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Topic: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 64. (Read 1061417 times)

legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
How does the pool run without taking a % fee or transaction fees from blocks? Solely from donations?

Currently donations and volunteer work fully support the pool.  No need to have a fee.

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Greetings Eligius Miners,

So, today BIP66, the enforcement of v3-only blocks, took effect and it turns out a couple of large pools were using a broken mining setup that landed them on the wrong side of a chain fork.  It looks like it cost those pools about 150 BTC in lost blocks due to them mining on top of invalid blocks.  F2Pool and Antpool specifically.... (all of the gory details available in the #bitcoin-dev logs from the past couple of hours.)

Eligius was mining on the correct chain the entire time and Eligius nodes and miners never saw the invalid chain, so no wasted work was done here.

I went through the invalid chain and grabbed transactions from those blocks and made sure they were added to Eligius's memory pool for prioritized mining on the correct chain in an effort to help out.  That way no one on an older or broken client would see a fully confirmed transaction drop to zero confirmations.  It looks like Eligius was able to mine a block just as I was pushing those transactions to our mining servers and most of them were included.  The rest appear to have already been mined by other pools and the few stragglers are prioritized in Eligius's memory pool for our next block.

So, carry on!  Business as usual here. Smiley

Thanks for mining with us!

-wk
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1024
How does the pool run without taking a % fee or transaction fees from blocks? Solely from donations?
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
Looking at logs, moments after BTC Guild shutdown someone started a DDoS against the web server.  *sigh*

The timing has the small conspiracy theorist part of me thinking that another pool did it to prevent refugees from BTC Guild from considering Eligius...

Oh well, fixed.

Going to do some brief maintenance on the web server while I'm at it.

-wk

Well, given the timing, I wouldn't call it a "theory" anymore.

Btw: Eleuthria mentioned that there were some weird things going on against BTCGuild and that he wanted to forward his findings to Organofcorti. Are the three of you in contact regarding these issues? Just asking so I don't have to mumble the non-working magic words :-)

It was about the recent bad luck at both pools. I didn't find anything impossible about the luck at either pool (or both combined). If you're wondering what I consider "impossible", you can use as an example GHash.io's luck from August last year to end of May this year.

Thanks for the quick response. Regarding the bad luck, a - maybe silly - question: Could it theoretically be that shares are being redirected directly at the machine, i.e. has anybody ever made a tcpdump for a longer period of time from different machines to see where the shares are going to? Or is this nonsense, i.e. would this be an attack which could be discovered too easy?
Using some kind of redirect won't affect the pool's luck because the shares wouldn't be counted against the pool.  Now, withholding a block solution... that would certainly impact the luck.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1124
What a run today!
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
Looking at logs, moments after BTC Guild shutdown someone started a DDoS against the web server.  *sigh*

The timing has the small conspiracy theorist part of me thinking that another pool did it to prevent refugees from BTC Guild from considering Eligius...

Oh well, fixed.

Going to do some brief maintenance on the web server while I'm at it.

-wk

Well, given the timing, I wouldn't call it a "theory" anymore.

Btw: Eleuthria mentioned that there were some weird things going on against BTCGuild and that he wanted to forward his findings to Organofcorti. Are the three of you in contact regarding these issues? Just asking so I don't have to mumble the non-working magic words :-)

It was about the recent bad luck at both pools. I didn't find anything impossible about the luck at either pool (or both combined). If you're wondering what I consider "impossible", you can use as an example GHash.io's luck from August last year to end of May this year.

Thanks for the quick response. Regarding the bad luck, a - maybe silly - question: Could it theoretically be that shares are being redirected directly at the machine, i.e. has anybody ever made a tcpdump for a longer period of time from different machines to see where the shares are going to? Or is this nonsense, i.e. would this be an attack which could be discovered too easy?

If I'm understanding you correctly, shares that were "redirected" wouldn't count toward the pool luck, and so wouldn't affect the pool's luck, just the pool's hashrate.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1124
Looking at logs, moments after BTC Guild shutdown someone started a DDoS against the web server.  *sigh*

The timing has the small conspiracy theorist part of me thinking that another pool did it to prevent refugees from BTC Guild from considering Eligius...

Oh well, fixed.

Going to do some brief maintenance on the web server while I'm at it.

-wk

Well, given the timing, I wouldn't call it a "theory" anymore.

Btw: Eleuthria mentioned that there were some weird things going on against BTCGuild and that he wanted to forward his findings to Organofcorti. Are the three of you in contact regarding these issues? Just asking so I don't have to mumble the non-working magic words :-)

It was about the recent bad luck at both pools. I didn't find anything impossible about the luck at either pool (or both combined). If you're wondering what I consider "impossible", you can use as an example GHash.io's luck from August last year to end of May this year.

Thanks for the quick response. Regarding the bad luck, a - maybe silly - question: Could it theoretically be that shares are being redirected directly at the machine, i.e. has anybody ever made a tcpdump for a longer period of time from different machines to see where the shares are going to? Or is this nonsense, i.e. would this be an attack which could be discovered too easy?
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
Looking at logs, moments after BTC Guild shutdown someone started a DDoS against the web server.  *sigh*

The timing has the small conspiracy theorist part of me thinking that another pool did it to prevent refugees from BTC Guild from considering Eligius...

Oh well, fixed.

Going to do some brief maintenance on the web server while I'm at it.

-wk

Well, given the timing, I wouldn't call it a "theory" anymore.

Btw: Eleuthria mentioned that there were some weird things going on against BTCGuild and that he wanted to forward his findings to Organofcorti. Are the three of you in contact regarding these issues? Just asking so I don't have to mumble the non-working magic words :-)

It was about the recent bad luck at both pools. I didn't find anything impossible about the luck at either pool (or both combined). If you're wondering what I consider "impossible", you can use as an example GHash.io's luck from August last year to end of May this year.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1124
Looking at logs, moments after BTC Guild shutdown someone started a DDoS against the web server.  *sigh*

The timing has the small conspiracy theorist part of me thinking that another pool did it to prevent refugees from BTC Guild from considering Eligius...

Oh well, fixed.

Going to do some brief maintenance on the web server while I'm at it.

-wk

Well, given the timing, I wouldn't call it a "theory" anymore.

Btw: Eleuthria mentioned that there were some weird things going on against BTCGuild and that he wanted to forward his findings to Organofcorti. Are the three of you in contact regarding these issues? Just asking so I don't have to mumble the non-working magic words :-)
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
And finally got that manual payout out of the way.

300.06462737 BTC in manual payments applied to balances from tx 641c5170dedefaa1772396202fb1e241d80bf87e25dfef58fe9e75ec8a6c05e4
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
Looking at logs, moments after BTC Guild shutdown someone started a DDoS against the web server.  *sigh*

The timing has the small conspiracy theorist part of me thinking that another pool did it to prevent refugees from BTC Guild from considering Eligius...

Oh well, fixed.

Going to do some brief maintenance on the web server while I'm at it.

-wk
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Wanne join in the Minin Pool.
Does it work so far good?

Site is actuall down?

reagrds
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
its over, wow its showing a hash rate
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
13,000TH and climbing.  Very nice bump in the past 48 hours.

woohoo.  people jumping from BTCGuild I'd guess.

M
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
Where am I?
13,000TH and climbing.  Very nice bump in the past 48 hours.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
Greetings Eligius Miners,

Sorry about the web server this morning.  It looks like it was DoS'd earlier and my fail-over decided to fail so it never came back up until I kicked it. Sad  I'll work on that.

As always, the web server/stats have no impact on mining/rewards/etc.  So even if the site is down, everything is fine really.

On another note, there is this stupid spam/DoS attack happening against bitcoin right now where some entity is trying to fill up the blocks of miners with trash.  I'll point out that Eligius is effectively filtering about 99% of this garbage, so by mining here you're helping to thwart such nonsense.  I've gotten a few questions about why Eligius seems to be mining such small blocks compared to other pools, and this is why.  We're not mining the spam.  As of this moment it looks like Eligius is filtering something like 15-20 spam transactions per second.  Sad   I would hope more pools would be on board with keeping the block chain clean, but judging by the spam content of everyone else's blocks this doesn't seem to be the case.  In reality, legitimate transaction volume is pretty normal looking.

As for a manual catch up of the payout queue, I've admittedly been slacking... a whole lot else going on with Eligius and otherwise and I just haven't had a chance to sit down and do one with all of the requisite verification, which takes a bit of time.  I'm going to make it a point to try and do this sometime today/tonight as I don't want anyone having their payout delayed any more than normal.

Thanks!

-wk

Thanks for the update  Wink
If anybody wants to read up on the spam transactions, have a look here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/next-level-bitcoin-stress-test-june-29-30-1300-gmt-2015-1098263.
legendary
Activity: 1223
Merit: 1006
Greetings Eligius Miners,

Sorry about the web server this morning.  It looks like it was DoS'd earlier and my fail-over decided to fail so it never came back up until I kicked it. Sad  I'll work on that.

As always, the web server/stats have no impact on mining/rewards/etc.  So even if the site is down, everything is fine really.

On another note, there is this stupid spam/DoS attack happening against bitcoin right now where some entity is trying to fill up the blocks of miners with trash.  I'll point out that Eligius is effectively filtering about 99% of this garbage, so by mining here you're helping to thwart such nonsense.  I've gotten a few questions about why Eligius seems to be mining such small blocks compared to other pools, and this is why.  We're not mining the spam.  As of this moment it looks like Eligius is filtering something like 15-20 spam transactions per second.  Sad   I would hope more pools would be on board with keeping the block chain clean, but judging by the spam content of everyone else's blocks this doesn't seem to be the case.  In reality, legitimate transaction volume is pretty normal looking.

As for a manual catch up of the payout queue, I've admittedly been slacking... a whole lot else going on with Eligius and otherwise and I just haven't had a chance to sit down and do one with all of the requisite verification, which takes a bit of time.  I'm going to make it a point to try and do this sometime today/tonight as I don't want anyone having their payout delayed any more than normal.

Thanks!

-wk
sr. member
Activity: 318
Merit: 250
Page is working again
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
Don't RECOMAND this shit pool something definitely wrong with the payout queue...

I have been trying to say this for days that something is wrong with the payout queue, no one seems to care. My payout queue started at 13 blocks till payout, 10 blocks later still at 11 blocks till payout.  I should be at 3 blocks till payout, starting to question if they seriously broke something during the last upgrade.

Some of my friends I recommended to this pool who have the hashing power to enter payout queue immediately 17 blocks later and 7 days still no payout.

I like the pool, I just wish they would fix the problem.

I don't currently mine here, but I believe the payout queue here is first in, last out. Have you taken that into account?

They haven't.  I have been mining here for something like a year and a half and this happens all the time.  People don't understand how it works and they post about it here.  It might be helpful though if wizkid stayed more on top of the queue length.  So that maybe if it gets beyond 10 he can do a manual payout and get it caught up again.  But for a zero fees pool I can understand why he wouldn't make it such a huge priority.
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 10
same to me ...
donator
Activity: 1057
Merit: 1021
I am still hashing as well.  Just can't get to website.
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