Topic: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 28. (Read 1061470 times)

I've been mining on this pool for a while and these concerns came up for me as well when I saw myself slipping in the queue and not really understanding why but as time went on I've started to grasp it more and the one thing that I have found to be true is that I always get paid what is owed to me -- even if sometimes it does take a bit.  I've started to understand this manual payout thing a bit more and it fits with what I've seen....  it sometimes seems like I'm slipping in the queue but then all of a sudden at one shot everyone (or nearly everyone) in the queue gets paid in one shot which I've come to understand is the manual payout thing.

One of the most important things that I've learned in looking at myself and my own attitudes is that the saying that the customer who pays the least always complains the most and that kind of seems to fit the bill here in the inverse....  It took me a while to fully grasp that my Antminer S5 is a tiny tiny tiny tiny drop in the bucket.... I always knew it wasn't much but I didn't really understand how little....  I don't do this for profits but more of something to play with so it hasn't hurt me to find that I'm not going to turn a profit but people who are buying a $300 miner expecting to get rich are going to be sorely let down no matter which pool they join.... and while some of those facts might become clearer faster on a small pool such as this even if it feels like you're making more somewhere else, you really aren't.  The other thing that small time miners have to realize is that we *NEED* the miners that appear to be hogging all of the payouts because our little miners aren't going to get anything if we are on our own.....  even if a huge miner shows up on the pool and starts hogging the automatic payouts they are helping us find blocks which is the only way ANYONE in the pool is going to get paid.

I'm not an expert at all... far from it.... but these are things that I've started to grasp....  I thank wizkid for all of his work and I haven't found ANY reason not to trust him.  The fact that he is still working on this pool with as small as it's become tells me, in it's self, that he is doing it for the love of it and not the money or glory which is exactly the person I would trust more.

You have to admit that a 2-minute old forum account posting in my thread here *immediately* after banning another relatively new account that's trying to stir up trouble (where there is none)... He went offline, your account was made, and continued the topic (albeit much more politely than the deleted posts, thanks)... is just a bit suspicious.  No one really posts in this thread much anymore as it is, so... yeah.

Anyway, all I see here is someone on the internet trying to cause trouble for no apparent reason.  The user opened no support tickets, sent no emails, nothing... yet feels the need to try and spread nonsense here publicly... to which I say simply, it is the internet... and I can't really expect much better, unfortunately.

When I read that post it just scared me is all. This is my first time posting because I never wanted to before. I am not making accusations and I didn't mean to come across like that.
You have to admit its scary to read that with no idea whats going on.

How are brand new 2 minute-old accounts able to immediately post in this thread? heh.

I'll bite, and the for last time.  (Obvious duplicate account is obvious).

As I already explained in my previous post, the coinbaser (which handles automatic payouts) has been on and offline during the overhaul.  I will get everyone paid in a manual payout, like I always do and always have, when the overhaul and time permits.

If you have actual concerns about me actually doing the manual payout, simply mine elsewhere.  I'm pretty sure my track record on this stands on its own.  Right now the payout queue is at something like ~55 BTC (actually owed by the pool, payout queue page includes estimates for the next block).  During previous upgrades when the pool had much more of the network's hash rate I've done manual payouts over a relatively short periods totaling *thousands* of BTC, when they were worth more on the market even.  I find it kind of amusing and offensive that anyone would question my motives at this point.

Again, actual concerns, open a ticket.

I haven't been paid out either. It looks true that no one has been paid in 3 blocks. Can you please explain this and let us know when you are going to pay out to everyone?

*sigh*

It's nonsense like the above that suck the enjoyment out of volunteer work like I do running Eligius.  Pool op has been busy working on updates/upgrades... so the pool must be going under and they must be running off with the goods!

The primary coinbaser has been off and on since I completed the hardware side of the upgrades and migration.  I have several fail-safes and security related items that double check the coinbase payouts for continuity.  If anything doesn't look right, things go into fail-safe and I'm notified, which as most are already aware and can be confirmed from many previous instances of the same occurring.  Fail-safe funds end up in an offline wallet, and then are simply manually paid to miners.

Long story short, I'm pressing forward with the software side of the new updates as quickly as possible, necessitating major back end changes.  While working on some aspects I have to take some of the fail-safe and security items offline, which triggers the coinbaser fail-safe to prevent potential problems.

For the record, I didn't get any new-post notifications from bitcointalk about this thread since my last post until this morning.  As is pretty obvious from my post history, I tend to address question/comments/concerns on this thread regularly.  This "Sosoft" user also hasn't opened any tickets, either.  For the moment I suppose I'll leave the posts above for context and to highlight the motives behind them.

Anyway, I'm continuing with my plans for an overhaul to Eligius.  I fully admit that this is, unfortunately, taking much much longer than I had originally anticipated.  A two fold issue, since the project itself became more complex than anticipated, and that my time available for my volunteer efforts here has lessened.  The latter I'm working to improve, however.

Edit: Also, for the record, it's probably worth noting the identity of Eligius's most beneficial donor over the last several months: myself.  Keeping in mind that Eligius imposes no fees and works solely on donations, out of both overall necessity and based on confidence that things will greatly improve around here once my overhaul is complete I've purchased the majority of the new hardware in use for the pool out of pocket.  It is my hope that Eligius will continue to be a sort of public service to the bitcoin community, and I'm doing what I can do keep things moving forward.

Thanks everyone for your support!

-wk

Edit: "Sosoft"'s reply has gained him a spot on my automatic post deletion list.

If you have a legitimate question/comment/concern, please open a ticket.

Just got a message back from another now past user. Its happening to him too.
This all started going down when Mind Your Own Business left the pool.
All the payout from the blocks are going to the address
1ChANGeATMH8dFnj39wGTjfjudUtLspzXr
Looks like everyone is mining for just this one person's payout now. Get rich and get out. Its going down.

This is the 4th block we have got where I was in que for a pay out and I didn't get one. I even got thrown back to people being ahead of me in que. Eligius is now defunct. I am so sad.
I came here to report what has been happening to me. Next I am going to the other forum and report there too.
People beware. Something it going on and no one is talking.
One more thing. Since you are ignoring me and not responding I promise to double my efforts to expose what you are up to everywhere I know of where people will listen. All you had to do is explain what's happening if there is a problem.

I've been in the payout Que for payout in the next block for the last three blocks. What gives?

Sorry for the few minutes of DDoS related downtime.  Was driving when I got the notification that automated mitigation failed.

Should be fine now.

Working on mitigating a DDoS attack.......

I've *finally* completed some of the backend upgrades/migrations I've been trying to finish for months now.  Not much new on the front-end yet, but the backend is prepped!

New things:

A change for helping people behind weird firewalls:  Pick a port and mine.  It's now possible to mine at Eligius on any TCP port you desire.  Just follow the minor restrictions below:
* stratum.mining.eligius.st will now allow stratum mining on any port except 80, 443, 8337, and 9337.
* port80.mining.eligius.st will allow stratum mining on any port except 443, 8337 and 9337. (Limited redundancy.)
* port443.mining.eligius.st will allow stratum mining on any port except 80, 8337 and 9337. (Limited redundancy.)
* gbt.mining.eligius.st will allow GBT mining on ports 8337 and 9337.

* Some ease of typing aliases: s.m.eligius.st (stratum), gbt.eligius.st (GBT)

* Minimum global work difficulty has been increased to 1024.  I still think this is low, given today's network difficulty.  However, any miner not able to keep up with difficulty 1024 shares is not going to be earning enough to bother anyway.  For reference, as of this writing a difficulty 1024 share has a maximum PPS value of about 5.9 satoshi (0.000000059 BTC).  So, yeah... probably going to up that some more later.  This should also help with those who were claiming to have issues with the lower starting difficulty here with some equipment.

There is also now a TOR hidden service for stratum mining, due to some demand.

* yhsfsswrjjgiabfu.onion port 3334 or 80

That said, a few things need to be pointed out about the TOR address:  First, mining over TOR is a horrible idea.  You WILL lose some percentage of earnings due to latency.  Second, I personally loathe TOR.  So if the hidden service stops working for some reason, it's not going to be a priority to get it back online.  I've brought it back as a courtesy because so many people seem to think they need it for mining, and it is setup in a redundant way so it shouldn't have any issues.  As long as you're aware of the implications surrounding the use of TOR for mining, by all means.  But as a warning, any support tickets from people mining over TOR complaining about connectivity, low server-side hash rate, rejects, etc will be ignored.

More on the way.  Now that the major backend upgrades are complete I can focus more on the front end updates.

Please let me know of any issues you encounter.  I will be monitoring everything closely.

That was bumming me out too..   So I swung my miners over to a different pool to switch things up for a bit

Nope, it's worse.  It's statistics.

Again almost 11 days and no block. This is ridiculous...

can't wait !!!! hurry up all ready   JK  !! but i so hope it does what you said and others come.....

Sorry for the lack of updates.  I've been pretty busy both with pool related and unrelated real world projects.

Still making progress on the updates here.  I'm actually in the final phase of shifting the back end over to the new equipment, although for the time being still running the existing pool software.  However, once that's done I'll be able to better run the new code is real-time shadow mode along side the existing code to help weed out any remaining difficulties.

This has, admittedly, taken much longer than I anticipated, and most of that can be attributed to a lot of my time being taken up by other obligations lately.  Most of that has finally started to actually wind down, and I'm getting more time open for completing this project.  Overall I have sometimes up to 14 hours per day allocated towards completion of my various projects (mostly normal paid work), and the work on the pool hasn't been getting enough of that time recently.  As I've mentioned previously, I can't justify putting updates to Eligius at a higher priority than my normal full time work.  It's just the way things logically have to go.  Lately donations aren't quite covering everything cost-wise for the pool, so most of the new hardware going into the updates here are simply being donated by me personally and some local colleagues who have helped with acquiring some hardware.  Don't take this as complaining or a plea for donations or anything, because it isn't.  I enjoy working on the pool, and I'm willing to personally support operating costs, hardware costs, etc that aren't covered by donations as long as I'm able to do so.  I still believe that Eligius is really important for the mining community, and I think the upcoming changes will emphasize that even more so.

Again, apologies for the delays and lack of progress updates, and thanks to everyone for their support!

As a note on the hardware updates, there may be a few brief periods of connectivity instability/connection drops over the next few days as I transition everything over to the new hardware.  Overall, assuming all goes well, I doubt anyone will even notice.  If for some reason you're mining directly to an Eligius IP, make sure you're using the hostname stratum.mining.eligius.st or the alias s.m.eligius.st so that you aren't left in the dark during the transition.

-wk

Any update on the refresh?   Looking forward to it!

Since they don't charge any fees, I expect they always pay out very well.  In addition, they pay directly to your address, so you have "new" or "clean" bitcoins.

You can look at the stats for any address that is paid in a block that Eligius mines.  Everything they do is transparent.

You're measuring shares in BTC, but they're not BTC.