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Luke-Jr

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Quote from: GrapeApe on October 15, 2014, 06:00:40 AM

Hey I'm still curious about the multisig abuse. Why would someone create a multisig address that nobody has the keys for, in essence locking those funds up forever? Are they just a nuisance (spam) or is there some kind of malicious intent I'm not seeing here?

Also how would you know if nobody has the keys for the multisig? Is there some kind of verification on your part? I don't how that would work.

For example, a 1-of-20 multisig where the first key is the real owner, and the other 19 are strings of data that can't even be valid keys.
They only need the 1 valid key to spend it later.

GrapeApe

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Hey I'm still curious about the multisig abuse. Why would someone create a multisig address that nobody has the keys for, in essence locking those funds up forever? Are they just a nuisance (spam) or is there some kind of malicious intent I'm not seeing here?

Also how would you know if nobody has the keys for the multisig? Is there some kind of verification on your part? I don't how that would work.

-ck

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Quote from: RoadStress on October 15, 2014, 01:12:17 AM

By one asic you mean one full asic board I assume since it hashes for half speed. This happened 3 times during last week, but they were for a shorter period. Right now this is an ongoing issue. I can restart the miner to see if it goes to full speed or I can try another pool for one week to see if this is happening there too. What would you suggest? Is there anything that I can check/do on the miner to extract some valuable information before touching it?

Yes one board. The person I spotted this happening to found that restarting them fixed it (I spotted it from the pool side and it looked like ~half hashrate). I have no idea what the problem is or what to look for, but probably get the diagnostics from all the asics and report it to spondoolies before restarting.

RoadStress

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Quote from: -ck on October 15, 2014, 12:42:32 AM

Quote from: RoadStress on October 15, 2014, 12:28:48 AM

I have a question. I was just checking my miners and I saw this:

Code:

12 Hours	4,055.16 Gh/s
3 Hours         2,780.54 Gh/s
22.5 Minutes	2,114.32 Gh/s

I logged into my miner and it's hashing at a steady 4500GH with no downswings during the last 24 hours. What is going on?

Hey roadstress that looks suspiciously like an issue I spotted with the sp30s. They can think they're still hashing at full hashrate but one asic stops generating shares.

By one asic you mean one full asic board I assume since it hashes for half speed. This happened 3 times during last week, but they were for a shorter period. Right now this is an ongoing issue. I can restart the miner to see if it goes to full speed or I can try another pool for one week to see if this is happening there too. What would you suggest? Is there anything that I can check/do on the miner to extract some valuable information before touching it?

mavericklm

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Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:24:19 AM

I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

Will my antminer s1's work with that diff? 1024?

-ck

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Quote from: RoadStress on October 15, 2014, 12:28:48 AM

I have a question. I was just checking my miners and I saw this:

Code:

12 Hours	4,055.16 Gh/s
3 Hours         2,780.54 Gh/s
22.5 Minutes	2,114.32 Gh/s

I logged into my miner and it's hashing at a steady 4500GH with no downswings during the last 24 hours. What is going on?

Hey roadstress that looks suspiciously like an issue I spotted with the sp30s. They can think they're still hashing at full hashrate but one asic stops generating shares.

RoadStress

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I have a question. I was just checking my miners and I saw this:

Code:

12 Hours	4,055.16 Gh/s
3 Hours         2,780.54 Gh/s
22.5 Minutes	2,114.32 Gh/s

I logged into my miner and it's hashing at a steady 4500GH with no downswings during the last 24 hours. What is going on?

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: mdude77 on October 13, 2014, 11:28:00 AM

Quote from: Miner99er on October 13, 2014, 10:56:05 AM

Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:24:19 AM

I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

Flashed 1 S4 to the latest firmware... Miner showing 2Th/s, Pool showing 700GH/s. Difficulty on the box is showing 512, and everyone has recommended 2048 or higher. Hope this can be sorted out soon so I can move these miners back to eligius.

I believe CK has a workaround in the latest cgminer. Not yet officially in the firmware..

Unfortunately not. I tried a simple hack on their driver and it only partially helped. They just need to get off their arses and fix their driver which appears broken.

mdude77

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Quote from: Miner99er on October 13, 2014, 10:56:05 AM

Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:24:19 AM

I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

Flashed 1 S4 to the latest firmware... Miner showing 2Th/s, Pool showing 700GH/s. Difficulty on the box is showing 512, and everyone has recommended 2048 or higher. Hope this can be sorted out soon so I can move these miners back to eligius.

I believe CK has a workaround in the latest cgminer. Not yet officially in the firmware..

M

wizkid057

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Quote from: mdude77 on October 13, 2014, 10:42:38 AM

Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:24:19 AM

I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

Stock S4s have difficulty with lower starting difficulties.

M

I stand by my previous statement. Good hardware and software properly handle vardiff.

Eligius counts the accepted shares it gets. If your setup isn't sending them or finding them properly.... that's not Eligius's fault.

Sometimes pool sode kludges can be implemented to work around or baby these broken miners, but there is so much nonsense out there these days....

Miner99er

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Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:24:19 AM

I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

Flashed 1 S4 to the latest firmware... Miner showing 2Th/s, Pool showing 700GH/s. Difficulty on the box is showing 512, and everyone has recommended 2048 or higher. Hope this can be sorted out soon so I can move these miners back to eligius.

GrapeApe

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Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:43:21 AM

If there is a key used that no one on the planet has the private key for (ie, junk data) then that is a misuse.

Now forgive my lack of imagination but what's the point of the "junk data"?

wizkid057

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Quote from: GrapeApe on October 13, 2014, 10:37:17 AM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 07, 2014, 06:39:55 PM

Quote from: praeluceo on October 07, 2014, 05:23:07 PM

Quote from: wizkid057 on October 07, 2014, 12:54:02 PM

Quote from: IamNotSure on October 07, 2014, 12:49:44 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 04, 2014, 03:49:03 PM

Standard transactions:
- OP_RETURN: allow up to 80 bytes

Hello Luke-Jr

pardon my ignorance & my french

Does that mean that Eligius will allow counterparty-XCP transactions (if encoded in OP_RETURN) or do you still plan to filter them out (I think you are treating them like spam because they're still multisig transactions) ? [/list]

OP RETURN would be appropriate. Abusing multisig is not.

So for those who aren't entirely sure what they're talking about (myself) what would constitute a violation of multisig? And how would this affect using a p2sh wallet? Or does this have nothing to do with p2sh wallets?

Multisig is fine. Hiding data by pretending it is multisig when it is not, is a problem.
The conclusive results do nothing to hinder P2SH multisig use.

Well forgive my ignorance as well but what are they using the data stored in the tx for and how does multisig make this happen as oppose to a standard tx.
I guess I'm asking the same thing (or further explanation of). What constitutes a violation of multisig?

If there is a key used that no one on the planet has the private key for (ie, junk data) then that is a misuse.

mdude77

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Quote from: wizkid057 on October 13, 2014, 10:24:19 AM

I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

Stock S4s have difficulty with lower starting difficulties.

M

GrapeApe

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 07, 2014, 06:39:55 PM

Quote from: praeluceo on October 07, 2014, 05:23:07 PM

Quote from: wizkid057 on October 07, 2014, 12:54:02 PM

Quote from: IamNotSure on October 07, 2014, 12:49:44 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 04, 2014, 03:49:03 PM

Standard transactions:
- OP_RETURN: allow up to 80 bytes

Hello Luke-Jr

pardon my ignorance & my french

Does that mean that Eligius will allow counterparty-XCP transactions (if encoded in OP_RETURN) or do you still plan to filter them out (I think you are treating them like spam because they're still multisig transactions) ? [/list]

OP RETURN would be appropriate. Abusing multisig is not.

So for those who aren't entirely sure what they're talking about (myself) what would constitute a violation of multisig? And how would this affect using a p2sh wallet? Or does this have nothing to do with p2sh wallets?

Multisig is fine. Hiding data by pretending it is multisig when it is not, is a problem.
The conclusive results do nothing to hinder P2SH multisig use.

Well forgive my ignorance as well but what are they using the data stored in the tx for and how does multisig make this happen as oppose to a standard tx.
I guess I'm asking the same thing (or further explanation of). What constitutes a violation of multisig?

wizkid057

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I will probably be giving the default Eligius difficulty a bump soon. Pretty much anything that sits at 128 difficulty is pointless to run these days anyway. Might take it to 1024 for a minimum difficulty.

But the above is correct, there is no way to custom set a difficulty. This is also not necessary with proper hardware and software. The pool chooses the appropriate difficulty.

mdude77

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Quote from: Miner99er on October 13, 2014, 10:17:53 AM

I can't figure out how to set a higher difficulty for eligius (yes, using Antminer S4's)

Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm not seeing it anywhere on the FAQ or searching the board. Thanks in advance.

As far as I know that's not possible. I believe upgrading the cgminer version to 4.6.1 will allow your S4 to handle ramping up to the right difficulty better than stock.

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Miner99er

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I can't figure out how to set a higher difficulty for eligius (yes, using Antminer S4's)

Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm not seeing it anywhere on the FAQ or searching the board. Thanks in advance.

btcmner

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 12, 2014, 10:30:26 PM

Quote from: btcmner on October 12, 2014, 10:22:15 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 09, 2014, 03:05:33 PM

Sorry, but there is nothing relevant there, except for the mention that the tube does not work with Eligius. Sad

Too bad...

See section 5b

I tried with BFGMiner last month using these instructions, but it didn't help : the miner loses its connection when a block is found.
Is there a bug fix which would make this work better, now ?

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: btcmner on October 12, 2014, 10:22:15 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on October 09, 2014, 03:05:33 PM

Quote from: Ermak on October 09, 2014, 03:01:57 PM

BE200 Jet Stratum Miner V 5.47 programa controller does not see such lines as settings (stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334)

[Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Tube Setup [HD]

Sorry, but there is nothing relevant there, except for the mention that the tube does not work with Eligius. Sad

Too bad...

See section 5b

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