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Quote from: Fray on August 16, 2014, 12:20:31 AM

As far as I can tell the growth rate of infections is not accelerating.

No. It is spreading rapidly and accelerating. As per the latest reports from the WHO, there were a total of 128 new infections in the 48-hour time period staring August 10. The disease seems to be under control in Guinea. But in the two other affected nations (Sierra Leone and Liberia) nothing seems to be working against the epidemic.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 15, 2014, 11:33:19 AM

Quote from: Fray on August 15, 2014, 02:17:17 AM

The US has experimental drugs that treat ebola that have not been fully tested/vetted via the clinical trial process. These drugs have shown to work in the limited number of times they have been administered. It would be possible to administer these drugs to more of the population in the event that this were to spread to more populous areas.

No. You are wrong. There are only two or three experimental drugs for Ebola. And the stocks of all these drugs have already run out. It will take many more months to replenish the stocks now.

It has taken several months for the outbreak to spread so far. As far as I can tell the growth rate of infections is not accelerating. It is also possible to quarantine people who have contracted the virus.

While the virus is being fought via quarantine, it would be possible to stat producing more of the experimental drugs.

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Quote from: Fray on August 15, 2014, 02:17:17 AM

The US has experimental drugs that treat ebola that have not been fully tested/vetted via the clinical trial process. These drugs have shown to work in the limited number of times they have been administered. It would be possible to administer these drugs to more of the population in the event that this were to spread to more populous areas.

No. You are wrong. There are only two or three experimental drugs for Ebola. And the stocks of all these drugs have already run out. It will take many more months to replenish the stocks now.

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Quote from: Benjig on August 15, 2014, 02:49:58 AM

Ebola virus is not so easy to get it to trigger a martial law, its not like if some guy sits right to you in the train you will get it, as Bryant said, you need to be in contact with fluids, in Africa its a epidemic for the poor healthcare they have.

Yes, I agree with this.
Not just their poor health care but also their their superstition and distrust of doctors is problem there.
In Western world situation is different so I don't think that this epidemic can spread easily outside of Africa.

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Ebola virus is not so easy to get it to trigger a martial law, its not like if some guy sits right to you in the train you will get it, as Bryant said, you need to be in contact with fluids, in Africa its a epidemic for the poor healthcare they have.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 15, 2014, 01:56:09 AM

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They cannot even contain the people there who are fleeing. The scary thing is, symptoms may not be visible for 21 days! Thats more than enough time for a person to travel to literally ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD without knowing they are infected. That is scary!

Right now, the disease is mostly contained in some of the villages of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone (although it is spreading rapidly). The urban population is not that affected. Once the urban population gets hit, then I am afraid that we'll have to ban all international travel from these nations.

The US has experimental drugs that treat ebola that have not been fully tested/vetted via the clinical trial process. These drugs have shown to work in the limited number of times they have been administered. It would be possible to administer these drugs to more of the population in the event that this were to spread to more populous areas.

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Quote from: jcoin200 on August 14, 2014, 04:42:23 PM

They cannot even contain the people there who are fleeing. The scary thing is, symptoms may not be visible for 21 days! Thats more than enough time for a person to travel to literally ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD without knowing they are infected. That is scary!

Right now, the disease is mostly contained in some of the villages of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone (although it is spreading rapidly). The urban population is not that affected. Once the urban population gets hit, then I am afraid that we'll have to ban all international travel from these nations.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 14, 2014, 03:23:03 PM

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Quote from: kuroman on August 14, 2014, 11:43:43 AM

I believe that if the rate on which this disease is spreading in a certain area exceeds a certain rate and not declining, I believe it is necessary to trigger martial law, Ebola right now is no joke

I don't know... the epidemic shows no sign of slowing down... and the affected countries have declared cordon sanitaire in many of the affected villages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/science/using-a-tactic-unseen-in-a-century-countries-cordon-off-ebola-racked-areas.html?_r=0

It send chills up my spine, just when I think what would have happened if I had been a resident in any of those villages.

If the infection spreads to the US, will they declare cordon sanitaire?

Reminds me of a Hollywood movie, which I saw recently (The Crazies?).

Yes, I agree with you.
This Ebola situation is every day more and more dangerous.
We are lucky that this problem is still limited only for Africa but question is for how long?
Still, from cordon sanitaire to the martial law is long way and surely medical help in developed, western world, is on much higher level and they can do much more to stop Ebola than doctors in Africa, with their very limited resources.

They cannot even contain the people there who are fleeing. The scary thing is, symptoms may not be visible for 21 days! Thats more than enough time for a person to travel to literally ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD without knowing they are infected. That is scary!

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 14, 2014, 12:54:02 PM

Quote from: kuroman on August 14, 2014, 11:43:43 AM

I believe that if the rate on which this disease is spreading in a certain area exceeds a certain rate and not declining, I believe it is necessary to trigger martial law, Ebola right now is no joke

I don't know... the epidemic shows no sign of slowing down... and the affected countries have declared cordon sanitaire in many of the affected villages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/science/using-a-tactic-unseen-in-a-century-countries-cordon-off-ebola-racked-areas.html?_r=0

It send chills up my spine, just when I think what would have happened if I had been a resident in any of those villages.

If the infection spreads to the US, will they declare cordon sanitaire?

Reminds me of a Hollywood movie, which I saw recently (The Crazies?).

Yes, I agree with you.
This Ebola situation is every day more and more dangerous.
We are lucky that this problem is still limited only for Africa but question is for how long?
Still, from cordon sanitaire to the martial law is long way and surely medical help in developed, western world, is on much higher level and they can do much more to stop Ebola than doctors in Africa, with their very limited resources.

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Quote from: kuroman on August 14, 2014, 11:43:43 AM

I believe that if the rate on which this disease is spreading in a certain area exceeds a certain rate and not declining, I believe it is necessary to trigger martial law, Ebola right now is no joke

I don't know... the epidemic shows no sign of slowing down... and the affected countries have declared cordon sanitaire in many of the affected villages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/science/using-a-tactic-unseen-in-a-century-countries-cordon-off-ebola-racked-areas.html?_r=0

It send chills up my spine, just when I think what would have happened if I had been a resident in any of those villages.

If the infection spreads to the US, will they declare cordon sanitaire?

Reminds me of a Hollywood movie, which I saw recently (The Crazies?).

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Quote from: kuusj98 on August 14, 2014, 12:12:06 PM

Why are they not mass producing the expirimental cure? We are letting it spin out of control!

You can't mass produce an experimental cure, and even after years and once it is confirmed not to be working properly with no side effect or least without any dangerous ones, it will take time, to put in place the industrial process to mass produce it especially if it's a complex medicine which is likely the case due to the fact that to this day and age we don't have any real medicine to counter it

Obviously they are other factors I didn't mentions, such Patents, Pharmaceutical income, international medical laws, ect ect

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 12, 2014, 01:32:17 PM

Ebola is not an airborne disease. It is spread only through body fluids. So that makes Ebola less contagious than the other airborne diseases such as Tuberculosis and Influenza. Therefore, I don't think sufficient justification exists for declaring the martial law.

But keep in mind that the areas where it's preading right now are very hot and very humid, hence a lot of body liquid being produced by the people there and can be easily transfered and you have to add to this the customs and believes in some areas and the lack of education makes things worse. (example, people freeing quaranted member of familly and takinbg

I believe that if the rate on which this disease is spreading in a certain area exceeds a certain rate and not declining, I believe it is necessary to trigger martial law, Ebola right now is no joke

Why are they not mass producing the expirimental cure? We are letting it spin out of control!

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 12, 2014, 01:32:17 PM

Ebola is not an airborne disease. It is spread only through body fluids. So that makes Ebola less contagious than the other airborne diseases such as Tuberculosis and Influenza. Therefore, I don't think sufficient justification exists for declaring the martial law.

But keep in mind that the areas where it's preading right now are very hot and very humid, hence a lot of body liquid being produced by the people there and can be easily transfered and you have to add to this the customs and believes in some areas and the lack of education makes things worse. (example, people freeing quaranted member of familly and takinbg

I believe that if the rate on which this disease is spreading in a certain area exceeds a certain rate and not declining, I believe it is necessary to trigger martial law, Ebola right now is no joke

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Quote from: pungopete468 on August 13, 2014, 06:55:21 PM

You could hypothetically use genetic engineering to make a hybrid clone between two different viruses which would have similar traits to both parent viruses... But why would anyone want to do that?

A hybrid between two viruses? That is not possible, IMO. Or our science is not that advanced. Can you give me any example of an incident in which two different viruses were hybridized?

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Quote from: jaberwock on August 13, 2014, 03:32:54 AM

Maybe if we see a ~~lab made~~ natural modification of the Ebola that spreads by the air.

I don't think Ebola can be mutated enough to make it spread through the air. You can't just mutate viruses like that. Can the HIV virus can be modified to make it spread through air? No. Same with the Ebola virus.

You could hypothetically use genetic engineering to make a hybrid clone between two different viruses which would have similar traits to both parent viruses... But why would anyone want to do that?

Ever hear of the Georgia Guidestones? These globalist power tripping fascists want the world population reduced to 500K. That is a fact.

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http://healthmap.org/en/ is predicting an ebola outbreak in the USA within 10 days. It predicted the outbreak in Africa 9 days prior so it works. Confirmed cases in NYC. It is loose and it is aerosol.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 13, 2014, 11:58:11 AM

Quote from: jaberwock on August 13, 2014, 03:32:54 AM

Maybe if we see a ~~lab made~~ natural modification of the Ebola that spreads by the air.

I don't think Ebola can be mutated enough to make it spread through the air. You can't just mutate viruses like that. Can the HIV virus can be modified to make it spread through air? No. Same with the Ebola virus.

You could hypothetically use genetic engineering to make a hybrid clone between two different viruses which would have similar traits to both parent viruses... But why would anyone want to do that?

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Quote from: jaberwock on August 13, 2014, 03:32:54 AM

Maybe if we see a ~~lab made~~ natural modification of the Ebola that spreads by the air.

I don't think Ebola can be mutated enough to make it spread through the air. You can't just mutate viruses like that. Can the HIV virus can be modified to make it spread through air? No. Same with the Ebola virus.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 12, 2014, 01:32:17 PM

Ebola is not an airborne disease. It is spread only through body fluids. So that makes Ebola less contagious than the other airborne diseases such as Tuberculosis and Influenza. Therefore, I don't think sufficient justification exists for declaring the martial law.

Maybe if we see a ~~lab made~~ natural modification of the Ebola that spreads by the air.

I remember in the X-files an airbone disease would be used to justify martial law before the alien invasion

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