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Quote from: davinchi on September 15, 2019, 10:58:21 AM

We can definitely ignore game-protect but at the same time just to respond to his accusations about the price, there is a big difference between what people are saying and what you think bet token worth. For example the mined costs are not the costs for the price, he keeps on figuring out how much is required to get one bet token but at the same time forgets that this is something that pays dividends and that is why its not only the money you make from selling, you make money by holding as well.

So, right now the price looks low, that is awesome because people can buy it cheap, get paid in dividends, than sell back and make profit, that is how it suppose to be, same as stocks that pays dividends. You can't just ignore the dividends part on your calculation all together.

Until today I have not seen any investment rentability calculation including dividends or the EOSBet accounting or the EOSBet tax declaration?

Until today I have only seen lies about the EOSBet rentability = investment scam!

Those who listened to me saved money, those who were fallen into this investment trap have to pay the price!

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Quote from: SyGambler on September 15, 2019, 12:42:27 AM

actually all the reviews and projects I see always mention it or use it for trading

Yeah, I saw it as well, and they successfully shill me to buy NDX to get the BET airdrop. And... I immediately regret my decision Grin

VIP 3 will only get measly 0.67 BET.

Luckily it didn't cost so much to be VIP 3, and who knows it will get better BET liquidity than binance dex.

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We can definitely ignore game-protect but at the same time just to respond to his accusations about the price, there is a big difference between what people are saying and what you think bet token worth. For example the mined costs are not the costs for the price, he keeps on figuring out how much is required to get one bet token but at the same time forgets that this is something that pays dividends and that is why its not only the money you make from selling, you make money by holding as well.

So, right now the price looks low, that is awesome because people can buy it cheap, get paid in dividends, than sell back and make profit, that is how it suppose to be, same as stocks that pays dividends. You can't just ignore the dividends part on your calculation all together.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 14, 2019, 03:55:07 PM

By the way, I found newdex is a better place to trade. Everything for EOS seems streamlined. However, I'm not following EOS that much, is this exchange legit?

started using eos like two weeks ago so still don't have a good experience but yeah newdex is legit , actually all the reviews and projects I see always mention it or use it for trading

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Quote from: CryptoCheckk on September 14, 2019, 01:51:54 PM

Better to just click the ignore button on him man, he'll never stop, just ignore.... everyone knows already what a troll he is.

I did, at first, but then I realized that this troll is very dangerous if unchallenged. For example this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52405137

IMO, do not feed trolls cannot be applied to scammers. He will find another newbie as his victim.

Yeah, today's BTC dividend is really surprising.
By the way, I found newdex is a better place to trade. Everything for EOS seems streamlined. However, I'm not following EOS that much, is this exchange legit?

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 14, 2019, 10:23:15 AM

This magic number (70%) is baseless as far as I know since I cannot find the source (documents, web pages, etc.).

You quoted it, but you can not find it? Cheesy

Quote from: mu_enrico on September 02, 2019, 05:08:24 AM

Quote from: game-protect on September 01, 2019, 08:37:37 AM

A) 20 EOS are currently worth USD 65. USD 65 wagered wth 1,5% house edge = USD 0,975 rake paid to get 1 BET token

B) BET token purchase last price USD 0,068

In other words, players paid 3 times more than its current value! Great deal!

Thank you game-protect for proving my point that it is indeed a great deal if you buy this BET token on Binance DEX. However, keep in mind:
- Market value is different from the intrinsic value (use dividend discount model or whatever applicable);
- Users go to the casino to play, not to get "free" BET tokens; and
- Only buy or invest if you know what you are doing.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 14, 2019, 10:23:15 AM

^^^Noooo, please don't submit anything to game-protect and don't give any money to him.
Read this scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/game-protectcom-did-not-refund-my-money-and-stopped-replying-to-my-emails-5183189

This magic number (70%) is baseless as far as I know since I cannot find the source (documents, web pages, etc.).

But one thing that real is that GP "displays some red flags which make him high-risk."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

Better to just click the ignore button on him man, he'll never stop, just ignore.... everyone knows already what a troll he is. He's bound to be banned again from this forum (hopefully permanently next time).

In other news, been a very good BTC volume day today, dividends well over 20k USD total again Cheesy

https://twitter.com/EOSBetCasino/status/1172941294131392512

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^^^Noooo, please don't submit anything to game-protect and don't give any money to him.
Read this scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/game-protectcom-did-not-refund-my-money-and-stopped-replying-to-my-emails-5183189

This magic number (70%) is baseless as far as I know since I cannot find the source (documents, web pages, etc.).

But one thing that real is that GP "displays some red flags which make him high-risk."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

game-protect

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EOSBet fantasy token investors lost 70% value of its investment!

This is huge! Cheesy

If you want to sue the investment scam artists behind EOSBet, please submit your loss to Game Protect?

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The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill bitcointalk accounts like TwitchySeal!

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marlboroza alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with game-protect is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

Support: TwitchySeal

This extremely mentally ill bitcointalk account believes that anyone dealing with game-protect is at a high risk of losing money, even though we are since 3,5 years active with over 500 online casino scam reports received and no one ever lost money while dealing with game-protect! Cheesy

Except for this person who you stole money from:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/game-protectcom-did-not-refund-my-money-and-stopped-replying-to-my-emails-5183189

Are you ever going to respond to them or just keep trying to rip off other people to get money while promoting your casino that sells illegal lottery tickets.

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Bet token gets more valuable the more they burn but at the same time you will be getting less and less % of the dividends because right now they own 30 million bet tokens, if one day there is only 30 million bet tokens left aside from theirs, that means 50% will go to team, if they keep it up than it will become 50%+ , in the end you don't have to sell but in theory they could literally buy all bet tokens in the market and have 90% of all bet tokens eventually, which would mean this is as centralized as other ones since the owners will get the money.

That's why people should not sell their bet tokens for cheap and hold them since they will get more and more valuable every time they burn but for some reason people are still selling for far cheaper than I would. I wish I had more money so I could get even more bet tokens and hold them.

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Quote from: game-protect on September 13, 2019, 09:45:39 AM

Why did EOSBet fantasy token investors lose 70% of its investment, even though EOSBet claims it made an USD 7 million win???

Is one of the signature spammers able to answer this question substantiated?

You are a broke scammer that has no business harassing anyone till you pay back everyone you scammed.

From one of your victims:

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My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time. He said he had no money in his BTC wallet but needed €10 for a VPN.

Funny but sad. Go get a job so you can repay the $11k USD + you owe.

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Why did EOSBet fantasy token investors lose 70% of its investment, even though EOSBet claims it made an USD 7 million win???

Is one of the signature spammers able to answer this question substantiated?

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Quote from: target on September 13, 2019, 08:32:10 AM

It means you are very updated about the project. You really are a long time fan of EOSBET.

GP fans of EOSBET? I'm laughing right now because of this, you need to know about GP. He the hatter of all gambling platform man if you don't know about that.

He only asking an annoying question to every thread gambling ann.

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All it needs I think is the pair BET/BTC on exchanges for its volume to rise up. Has to be done along with the campaigns. If they can add BET again to another exchange, there may be a chance it could also be added to the CMC.

Quote from: game-protect on September 13, 2019, 07:14:10 AM

EOSBet fantasy token holders selling its tokens for 70% less like they paid!
What does this mean?

It means you are very updated about the project. You really are a long time fan of EOSBET.

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Quote from: game-protect on September 13, 2019, 07:14:10 AM

EOSBet fantasy token holders selling its tokens for 70% less like they paid!

What does this mean?

Something wrong doing that?

Oh come on, everyone freely to trade, buy or sell his own token. Did we need to get your approvement before doing a trade and its a dividend the main concept still on gambling, dividend just a bonus for a player.

Stop trolled the gambling section, better to solve your service problem. One of your customers got problem by using a service, already few days still waiting for your response. You have time responding at here but don't have time to reply the thread/email your customer.

Here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52408306

Don't forget thanks to me.

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EOSBet fantasy token holders selling its tokens for 70% less like they paid!

What does this mean?

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 12, 2019, 07:57:35 AM

Yup, it's difficult to keep the same (30%) percentage every time they (really) burn tokens from the market. Hence, it's easier to lock it somewhere permanently. However, it also comes with one major drawback, i.e., BET token doesn't get more valuable because of the total supply is unchanged.

It means that the token holders cannot expect more dividend if they didn't increase their BET holding.

Actually BET tokens do get more valuable as they are permanently taken out of circulation. Therefore the maximum supply drops. The dividends of those tokens are use to buy back more tokens. The price of buying back the tokens will increase the price of BET. They might be locked forever in a smart contract, but the effect is the same.

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Quote from: CryptoCheckk on September 12, 2019, 03:05:24 AM

Last thing: I don't believe we should bash this promo against a signature campaign. EOSBet can do them both, even at the same time if they want. All I care about is is it working in terms of volume on the platform that turn into dividends in my wallet Grin

Signature campaign can't be done for couple weeks tho, I mean if they will do some sort of signature campaign they should find a way to sustain it as well, they are making money the more people join so maybe they can make some sort of affiliate link for themselves and then make people use that on their signatures, that way they will know how much money they are making from the affiliate link and the signature campaign and they can adjust how much they should pay accordingly as well. That way you have certain amount of money coming in and certain amount of money going out and if they are about equals then you can continue, if you spend more than you earn then you can slowly stop it, just stop paying for smaller ranks first and then stop all together if its not making any profit.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 12, 2019, 07:57:35 AM

Yup, it's difficult to keep the same (30%) percentage every time they (really) burn tokens from the market. Hence, it's easier to lock it somewhere permanently. However, it also comes with one major drawback, i.e., BET token doesn't get more valuable because of the total supply is unchanged.

It means that the token holders cannot expect more dividend if they didn't increase their BET holding.

That's the problem, the tokens have reached the saturation point and somethings needs to be done to ensure the further prosperity of the tokens. Although this can be regarded as not such a trivial task, nonetheless, is practically doable Cheesy

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