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June 14, 2014, 07:21:32 PM
#87
Please take note that if you want to live of $200k for the rest of your life and move to another country, you likely will have to change your nationality (which comes at a price). Otherwise, in many cases, your original country will still tax you. Also you will need a license to be allowed to live in most countries.

That is only true in the US. All other countries will only tax you on income you produce in that country.
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May 21, 2014, 03:02:01 PM
#86
1T$ isn't really a lot. $5000 per coin is reasonable over the next 12-24 months. It probably will hit $5000 by Jan 2014.
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It probably would have if PBOC hadn't cracked down.
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May 17, 2014, 07:07:04 AM
#85
1T$ isn't really a lot. $5000 per coin is reasonable over the next 12-24 months. It probably will hit $5000 by Jan 2014.
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May 17, 2014, 06:48:13 AM
#84

Most people, especially in here, don't understand that most "assets" are not investments because they have been brainwashed by banks to think that their devalued car is an asset. Their house is an asset. And so on.
When in reality, if it were not for the housing bubble, most people would never see any kind of profit from a home sale. And you certainly cannot expect to profit from selling most cars. Yet banks view this form of chattel as something with value and therefore brainwash you to believe that you are making money by owning them and borrowing from the bank against them.

I agree on one part.

A car is definitely not an asset in general, particularly recent models, but I don't think banks promote them as assets, but simply provide debt to allow their purchase. The debt usually amortises fast, to reflect the expected decline in value. It's similar to paying for a lease on a car, no-one expects to have any savings as a result of it.

That said some older cars, if bought well can be great assets, such as collectible sportscars, which have rocketed in value recently (mainly older Porsche/Ferrari/McLaren etc).

Regarding housing, other than in the recent bubble, which was extreme by any standards, especially for the US, housing has generally been an excellent asset. It is is almost always been cheaper historically to pay a mortgage over 30 years, than to pay the ever increasing rentals over the same period and equally over the longer holding periods capital values increase massively. Owning rental property is even better, since the upside is free provided the tenant pays the mortgage. The majority of privately owned wealth at middle-income levels in most developed countries has been created from ownership of property. Few people make significant wealth from simply saving their incomes through their lives.



Any money you may saved from a mortgage will come at the cost of career opportunities.  You can't relocate for a promotion or a better job on the whim, if you're stuck with some mortgage.    There's a reason why many people consider your house to be your biggest liability (in more aspects than one) rather than an asset.
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May 17, 2014, 06:36:34 AM
#83
Thailand and Gao isn't a death sentence, either.  If you can't go "native" (local girl) - I can speak from firsthand experience that the beach touristy areas are always full of European and Latin American tourists - until you can persuade one to stay, you can just gravitate from tourist to tourist.

Vang Vieng in Laos was very cheap and I noticed more tourist women than men there.  Koh Samui  was an absolute chick magnet as every woman watches the movie "The Beach" (with Leonardo di Caprio) and comes to Koh Samui looking for romance, but find out there's no men to be romanced by.   Cheesy
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May 15, 2014, 08:14:00 AM
#82
Mr. Money Mustache has updated his blog. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/
nice revamp of site, just read this article for inspiration http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/08/01/a-millionaire-is-made-ten-bucks-at-a-time/
saving is they key! Smiley
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May 10, 2014, 04:43:08 AM
#81
as i can see,we will have an early retirement 5 years later.
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May 09, 2014, 04:44:01 AM
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Mr. Money Mustache has updated his blog. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/
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November 24, 2013, 12:15:01 PM
#79
We need to start making more islands so we all have a few each to retire to in a year or so  Cool
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November 23, 2013, 08:47:12 AM
#78
I was made redundant a few months ago and have since made more thanks to bitcoin than I've ever managed to save previously.  Also thanks entirely to bitcoin, I'm off next week to travel through Africa for a few months, during which time I don't plan to do any trading (I might have to take a glance at the price now and then, though).  I don't fancy having a job ever again!!

That's fantastic! Have you started a blog for the trip yet? Some of us still have to go to work on Monday and would enjoy seeing what's out there in the rest of the world.
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November 05, 2013, 05:07:12 PM
#77
I've had this vision of selling all one's possessions for bitcoin, getting down to just what would fit in a backpack and travelling the world for 3-5 years waiting for full valuation to arrive.

Might have found someone on this plan:

I am traveling around the world thanks to profit on Bitcoins, instead of working. So thank you for the profit bulls, keep buying  Smiley

I was made redundant a few months ago and have since made more thanks to bitcoin than I've ever managed to save previously.  Also thanks entirely to bitcoin, I'm off next week to travel through Africa for a few months, during which time I don't plan to do any trading (I might have to take a glance at the price now and then, though).  I don't fancy having a job ever again!!
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November 05, 2013, 04:40:19 PM
#76
I've had this vision of selling all one's possessions for bitcoin, getting down to just what would fit in a backpack and travelling the world for 3-5 years waiting for full valuation to arrive.

Might have found someone on this plan:

I am traveling around the world thanks to profit on Bitcoins, instead of working. So thank you for the profit bulls, keep buying  Smiley
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August 15, 2013, 09:13:46 PM
#75
The great thing about bitcoin, is it's making it possible to go live all over the world and just transfer what you need into Fait when needed and if your good with money/assets

I met a guy at our bitcoin meetup acouple of days ago who 2 years ago was paid for a DJing gig in Bitcoin, he wasn't happy about it at the time.
But over past two years he has been able to travel and live in several countries, dj occasionally.

I have heard of it but seeing someone makes it alot more real.
Evo
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May 02, 2013, 05:58:06 PM
#74
I might buy the book, thanks for the link. It'd be nice to live on so little.
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May 02, 2013, 12:58:38 AM
#73

Glenn Campbell has chosen to live homeless. For a golden couple of years he qualified for free standby flights so he was almost always flying somewhere.
Not the country singer. That would have been cool.
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May 02, 2013, 12:53:20 AM
#72
Let's talk for a minute about the original idea I mentioned of wandering the globe while waiting for bitcoin appreciation. Rolf Potts' home base is a mobile home in Kansas but he's rarely there.

Although it was a marketing stunt I enjoyed his round-the-world with no bags trip: http://www.rtwblog.com/

Here's his main blog: http://www.vagablogging.net/

And bio: http://www.rolfpotts.com/bio/

Someone here already mentioned the WWOOF program. If you're willing to spend money there are hostels and AirBNB. Free options could include camping in National Parks or on BLM land/slab city. There's also https://www.couchsurfing.org/

Glenn Campbell has chosen to live homeless. For a golden couple of years he qualified for free standby flights so he was almost always flying somewhere.

Here's one way he spent the night waiting for a flight: http://travel.baddalailama.com/2010/03/lodging-on-fly-ontario-california.html
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April 29, 2013, 11:10:32 AM
#71
Eduardo Saverin became a Singapore resident/citizen, but but there have been no reports about a similar move by Zuckerberg (except on a humor web site).

.. This is why Zuckerberg is no longer American.

It seems I was wrong. Thanks for correcting me Smiley
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April 29, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
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Eduardo Saverin became a Singapore resident/citizen, but but there have been no reports about a similar move by Zuckerberg (except on a humor web site).

.. This is why Zuckerberg is no longer American.
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April 29, 2013, 08:02:26 AM
#69
thanks for MMM article, he is great.  Cheesy
I read early retirement extreme,  it's inspiring. it's good to question the consumerism.
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