Yeah, totally agree as much as AI is a super-intelligent tool designed to assist humans a most endeavours we must all recognize the risk it poses on human life too.
The major problem with such a power tool is how easy it is for bad individuals to use it for illegal and unlawful activities. Before more harm is caused, it is better to halt it and find better control measures before it causes more havoc.
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November 16, 2023, 02:39:57 PM
November 16, 2023, 01:54:57 PM
Artificial intelligence will be used with bad intentions in any case and there is nothing we can do about it. The example you gave concerns individual people, although there may be many such examples. But artificial intelligence, if it improves and this process gets out of human control, threatens the further existence of humanity. This is much more catastrophic than individual harm to a specific person. The development of artificial intelligence must be placed under strict control from the very beginning, even if it seems that it will not think of destroying humanity. But why take such a risk?
You cannot stop what's already happening and people are taking advantage and making profit out of it. Those individuals who are only looking for profits and taking advantage of this AI technology will never stop. And criminals will also take advantage of it in order to do crimes. A thing is bad only when it is used for bad purposes. Even if you try to shut it down right now, the concept of AI is already out there and other people will always find a way to use it to their advantage. If a bad person gets his hands on this, then it will be used for bad purposes. If not then we are safe. And the thing about artificial intelligent having their own mind and coming up with the plan to destroy humanity may not be as dangerous as you think. What AI learns are the information available on the internet. It can do calculation and find similarities to answer your question or in simple words guess the next word you are trying to say.
It is still not perfect and if people are really that concerned about it, then changing some codes won't hurt that much. I guess there are still time for us to fix it.
November 16, 2023, 08:41:21 AM
Image generation using AI have gone to a stage right now where you can generate fake vulgar photos of people. There has been some incident regarding this. The girl was continuously blackmailed and the person who blackmailed her took money from her from time to time. And when she was unable to give any money the blackmailer threatened her saying that he will expose those photos on the internet.
After further investigations it was found that those photos were fake and it was originally generated by some defect AI some other generative AI. People has taken AI to a level where it is becoming life-threatening. Imagine a girl committing suicide because of this. That wouldn't be a surprise because those images are really convincing. If a person who have never seen a woman on that state or without clothes can never tell the difference. The case I was talking about, it was only confirmed after their family check the picture and the girl.
It is not necessary to bring down the entire AI system. But we need to make sure that people don't use it for bad purposes.
Artificial intelligence will be used with bad intentions in any case and there is nothing we can do about it. The example you gave concerns individual people, although there may be many such examples. But artificial intelligence, if it improves and this process gets out of human control, threatens the further existence of humanity. This is much more catastrophic than individual harm to a specific person. The development of artificial intelligence must be placed under strict control from the very beginning, even if it seems that it will not think of destroying humanity. But why take such a risk? After further investigations it was found that those photos were fake and it was originally generated by some defect AI some other generative AI. People has taken AI to a level where it is becoming life-threatening. Imagine a girl committing suicide because of this. That wouldn't be a surprise because those images are really convincing. If a person who have never seen a woman on that state or without clothes can never tell the difference. The case I was talking about, it was only confirmed after their family check the picture and the girl.
It is not necessary to bring down the entire AI system. But we need to make sure that people don't use it for bad purposes.
October 16, 2023, 01:38:56 PM
Image generation using AI have gone to a stage right now where you can generate fake vulgar photos of people. There has been some incident regarding this. The girl was continuously blackmailed and the person who blackmailed her took money from her from time to time. And when she was unable to give any money the blackmailer threatened her saying that he will expose those photos on the internet.
After further investigations it was found that those photos were fake and it was originally generated by some defect AI some other generative AI. People has taken AI to a level where it is becoming life-threatening. Imagine a girl committing suicide because of this. That wouldn't be a surprise because those images are really convincing. If a person who have never seen a woman on that state or without clothes can never tell the difference. The case I was talking about, it was only confirmed after their family check the picture and the girl.
It is not necessary to bring down the entire AI system. But we need to make sure that people don't use it for bad purposes.
After further investigations it was found that those photos were fake and it was originally generated by some defect AI some other generative AI. People has taken AI to a level where it is becoming life-threatening. Imagine a girl committing suicide because of this. That wouldn't be a surprise because those images are really convincing. If a person who have never seen a woman on that state or without clothes can never tell the difference. The case I was talking about, it was only confirmed after their family check the picture and the girl.
It is not necessary to bring down the entire AI system. But we need to make sure that people don't use it for bad purposes.
October 16, 2023, 11:37:42 AM
It turns out that lately I very rarely support the decisions and actions of Elon Musk, except, of course, for his space programs. But here Musk is completely right. People must limit the capabilities of artificial intelligence in areas where the decisions made could threaten significant harm to humanity. No matter what anyone says about the usefulness of AI, one wrong or deliberately wrong decision could easily destroy our civilization. It is necessary to draw up general rules for working with AI and to insert into the activity programs for AI a ban on killing or harming a person. This was clearly stated in the first books of the fantasy genre. Such moments are not accidental. Because the past, present and future are closely interconnected with the theoretical ability to penetrate through time in different directions.
I don't want to sound like I solely antagonize Elon Musk's ideas and "genius" (please assume that I use finger air quotes here lol), but he's always had completely bad takes in the past. Even the AI conundrum I can say something about. For instance, it's not AI that's been causing all this ruckus. It's humans using AI for the most nefarious reasons. Have you seen meme pages across the whole internet using AI models like chatgpt to actuate stupid shit? Just a few weeks ago I saw someone post about bypassing the content blocks of ChatGPT to make it narrate how to create napalm/crystal meth in the jive of an old grandma telling her grandkids some bedtime stories. You can't blame AI for that matter since it's not like AI can do this on its own lol.
October 16, 2023, 11:02:11 AM
It turns out that lately I very rarely support the decisions and actions of Elon Musk, except, of course, for his space programs. But here Musk is completely right. People must limit the capabilities of artificial intelligence in areas where the decisions made could threaten significant harm to humanity. No matter what anyone says about the usefulness of AI, one wrong or deliberately wrong decision could easily destroy our civilization. It is necessary to draw up general rules for working with AI and to insert into the activity programs for AI a ban on killing or harming a person. This was clearly stated in the first books of the fantasy genre. Such moments are not accidental. Because the past, present and future are closely interconnected with the theoretical ability to penetrate through time in different directions.
September 04, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.
I guess the part where the Pope is involved is what is causing this great fear, right? Before now, there have been Al images of so many people (both influential and otherwise) yet not so many people cared what was paraded. This isn't to engage in any argument in religiosity, but I think what is sauce for the goose should also be sauce for the gander. Every life should be treated as sacred, should matter. We're all mortal beings. Al usage has enabled man do certain stuff almost effortlessly and shouldn't just be discharged because of its perceived demerits. It should be regulated, that's all; and not just be stopped. It surely needs to be regulated. I remember watching a YouTube vlog/documentary about this, wherein they put celebrities' faces on 18+ content creators and sell those videos. As much as a lot of people may think that it is not dangerous or not that impactful, just imagine how much it can effect or ruin someone's life if their faces and voices were used to do something that ruin their images or have troubles against the law. Such a thing can even cause a national problem if politicians' faces and voices were used to deliver fake messages and announcements.
September 04, 2023, 09:43:29 PM
One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
Chat GPT can have Bitcoin private keys if some people carelessly or mistakenly copy and paste their private keys on that software and enter. Search engines like Google, Bing, Duckduckgo can have Bitcoin private keys too as I am sure there are people did that mistake.It's not big deal if after making mistake, they instantly move their bitcoin to a new wallet and abandon that leaked wallet. If they don't proactively do this, their bitcoin can be stolen by Chat GPT team or any members from search engines who can access big data bases and are greed to still bitcoins from victims.
September 04, 2023, 09:10:43 PM
One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
Not sure about that though, another question is that, does chatgpt has the ability to buy or sell one? Well, this is going to be one of the risk associated with the continuous development in AI industry. Though the risks has yet to be identified particularly, but time will come that it could do more harm to humanity than what it has done good to us.
AI will surely have an effects physically and mentally and it's not gonna be a good one, not for this us (most likely) but with the next coming generations.
They may halt the development, but they'll continue eventually as it will generate limitless streams of income for them.
September 04, 2023, 07:55:02 PM
The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.
I guess the part where the Pope is involved is what is causing this great fear, right? Before now, there have been Al images of so many people (both influential and otherwise) yet not so many people cared what was paraded. This isn't to engage in any argument in religiosity, but I think what is sauce for the goose should also be sauce for the gander. Every life should be treated as sacred, should matter. We're all mortal beings. Al usage has enabled man do certain stuff almost effortlessly and shouldn't just be discharged because of its perceived demerits. It should be regulated, that's all; and not just be stopped. 
September 04, 2023, 04:16:24 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen AI do some amazing things with music, such as create cover songs with singers who've been dead for a long time--and the stuff on Youtube that I've listened to is pretty damn amazing (like this video).
But then I think about not how blown away I am that this could be done, but to what evil purposes AI-driven shit is, has, or will be put to and what effect it's going to have on society. Right now it seems like the sky--or your imagination--is the limit, and that's effin' frightening. And no matter who calls for a pause on AI development....I think the horses are all out of the barn with that already. Unless lawmakers start legally restricting it, it's not going to be stopped.
And even if laws were written, what do you think the chances are that hackers, anarchists, people with good or bad intentions, anyone, is going to abide by them? My guess would be about 2%, and that's not enough to stem whatever disaster awaits (and I'm nearly certain there will in fact be an AI disaster at some point).
Well said, and I must say you have covered the pros and cons as I always think about it. The first issue here is about individual countries, they could be selfish, so it's beyond the lawmakers and what is happening in one country but how the world is now perceiving AI as the next generation project and no country wants to take the backseat on this as long they have all it takes. This might cause many countries' leaders to look away, and this calls for urgent debate and deliberation by all the world leaders to come to a reasonable conclusion on how to work things around AI so that it will not cause more issues than the ease it tends to offer.But then I think about not how blown away I am that this could be done, but to what evil purposes AI-driven shit is, has, or will be put to and what effect it's going to have on society. Right now it seems like the sky--or your imagination--is the limit, and that's effin' frightening. And no matter who calls for a pause on AI development....I think the horses are all out of the barn with that already. Unless lawmakers start legally restricting it, it's not going to be stopped.
And even if laws were written, what do you think the chances are that hackers, anarchists, people with good or bad intentions, anyone, is going to abide by them? My guess would be about 2%, and that's not enough to stem whatever disaster awaits (and I'm nearly certain there will in fact be an AI disaster at some point).
Thankfully, according to what I read in Punch newspaper last week, global leaders are expected to converge in November to discuss issues like privacy and existential threat, bias and openness, international coordination, liability, copyright, possible effect on employment, computing power, transparency, data and many more.
With this and more cooperation from the entire world, it will be easier to regulate it in one voice.
September 04, 2023, 02:11:50 AM
As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.
In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.
However, if we go with stories shown in movies such as Avengers and many others where an AI created by a human gets into a robotic body and becomes an enemy of humanity, gathers its own team, and starts destroying the world for good. These things are just fictional and can't be real at all.
September 02, 2023, 05:35:14 AM
By this time in 2023, AI technology will have become noisy. Many people are happy, but many are also worried about what it can bring to our society. Others are worried because AI can fill the jobs that people have now, which will be favorable to the employer who pays the employees. Because ten employees can be worked by one AI robot. This is just one of the reasons others are concerned.
But from another angle, AI is still helpful in the questions that people think of that AI can quickly provide through chatgpt and others like it. But there are also some advantages and disadvantages that AI can bring, and this is the source link below.
But from another angle, AI is still helpful in the questions that people think of that AI can quickly provide through chatgpt and others like it. But there are also some advantages and disadvantages that AI can bring, and this is the source link below.
September 01, 2023, 05:33:53 PM
As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.
In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.
It is very obvious that the bad guys are also looking for ways to utilize the system to favour them to scam innocent people. In as much as it as more good uses than evil then I see nothing wrong with AI. People are vastly using it to complete there jobs and make live easier for them and we ought to stop looking at the bad side rather than to Concentrate on making it a better tools for all.
September 01, 2023, 05:21:40 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen AI do some amazing things with music, such as create cover songs with singers who've been dead for a long time--and the stuff on Youtube that I've listened to is pretty damn amazing (like this video).
But then I think about not how blown away I am that this could be done, but to what evil purposes AI-driven shit is, has, or will be put to and what effect it's going to have on society. Right now it seems like the sky--or your imagination--is the limit, and that's effin' frightening. And no matter who calls for a pause on AI development....I think the horses are all out of the barn with that already. Unless lawmakers start legally restricting it, it's not going to be stopped.
And even if laws were written, what do you think the chances are that hackers, anarchists, people with good or bad intentions, anyone, is going to abide by them? My guess would be about 2%, and that's not enough to stem whatever disaster awaits (and I'm nearly certain there will in fact be an AI disaster at some point).
But then I think about not how blown away I am that this could be done, but to what evil purposes AI-driven shit is, has, or will be put to and what effect it's going to have on society. Right now it seems like the sky--or your imagination--is the limit, and that's effin' frightening. And no matter who calls for a pause on AI development....I think the horses are all out of the barn with that already. Unless lawmakers start legally restricting it, it's not going to be stopped.
And even if laws were written, what do you think the chances are that hackers, anarchists, people with good or bad intentions, anyone, is going to abide by them? My guess would be about 2%, and that's not enough to stem whatever disaster awaits (and I'm nearly certain there will in fact be an AI disaster at some point).
September 01, 2023, 05:14:27 PM
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March 29 (Reuters) - Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts and industry executives are calling for a six-month pause in developing systems more powerful than OpenAI's newly launched GPT-4, in an open letter citing potential risks to society.
Earlier this month, Microsoft-backed OpenAI unveiled the fourth iteration of its GPT (Generative Pre-trained Transformer) AI program, which has wowed users by engaging them in human-like conversation, composing songs and summarising lengthy documents.
"Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable," said the letter issued by the Future of Life Institute.
Earlier this month, Microsoft-backed OpenAI unveiled the fourth iteration of its GPT (Generative Pre-trained Transformer) AI program, which has wowed users by engaging them in human-like conversation, composing songs and summarising lengthy documents.
"Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable," said the letter issued by the Future of Life Institute.
After the recent events of the fake AI generated photo of Pope the risks to the society are clear.
Technology personalities and even people from other areas such as Yuval Harari have been telling the risks of AI for years.
Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.
One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
The trouble with Elon is you don't really know his angle, as he has been so manipulative with people in the past - it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf. He had bad intentions previously, so now people are more likely to ignore what he says. Who knows if his companies have fallen behind in the race and he's just trying to engineer against his competitors in the market place. There is definitely some ill perceived dangers involved with AI, where it may simply reach a tipping point - like skynet from the terminator - when it bridges the gap and becomes sentient. By that time it may be too late, but nobody experimenting with it now actually understands when that limit may be.
September 01, 2023, 05:00:44 PM
As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.
In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.
September 01, 2023, 06:05:57 AM
Quite often, a person makes his decisions not with reason, but on the basis of emotions in a certain situation. This is what distinguishes AI from humans as well. The intellect can make decisions purely on logical conclusions, grounds. He does not tend to empathize, sympathize, etc. Therefore, there may be problems that will result in something that is scary to think about. This should never be forgotten.
If we look at the basics, there are indeed many things that distinguish AI from all humans on this earth. Because the AI that we have seen now is the result of human work which was deliberately designed for certain needs, so many things will not be the same as human things, even though we can all see AI that is shaped like a human physique so that it can operate things. But for things that are logical, empathy and sympathy clearly will not exist in a machine or robot because all of these things are found in humans.
In conclusion, AI will not be as perfect as humans because every human creation from human hands still requires special control from its creator or from humans themselves so that every human creation will not be able to surpass humans in all things. Although a robot will not get tired easily unless it only overheats if used excessively and it also has a special service life and maintenance so that every device in it can continue to last. So I also agree more with Elon Musk's insistence on ending AI because his reasons are also quite logical and he is also more concerned about the risks that could arise for the wider community.
September 01, 2023, 04:52:43 AM
As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.
In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.
Your argument that the creator trying to charge more fee and nerf the free version is a good point and kinda make sense. But I still can't wrap the idea on how AI can get smarter than human if they learn from Human. It's true that they might have more information and can access those information more quickly and easily than human, but their nature of processing those information and making decision based on those information won't be so much different from human, since they learn from human.
Quite often, a person makes his decisions not with reason, but on the basis of emotions in a certain situation. This is what distinguishes AI from humans as well. The intellect can make decisions purely on logical conclusions, grounds. He does not tend to empathize, sympathize, etc. Therefore, there may be problems that will result in something that is scary to think about. This should never be forgotten. Jump to: