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November 09, 2014, 01:16:16 AM
#15
I think you have to steer the conversation away from "who to blame".

1. The only solution is to acknowledge the problem and come up w solution w everyone involved.

2. If you are super rich or corporations, are you willing to pay more taxes?

3. If you are middle class are you willing to spend more on supporting SMEs

4. If you are an SME,  will you hire more local labor?

5. If you are poor, are you willing to work harder? Take some night classes, increase your skillset to gain employment?

6. If you are gov't,  are you willing to reform taxes? Stimulate SMEs & increase social programs so the underclass can get more education? Focus on employment rather than GDP

The problem can only be solved if the entire society wants it solved


1. That would be even harder to achieve. Every class in a society have different goals.

2. They are already paying more taxes compared to an average guy, otherwise, the Internal Revenue would be chasing them.

3. Not all middle class are into business or SME's. Some are just contend being an employee of some giant corporations.

4. That could be work out.

5. Working harder is all they could do. How could they even take night classes to upgrade their skill when they are already having hard time to make ends meet.

6. No comment on that. Politicians are trying to balance their their positions on tax reforms, otherwise, they wont get any contributions to fund their campaign. Smiley

Apply this to past problems.  Slavery, labor rights, civil rights and whatever else

Sounds impossible to solve at the time but society did progress. It can either through democratic process or bloody process.  Personally, I prefer the non violent way

The problem w inequality issues is not everyone even recognize its an issue.

The problem w individuals only thinking about themselves and not caring about society as a whole.  Shit doesnt get done.  Trying to blame someone.  Yeah it feels good but its the wrong mindset
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November 09, 2014, 01:14:52 AM
#14
It's much worse than the flu, it's a defective heart.  The only way to survive is with a transplant.

Fortunately, Bitcoin is a voluntary monetary system.  Those who feel their needs are being met with the existing fiat monetary system and prefer to continue using it are free to do so.
So our current system, what exactly is wrong with it?

The biggest issues are the fact that it's inflationary and debt-based.  It's also controlled by those with political connections and used as a political tool.
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November 09, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
#13
It's much worse than the flu, it's a defective heart.  The only way to survive is with a transplant.

Fortunately, Bitcoin is a voluntary monetary system.  Those who feel their needs are being met with the existing fiat monetary system and prefer to continue using it are free to do so.
So our current system, what exactly is wrong with it?
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November 09, 2014, 12:55:01 AM
#12
I think you have to steer the conversation away from "who to blame".

1. The only solution is to acknowledge the problem and come up w solution w everyone involved.

2. If you are super rich or corporations, are you willing to pay more taxes?

3. If you are middle class are you willing to spend more on supporting SMEs

4. If you are an SME,  will you hire more local labor?

5. If you are poor, are you willing to work harder? Take some night classes, increase your skillset to gain employment?

6. If you are gov't,  are you willing to reform taxes? Stimulate SMEs & increase social programs so the underclass can get more education? Focus on employment rather than GDP

The problem can only be solved if the entire society wants it solved


1. That would be even harder to achieve. Every class in a society have different goals.

2. They are already paying more taxes compared to an average guy, otherwise, the Internal Revenue would be chasing them.

3. Not all middle class are into business or SME's. Some are just contend being an employee of some giant corporations.

4. That could be work out.

5. Working harder is all they could do. How could they even take night classes to upgrade their skill when they are already having hard time to make ends meet.

6. No comment on that. Politicians are trying to balance their their positions on tax reforms, otherwise, they wont get any contributions to fund their campaign. Smiley
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November 09, 2014, 12:53:15 AM
#11
The only solution is to acknowledge the problem and come up w solution w everyone involved.

There won't be a single solution for all of society, because not everyone in society has the same goals.  Just find a solution that works for you that doesn't require forcing it on others.

We're talking inequality here.  Its a societal problem not an individual problem.  The only way to solve societal problems is when you get consensus

There will be no consensus.  Like-minded individuals will have to get together and form societies made up of willing participants.
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November 09, 2014, 12:46:21 AM
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The only solution is to acknowledge the problem and come up w solution w everyone involved.

There won't be a single solution for all of society, because not everyone in society has the same goals.  Just find a solution that works for you that doesn't require forcing it on others.

We're talking inequality here.  Its a societal problem not an individual problem.  The only way to solve societal problems is when you get consensus

You never heard of the virtuous circle concept?
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November 09, 2014, 12:44:10 AM
#9
The only solution is to acknowledge the problem and come up w solution w everyone involved.

There won't be a single solution for all of society, because not everyone in society has the same goals.  Just find a solution that works for you that doesn't require forcing it on others.
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November 09, 2014, 12:38:27 AM
#8
I think you have to steer the conversation away from "who to blame".

The only solution is to acknowledge the problem and come up w solution w everyone involved.

If you are super rich or corporations, are you willing to pay more taxes?

If you are middle class are you willing to spend more on supporting SMEs

If you are an SME,  will you hire more local labor?

If you are poor, are you willing to work harder? Take some night classes, increase your skillset to gain employment?

If you are gov't,  are you willing to reform taxes? Stimulate SMEs & increase social programs so the underclass can get more education? Focus on employment rather than GDP

The problem can only be solved if the entire society wants it solved
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November 09, 2014, 12:22:12 AM
#7
Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
Roll Eyes It's this kind of useless logic that works against progress, not for it.

Progress will only occur when people choose to opt out of the current fiat, debt-based monetary system.  Anyone trying to improve society within the current monetary system is just spinning their wheels.
That's like saying you have the flu, but the only way to get better is to replace your heart with a heart that we are unsure will work or not.

Again, completely pointless.

It's much worse than the flu, it's a defective heart.  The only way to survive is with a transplant.

Fortunately, Bitcoin is a voluntary monetary system.  Those who feel their needs are being met with the existing fiat monetary system and prefer to continue using it are free to do so.
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November 09, 2014, 12:18:53 AM
#6
Progress will only occur when people choose to opt out of the current fiat, debt-based monetary system.  Anyone trying to improve society within the current monetary system is just spinning their wheels.

but that is tantamount in saying that progress can never be achieve.
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November 09, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
#5
Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
Roll Eyes It's this kind of useless logic that works against progress, not for it.

Progress will only occur when people choose to opt out of the current fiat, debt-based monetary system.  Anyone trying to improve society within the current monetary system is just spinning their wheels.
That's like saying you have the flu, but the only way to get better is to replace your heart with a heart that we are unsure will work or not.

Again, completely pointless.
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November 09, 2014, 12:07:41 AM
#4
Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
Roll Eyes It's this kind of useless logic that works against progress, not for it.

Progress will only occur when people choose to opt out of the current fiat, debt-based monetary system.  Anyone trying to improve society within the current monetary system is just spinning their wheels.
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November 08, 2014, 11:37:46 PM
#3
...Can we blame capitalist that hoard as much wealth as possible leaving only a thin slice of the .pie for the average guy to share among themselves?

Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
Roll Eyes It's this kind of useless logic that works against progress, not for it.
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Bitcoin: The People's Bailout
November 08, 2014, 11:12:16 PM
#2
...Can we blame capitalist that hoard as much wealth as possible leaving only a thin slice of the .pie for the average guy to share among themselves?

Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
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November 08, 2014, 10:33:01 PM
#1
Lets face it, there's a colossal gap between the rich and the poor, and that gap is certainly getting wider. But whose to blame in this economic inequality? Is it the government that favors capitalist who contributed large amount during their campaign periods? Is it our constitution that institutionalized the practice of contractualization and other forms of labor flexibilization, hence undermining job security? Like a joke from my previous job, "If you are not a regular employee, you are casual. And after 5 or 6 months, your employer says TY (Thank You) to you which makes you a casualTY. Can we blame capitalist that hoard as much wealth as possible leaving only a thin slice of the .pie for the average guy to share among themselves?
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