
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Merit: 500
On the plus side, now we'll get to find out whether most of Dwolla's usage is, in fact, for moving dollars from the USA to MtGox and viceversa.

If that's the case, the people who really need to be concerned about this news are the Dwolla employees and the VCs and angels who have done Dwolla funding rounds.
full member
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Merit: 100
Your attempts to downplay this look pretty silly.

Yes it's best to transfer bitcoins to another exchange, sell there and get your money out safely, instead of MtGox
Or just use international bank transfer or another method to save you some trouble and get a better price for your coins.  (Unless you only have a tiny amount to sell, which any exchange can handle.)

I don't quite understand the drama this causes.  SEPA withdrawals are delayed 4 weeks now, and have been disabled many times.  This hasn't caused much disruption to the price.  Only 30-40% of MtGox customers are based in the USA, and almost all of them have other options to get money in and out of MtGox.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
https://bitmynt.no
Yes it's best to transfer bitcoins to another exchange, sell there and get your money out safely, instead of MtGox
Or just use international bank transfer or another method to save you some trouble and get a better price for your coins.  (Unless you only have a tiny amount to sell, which any exchange can handle.)

I don't quite understand the drama this causes.  SEPA withdrawals are delayed 4 weeks now, and have been disabled many times.  This hasn't caused much disruption to the price.  Only 30-40% of MtGox customers are based in the USA, and almost all of them have other options to get money in and out of MtGox.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
here comes...... Streisand!?
legendary
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Merit: 1031
Now is a good time to gamble with your bitcoins lol

Amen!
donator
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Merit: 519
It's for the children!

i've had a long time Dwolla acct and i've not received any email...

Make a withdrawal from gox.  You'll get an email instead of your withdrawal.  I figured this could be a hoax so I threw a dollar at DHS Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
Is there any legitimate proof outside of bitcointalk.org about this announcement?

No, no there isn't. Several dozen people on BTCTalk and Reddit just decided to go post about the same email they got at the same time. It's a flashmob.

Yes, this is probably what's happening  Tongue

DexX7, here is your outside source: http://betabeat.com/2013/05/department-of-homeland-security-shuts-down-dwolla-payments-to-and-from-mt-gox/
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1002
100 satoshis -> ISO code
Wow. Yet another reason not to deal with MtGox.

Is this related to the Coinlabs lawsuit?

What's the best way in the US to get USD out of BTC? Coinbase?

I have used this for my transfers, and not had a problem or delay:
https://www.aurumxchange.com/
member
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Merit: 10
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.

Absolutely true.  
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.

And then go to another exchange and crash there.

What about keeping the BTC? Not a valid option, or...?

I figure people that want to withdrawal USD from MtGox and buy bitcoins to transfer them to another exchange to sell them would still want to withdrawal their USD.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.

Yup this is the best course of action and it will give much needed liquidity to other exchanges and away from Gox.  I was concerned about the lawsuit so I moved the remaining fiat out of my Gox account in case SHTF down the road with the lawsuit.  I didn't think anything would happen this quickly although we don't know if the two are related or not.

I'll probably do purchases going forward via Coinbase (have used them multiple times in the past, great service).  Fiat stays in my FDIC insured bank account until I need to make a purchase, then I move the BTC out of Coinbase once the ACH clears to a paper wallet.  Minimizes the time you have to trust these exchanges.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.

And then go to another exchange and crash there.

What about keeping the BTC? Not a valid option, or...?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.

And then go to another exchange and crash there.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Yes it's best to transfer bitcoins to another exchange, sell there and get your money out safely, instead of MtGox
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.

You can't cure stupid Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1009
A lot of people are panicking in the wrong direction.

If this is true, the last thing you should do is sell your BTC on Mt Gox for USD, because you might lose access to those dollars for an indefinite period of time. A more productive way to panic would be to buy up as many BTC as possible and withdraw those.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Now is a good time to gamble with your bitcoins lol
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