Topic: Electricity! How its killing me? What to do for power!? - page 2. (Read 3038 times)
I'd like to see someone on the coast use the waves for energy...like a mill construct of some kind...
I was asked to give abit more detail on something I explained on page 1.
(Free solar panels)
In England, there is a local Gov assistance program, that solar companies take advantage off.
The most well known one in England is probably:
http://ashadegreener.co.uk/
However there is a lot that do it since being a government backed program to have more people using solar panels, it has encourage many companies to get in on providing the service.
Most find that, once installed you can buy them off them, with a loan since if they generate a lot, it's worth for the savings and profit that they can provide. It works out cheaper that way, than buying outright sometimes.
You said Europe, so unless you country does a similar program, they probably won't exist, or if they do hard to find.
Hope it is useful to someone
(Free solar panels)
In England, there is a local Gov assistance program, that solar companies take advantage off.
The most well known one in England is probably:
http://ashadegreener.co.uk/
However there is a lot that do it since being a government backed program to have more people using solar panels, it has encourage many companies to get in on providing the service.
Most find that, once installed you can buy them off them, with a loan since if they generate a lot, it's worth for the savings and profit that they can provide. It works out cheaper that way, than buying outright sometimes.
You said Europe, so unless you country does a similar program, they probably won't exist, or if they do hard to find.
Hope it is useful to someone
I'm assuming you're actually pulling 1000W from the wall, and not just using a 1000W PSU. What do you have for cards? Have you lowered the voltages?
It might be worth it to sell your cards and buy some BFL. Even if the cards don't completely cover the cost of the BFL, the decrease in your electricity bill will make up for it in no time.
It might be worth it to sell your cards and buy some BFL. Even if the cards don't completely cover the cost of the BFL, the decrease in your electricity bill will make up for it in no time.
Use low capital cost solar
1. Plant potatoes in a sunny location
2. Wait
3. Eat potatoes
4. Pedal generator bike
5. ....
6. Profit
1. Plant potatoes in a sunny location
2. Wait
3. Eat potatoes
4. Pedal generator bike
5. ....
6. Profit
Look into natural gas generators.
I have free electricity where I live
Can I move my entire operation to your house then?
lol
Anyhow, from the research I have done, FPGA would be a FAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR better option money wise than solar.
Solar panels are EXPENSIVE as HELLLLL for only like 2000w models.
I have free electricity where I live
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/diane-tegarden/2010/04/20/april-20th-meet-tamra-fakhoorian
Oh, I am sure that is the only thing a bunch of hippies will be doing on April 20th... Quote
On April 20th my guest will be Tamra Fakhoorian of the National Algae Association, we’ll be discussing the future of biofuels.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/diane-tegarden/2010/04/20/april-20th-meet-tamra-fakhoorian
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On April 20th my guest will be Tamra Fakhoorian of the National Algae Association, we’ll be discussing the future of biofuels.
I've always thought it'd be just plain silly to buy some cheap engines off of craigslist/ebay - convert them to biodiesel and then just get restaurants to give me their leftover cooking oil.
Filter it yourself, start the engine up in a generator like fashion, huzzah!
Filter it yourself, start the engine up in a generator like fashion, huzzah!
You could always create a small nuclear powerplant in your yard.
But Solar is an incredibly cheap method in California. I live in Maryland, and was looking at Solar Panels to power my entire house, and for $40,000 I could set everything up. Plus there is a quite high tax rebate if you buy solar panels. My calculations showed the Solar Panels would pay themselves off in 4-6 years, and thats with some of the cheapest electricity in the country at $.07/KWH.
But Solar is an incredibly cheap method in California. I live in Maryland, and was looking at Solar Panels to power my entire house, and for $40,000 I could set everything up. Plus there is a quite high tax rebate if you buy solar panels. My calculations showed the Solar Panels would pay themselves off in 4-6 years, and thats with some of the cheapest electricity in the country at $.07/KWH.
Solar costs a lot of money to setup, and won't pay itself for a long time (I thought it was some 10+ years...)
You best bet to notice a quick drop in electrical costs would be to drop the core a bit, then really drop that voltage to as low as possible. You'd probably be able to drop that 1000w to around 700-800w. Other then that, I'd suggest one of those FPGAs from BFL. Like a few BFL Singles or something.
You best bet to notice a quick drop in electrical costs would be to drop the core a bit, then really drop that voltage to as low as possible. You'd probably be able to drop that 1000w to around 700-800w. Other then that, I'd suggest one of those FPGAs from BFL. Like a few BFL Singles or something.
Look on ebay for 250 watt panels,I did,they cost about $350 each.Then you need an inverter or two,$300 or so & some deep cycle batteries (1 per panel maybe??),from a semi maybe,$100 each.May even need a charger if the inverter dosen't charge.
So about $1600-$2500 & then some help from an electrician..........................
I'm just guessing as I haven't done a setup yet,but I don't think I'm too far off.
So about $1600-$2500 & then some help from an electrician..........................
I'm just guessing as I haven't done a setup yet,but I don't think I'm too far off.
I am also paying 0,2€ per kWh.. but its for fun.. so money is not everything...
here (netherlands) I pay € 0,22 for KWH. So solarpanels are almost a good deal, however, It requers a large investment and I rather invest in FPGA at the moment and it's not so sunny here (my more sunnier every year, due to global warming).
Solar energy is a good way to go. Neighbor has about some panels (are there different sizes?) mounted on his roof and he says, that one can make 100-150W during sunny day. They work effectively only for couple of hours a day as the efficiency dramatically drops when sun hits the panel from angle (if you have them statically mounted), but still, it will cut at least 1/5 of your expenses.
The only best solution is solar, which may cost a lot at first but you'll benefit in the long run by a LOT.
I live on my own and I live in an area where I don't pay for bills
Therefore I can run a huge rig and it all gets paid, for me, for free
I live on my own and I live in an area where I don't pay for bills
Therefore I can run a huge rig and it all gets paid, for me, for free
Solar / wind sounds very interesting, if an investor will pay the panels. Can you recommend any companies in Europe?
Undervolt the GPU may make it unstable?
It sure could have the potential to yes.
However like most tweaking things. Give it more volts and you can go faster.
Give it less volts and you can make it slower flows true.
With the right testing you keep it stable by lowering the speed and the voltage together.
Every graphics card is different, some will do this easier than others. This forum more than any other will have that sort of information and advice on those experienced in doing that. This is nothing more than general advice.
Many find you can lower the memory to go as slow as 300Mhz, this can allow you to push some pretty low voltages to it.
After all you don't care how bad the performance is if your using it exclusively for bitmining, as long as it doesn't end up becoming unstable.
If you are using it for general or dual purposes, I would not recommend it however.
I do think the previous poster stated solar panels.
With a limited income, it is an expensive purchase, but an investment that in the right environment pays off.
With a lot of sun comes great benefits with solar panels. Some solar panels companies here in Europe (maybe the same is true in CA) will even give you the panels for free, install it for free, but they keep all the "profits" after usage.
You just get the reward of never having a electricity bill ever again. It's worth it if you don't want to worry about the investment factor.
There is also wind turbines, but I don't know as much as those.
One thing to consider though is if you can save money by using less electricity.
Undervolting in the right place I've seen really powerful GPU's drop to half their normal usage by massively lowering the voltage going to the memory and obviously declocking the memory aswell. Not like you need it for Mining anyway.
Do abit of Google searching and i'm sure with the above information you can find something that works out for you.
With a limited income, it is an expensive purchase, but an investment that in the right environment pays off.
With a lot of sun comes great benefits with solar panels. Some solar panels companies here in Europe (maybe the same is true in CA) will even give you the panels for free, install it for free, but they keep all the "profits" after usage.
You just get the reward of never having a electricity bill ever again. It's worth it if you don't want to worry about the investment factor.
There is also wind turbines, but I don't know as much as those.
One thing to consider though is if you can save money by using less electricity.
Undervolting in the right place I've seen really powerful GPU's drop to half their normal usage by massively lowering the voltage going to the memory and obviously declocking the memory aswell. Not like you need it for Mining anyway.
Do abit of Google searching and i'm sure with the above information you can find something that works out for you.
Thanks for the help! Do you have a rig that you would like to share some info on?
Thanks!
No Problem.
I have 2 other Rigs I have at home (than the one mentioned in my signature), one is essentially a home server and the other is a gaming PC that uses an nvidia card, however they are consider in-practical for bit mining, so only my laptop I use for bitmining, (HP Dv6 range) that has a Llano APU + a discrete card. Details of those two processors in my signature.
Concerning the solar panels, I don't have any direct experience with it, but I got a friend in the south of england who got half their roof covered in solar panels (also another in the south of france). It really didn't cost them anything. They just had to own the home and be in an ideal location and the house it self (the roof) pointing in the preferred direction. The system he has will handle 3-6kwh worth. He barely makes use of all, he's not a huge tech junkie, at least not yet, he just liked the idea of no electricity bill. Which it achieved.
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