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legendary
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September 06, 2017, 05:18:14 PM
#30
So far only Estonia have allowed e-voting. From first look, e-voting looks nice - people don't need to waste their time to go to dedicated place for voting. And it can increase people activity in elections.
But there are many reasons why e-voting is still not usual thing. It's more complicated to monitor results in e-voting - they hardly can prevent such thing as buying of votes.
Another thing - security. We all know that there was attempts to hack US President elections voting system. Hackers can affect results in e-voting.
So far I don't think that many countries are ready for e-voting.
sr. member
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September 05, 2017, 11:40:23 PM
#29
E voting, the way it is now, with Diebolt running things can be easily manipulated. Remember we're talking about a lot of power involved, power hungry people will try to take advantage of everything.

Now blockchain will make it very transparent. A person with a WiFi laptop in the other room cannot simply come and change how many votes this and that person had.
newbie
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September 05, 2017, 11:30:23 PM
#28
Elections with the use of current high technologies such internet will somehow impose a threat to the credibility of results. Especially that results can be easily alterated. If elections would use this kind of process someone or somebody, a company perhaps should figure out a program how to handle high security of keeping the vote secured from alteration.
full member
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September 05, 2017, 03:48:27 PM
#27
Quote from: TheTrunK link=topic=2114132.msg21by 0227#msg21140227 date=1503513175
Today I saw a video how hard it is to make voting system online instead of paper votes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI) (I mean votes for president, goverment elections). Like it can be easily manipulated and anonymity is a big problem. But as I'm deeping into cryptocurrencies I think that Zcash and it's forks like Hush - I think the technology it provides is the solution. Blockchain, decentralized, fully anonymous (z transactions). What do you guys think?

Blockchain solve the problem of fake votes, but needs some regulation in order to avoid double votes from the same users, actually it can be possible if a group do a good research and find solution for this problem

Blockchain,  regulated? Regulated by who? Double voting can be avoided EASILY with Biometrics.. no need to regulate a perfect tech by imperfect people

True what you said, but you need a regulated organisation for the Biometrics, which organization will collect them?
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September 03, 2017, 10:30:34 AM
#26
I think that an electronic voting system will not prevent fraud. The corrupt government will do everything to win the election, regardless of the form in which it will take place.
sr. member
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September 03, 2017, 10:03:20 AM
#25
I don't think any electronic systems will work better when it comes to voting. Many countries shifted back to paper votes from EVM. There is always a threat of hacking whenever it comes to online system because ultimately the thing is created by a man only. I agree blockchain is quite safe in that context. But I don't think that it would work. Also, in voting complete anonymity is not really necessary.
Ucy
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September 03, 2017, 09:55:12 AM
#24
Quote from: TheTrunK link=topic=2114132.msg21by 0227#msg21140227 date=1503513175
Today I saw a video how hard it is to make voting system online instead of paper votes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI) (I mean votes for president, goverment elections). Like it can be easily manipulated and anonymity is a big problem. But as I'm deeping into cryptocurrencies I think that Zcash and it's forks like Hush - I think the technology it provides is the solution. Blockchain, decentralized, fully anonymous (z transactions). What do you guys think?

Blockchain solve the problem of fake votes, but needs some regulation in order to avoid double votes from the same users, actually it can be possible if a group do a good research and find solution for this problem

Blockchain,  regulated? Regulated by who? Double voting can be avoided EASILY with Biometrics.. no need to regulate a perfect tech by imperfect people
full member
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September 03, 2017, 08:10:33 AM
#23
I think e-voting is not a reliable idea. Yes it is convenient because it will reduce the human works. It will make the voting more easily. But the threat of it is the hack or breaching the system. As we all know it is involve with the electronics and computer that is why there is always a possibility of vote hacking.
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August 31, 2017, 02:50:29 PM
#22
Today I saw a video how hard it is to make voting system online instead of paper votes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI) (I mean votes for president, goverment elections). Like it can be easily manipulated and anonymity is a big problem. But as I'm deeping into cryptocurrencies I think that Zcash and it's forks like Hush - I think the technology it provides is the solution. Blockchain, decentralized, fully anonymous (z transactions). What do you guys think?

Blockchain solve the problem of fake votes, but needs some regulation in order to avoid double votes from the same users, actually it can be possible if a group do a good research and find solution for this problem
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August 31, 2017, 12:42:58 PM
#21
I think the blockchain tech is extremely good for voting, I hope it's the future of voting. Transparent and fair!
legendary
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August 29, 2017, 08:35:52 PM
#20
When the technology has advanced so much, It will be foolish for us not to use it in the elections. Conducting elections online will reduce the cost, and at the same time it will increase the participation levels.
newbie
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August 29, 2017, 08:09:24 PM
#19
Blockchains and related tech opens up so much more than just electronic selection of our representatives (representative democracy) which is universally a pretty shitty form of 'democracy' as practiced. I want much more than every few years to have one chance to directly influence the choice of a representative given too much power with little counter, thus far too open to corrupt. Bring on liquid democracy and other innovations that permit rapid, real-time cooperative decision-making at scale. Governance mechanisms emerging from Decentralized Autonomous Organizations will be worth watching, as will the efforts of a few nations (especially Estonia although that is just representative selection) and a few nonprofits (e.g. Democracy Earth) building toward test implementations in organizations.
hero member
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August 27, 2017, 12:50:05 PM
#18
Elections in anywhere in the world cannot and will never be perfect whether via manual voting or through e-voting simply because of the fact that the moment humans are involved, its bound to have some issues and that is what we are going to continue to face. Election should not be about anonymity because that will even pose a further threat to the existing system because votes will come without knowing those who are voting. How do we hold the leaders responsible, how do we know the total number of people that voted among other questions.
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August 27, 2017, 10:44:01 AM
#17
All elections are faked, because the secret government pays for the victory of the candidate they need. Perhaps electronic voting will be convenient, but voices there will also be tampered with.
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August 25, 2017, 05:29:23 PM
#16
I think e-voting will not be safe.I don't understand how the e-vote system will work.Just see the movie "Man of the Year" and you'll understand what I mean.
I always say that anything made by Human Being can be exploited  and the same goes for this electronic voting systems, There is no way that elections results from the the systems cant be rigged, Paper ballot sheets are the best way to ensure free and fair elections and even that is sometimes rigged.
newbie
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August 25, 2017, 03:28:19 PM
#15
A very good idea which could help to increase the amount of people voting
newbie
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August 25, 2017, 10:45:03 AM
#14
I don't think that e-voting will ever be as secure as paper ballots, there needs to be some kind of audit trail, we can however certainly use the blockchain in order to verify and publish voting data in a secure and transparent fashion.
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August 25, 2017, 10:18:30 AM
#13
Blockchain technology for elections? Sounds good but I would always stay with the usual paper elections, this is more reliable to me though it takes time and it has a lot of paper works.
In my country many elections are being misused using paper but if elections are done online with a blockchain system it seems like no one will cheat.
Ucy
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August 25, 2017, 07:30:52 AM
#12
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Today I saw a video how hard it is to make voting system online instead of paper votes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI) (I mean votes for president, goverment elections). Like it can be easily manipulated and anonymity is a big problem. But as I'm deeping into cryptocurrencies I think that Zcash and it's forks like Hush - I think the technology it provides is the solution. Blockchain, decentralized, fully anonymous (z transactions). What do you guys think?
This is good suggestion The Trunk.

Biometrics can actually be used to make things hard to hack or abused.
I don't fully know how Blockchain works but I think will be possible for countries to store fingerprints on Blockchain which will be impossible to hack or revealed. The finger prints can be linked to their various countries so citizens from another country won't be able to vote in countries his/her iisn't from.

All one needs to do during elections is to simply use a Finger Print Reader & vote for candidate of his/her choice on a Blockchain platform.

Blockchain voting is VERY WORKABLE
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August 25, 2017, 06:58:45 AM
#11
It can be possible, anyway no matter how you see to it that it is safe, corruption will still lead to cheating. It may not be the e-system but its the people behind it.
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