Don't think the EU will vote against the US, its best for snowden to stay in Russia
If he goes to EU Germany will help the US and we lose a hero.
Topic: Edward Snowden praises EU parliament vote against US extradition (Read 1516 times)
November 03, 2015, 08:46:05 AM
The EU will probably betray him anyway. he is better off in russia.
November 03, 2015, 08:38:59 AM
Hope EU approves his stay in any European country. He can be strong asset to any government.
If I were him I would not trust them.
November 03, 2015, 06:05:03 AM
Hope EU approves his stay in any European country. He can be strong asset to any government.
November 03, 2015, 05:12:08 AM
If the EU rejects his request he will need to stay in Russia. Let's hope that Eu parliament accepts his request!
not really sure about this since US has got a lot of allies in the EU
November 02, 2015, 06:40:37 PM
If the EU rejects his request he will need to stay in Russia. Let's hope that Eu parliament accepts his request!
Meanwhile back in the US.
Just watch outgoing Obama, on his last day, pardon dozens of his close and criminal friends.
Holder, Lerner, Hillary Clinton, on and on.
But not Snowden.
November 02, 2015, 04:19:33 PM
If the EU rejects his request he will need to stay in Russia. Let's hope that Eu parliament accepts his request!
November 02, 2015, 07:07:58 AM
Well, he is certainly in a different category than the typical spy or mole.
The US Government said they would not tap and record ordinary US citizen's phones, emails and conversations, and they were doing exactly that. And, I understand, continue to do exactly that.
They lied to the American people, and would like to convict Snowden of treason for bringing the matter to our attention. And this is at the same time that the FBI's Fast and Furious program gives assault rifles to Mexican Cartels, Hillary is letting every hacker into top secret emails on a server in her bathroom, the IRS is 900+ days stalling on a Congressional inquiry on it's targeting conservatives for audits, and NOAA is refusing to provide climate data under congressional supoena.
Certainly interesting times we are living in.
Indeed we are. If you put it like that it's all fucked up, it's fucked up either way
November 01, 2015, 04:20:11 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Kucherena
I think Kucherena will worship NSA like a divine entity because they made it possible for him to get $1 million out of air
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In June 2014, American film director Oliver Stone acquired rights to a screen adaptation of Kucherena's novel, Time of the Octopus, the story of fictional American whistleblower Joshua Cold. Threatened by his government and waiting for a decision on his request for Russian asylum, Cold spends three weeks in the transit area of the Moscow airport. Stone said, "Anatoly has written a 'grand inquisitor'-style Russian novel weighing the soul of his fictional whistleblower against the gravity of a '1984' tyranny that has achieved global proportions."[2] The book, first in a "psychological-political thriller trilogy," is set to be released on March 3, 2015, according to state news agency RIA Novosti. The Moscow Times reported that Kucherena said Snowden had already received a copy of the book and liked it.[3] In April 2015, WikiLeaks revealed that Oliver Stone paid $1 million for the movie rights to Kucherena's novel.[4]
I think Kucherena will worship NSA like a divine entity because they made it possible for him to get $1 million out of air
October 31, 2015, 12:15:18 PM
Russia is the only country in eastern europe, where you can so openly criticize government, president or judges without being killed/raped/jailed. You can even drop pile of shit on them in your articles, without providing any actual proof, and nothing happens after that. Just for example, there is "Echo of Moscow" radio station which is doing that during last two decades and I don't see them killed. 
As far I remember, last the "murdered reporters" case was resolved, guilty were imprisoned and relatives of murdered reporters agreed with this result. But nothing of this has been reported in the free, open and democratic media, of course.
Russia has a very bad record of freedom of the press, murdered reporters, etc.
Yeah, record which is made by whom? Let me guess, it's not written by these people, who have even worse situation in their home? As far I remember, last the "murdered reporters" case was resolved, guilty were imprisoned and relatives of murdered reporters agreed with this result. But nothing of this has been reported in the free, open and democratic media, of course.
If I remember correctly they are very low in the press freedom index. Something like 150 out of 170 countries evaluated.
All these "indexes" or "ratings" are worth nothing when it comes to demonizing your opponent. October 31, 2015, 12:47:32 AM
well.. i dont know the whole story but its good he even had allies in other countries where the enemy is his own.. sad to admit.
That's true. But not much of an alliance. It's good that russia offered him asylum. But it's more to provoke america than because snowden is that important to them. Or because free speech is. Russia has a very bad record of freedom of the press, murdered reporters, etc. If I remember correctly they are very low in the press freedom index. Something like 150 out of 170 countries evaluated.
October 30, 2015, 11:57:18 PM
well.. i dont know the whole story but its good he even had allies in other countries where the enemy is his own.. sad to admit.
October 30, 2015, 11:22:31 PM
I would still not risk moving to Europe if I were him. They may try to find some other unrelated charge to imprison him like Assange.
I'd order one ticket per week or month, on the regular basis... Just to keep them busy, trying to verify all passengers of these flights. October 30, 2015, 10:08:19 PM
I would still not risk moving to Europe if I were him. They may try to find some other unrelated charge to imprison him like Assange.
Or imprison and then extradite him because of the leaks anyway. The vote was symbolic. Countries in the eu can follow us orders as they always do if they want. And probably will as you say. Reminds me of how fast they forced the plane from the president of bolivia to land when they thought Snowden may be on board.
October 30, 2015, 08:08:10 PM
I would still not risk moving to Europe if I were him. They may try to find some other unrelated charge to imprison him like Assange.
October 30, 2015, 07:41:01 PM
October 30, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
I understand if Snowden was speaking out to protect the rights of American citizens. However the US has no obligation to other countries, so any information released about other countries he is responsible for. Snowden is a traitor and he should stand trial for those actions. Snowden took an oath and broke it
More like snowden broke his contract. In a normal free country this would be an embarrassing scandal and he would have just been fired. The US government does not like to be embarrassed and they are acting like spoiled children over it. October 30, 2015, 01:45:39 PM
This guy had everything planned out. All the powerfull americans can't even find him anywhere. He knew what the goverment was doing was wrong, and planned everything out to expose them. The goverment is in the wrong here and yet they wanna bring him to trial for opening people's eyes.
Well, he is certainly in a different category than the typical spy or mole.The US Government said they would not tap and record ordinary US citizen's phones, emails and conversations, and they were doing exactly that. And, I understand, continue to do exactly that.
They lied to the American people, and would like to convict Snowden of treason for bringing the matter to our attention. And this is at the same time that the FBI's Fast and Furious program gives assault rifles to Mexican Cartels, Hillary is letting every hacker into top secret emails on a server in her bathroom, the IRS is 900+ days stalling on a Congressional inquiry on it's targeting conservatives for audits, and NOAA is refusing to provide climate data under congressional supoena.
Certainly interesting times we are living in.
October 30, 2015, 10:09:32 AM
This guy had everything planned out. All the powerfull americans can't even find him anywhere. He knew what the goverment was doing was wrong, and planned everything out to expose them. The goverment is in the wrong here and yet they wanna bring him to trial for opening people's eyes.
October 30, 2015, 09:58:52 AM
Yep. I wonder why nobody came screaming same speeches about Hillary.
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