Elon Musk and the fall of Twitter - page 17.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on April 03, 2023, 07:31:55 AM

I just subscribed to Twitter Blue. Well honestly I can't exactly say its worth. It definitely buff you somewhat. I realized my overall interactions increased dramatically. I engage more people. But some things with app is broken. Sometimes I can see tweets of people I don't follow etc. I feel like Elon Musk tries hard to save Twitter but their ad revenue was important. He should definitely make Twitter Blue more desirable. I subbed for a year just to see what he is gonna do. He should change algorithms. I like some things he did with blue like customization etc but you should let people to do much more to have loyal subs.

I would say you shouldn't have done that, not because of anything related to Elon Musk, I mean the owner of a place you use doesn't really matter all that much, but because blue doesn't really give you anything worthy.

Depends on where you live, most people in the USA wouldn't even bat an eye on 8 bucks a month, that's nothing to them, but there are people living with 200-300 dollars a month salaries, so it wouldn't be possible for those people to justify that much money, wouldn't make sense. Plus the free version is still free and you still get to use it however you want without any trouble. Unless they start to use limitations to non-blue people, then it just doesn't worth it.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on March 26, 2023, 09:59:51 AM

Well said, my friend, you actually said my mind. Elon Musk thought it was business as usual thinking he can venture into anything and get it done better. Well, the Twitter purchase has put him on the wrong note, even the Tesla shares dropped so significantly. You see, if someone is touching almost everything and such things become successful, they see themselves as one demigod.

But not in all cases, social media is a different space entirely, especially when you are doing things that are anti-social media itself. He thought he can monetize everything better, but it boomerangs.

Sadly, not everything is done with money and business. Yes, Elon Musk has got everything when it comes to money and intelligence, but he is a big failure when it comes to humanity. Well, if he has been being selfless and compassionate in the first place, he would have succeeded his new owned business in the name of Twitter, but i guess his being anti-social media have made negative effect on the business and now its near to its downfall. I just hope that Elon Musk will still manage his other businesses to skyrocket again just like before he bought Twitter.

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I just subscribed to Twitter Blue. Well honestly I can't exactly say its worth. It definitely buff you somewhat. I realized my overall interactions increased dramatically. I engage more people. But some things with app is broken. Sometimes I can see tweets of people I don't follow etc. I feel like Elon Musk tries hard to save Twitter but their ad revenue was important. He should definitely make Twitter Blue more desirable. I subbed for a year just to see what he is gonna do. He should change algorithms. I like some things he did with blue like customization etc but you should let people to do much more to have loyal subs.

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I think he is a genius, it doesn't matter if not all of his efforts are good, at least in some sectors that are recognized and needed by the world, Tesla and Space X are one of them.
but I think he bought twitter for a further purpose and reason that other people don't know about yet.

No question of his geniuses but not all things he can handle, some may not work according to his plan.
Okay, let us assume that he has some intention of acquiring Twitter but can't please some people to believe that it is working well, instead it gains negativity. Exactly, we never know his plan and we hope he shows something more interesting and runs this platform successfully, and make prove the wrong perceptions that most people are seeing now.

I agree with you. A businessman can never expert in everything. Elon Musk may be a better platform creator than Twitter, but he can't do well in Twitter. Because there is a big difference between his way of thinking and the way millions of people think about social communication. Most of the decisions he has taken on Twitter in recent times have not been accepted with the public. It would be good decision if someone who runs social media get the responsibility to conduct the platform.

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Quote from: slashz9 on April 03, 2023, 02:56:14 AM

I think he is a genius, it doesn't matter if not all of his efforts are good, at least in some sectors that are recognized and needed by the world, Tesla and Space X are one of them.
but I think he bought twitter for a further purpose and reason that other people don't know about yet.

No question of his geniuses but not all things he can handle, some may not work according to his plan.
Okay, let us assume that he has some intention of acquiring Twitter but can't please some people to believe that it is working well, instead it gains negativity. Exactly, we never know his plan and we hope he shows something more interesting and runs this platform successfully, and make prove the wrong perceptions that most people are seeing now.

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I think he is a genius, it doesn't matter if not all of his efforts are good, at least in some sectors that are recognized and needed by the world, Tesla and Space X are one of them.
but I think he bought twitter for a further purpose and reason that other people don't know about yet.

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Quote from: Rabata on March 26, 2023, 06:00:35 AM

Although he is financially one of the richest businessmen in the world, it is also worth noting that the share prices of his other companies could fall through losses on his Twitter purchase. In my opinion his main mistake was disregarding public sentiment. What is your concern?

He is a genius and he will certainly surprise you and everyone.

Maybe not all his companies will skyrocket, but most of them are

Let's not confuse Elon's eccentric personality with his abilities and virtues, which he clearly has.

This is so true. The guy is shockingly smart. He founded SpaceX at the age of 30 I believe. Who the heck would be crazy enough to found a rocket company at that age? And how is he the chief designer for his rockets? I always wondered whether that is really true. Of course he hired engineers, but still that's an unreal achievement. All these companies that he has and how he has the majority control over space due to his satellites.

I am quite sure that he has a plan for Twitter and knows how to turn things around, but he also already admitted that there will be bumps in the road and that they are experimenting, trying to figure out what people might need or want. A lot of the things he founded complement each other. But it's also interesting how consequent he is and that he decided to let OpenAi go because it isn't anymore open source. Usually one would think that everything he does is aiming at becoming richer, but he seems to have some serious principles that he sticks to. Twitter is probably just another piece of a puzzle that he has in mind.

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Quote from: mich on April 01, 2023, 03:16:45 AM

Well I do not think Elon was buying twitter with big plans for making profit. He is just wanting to be in control of it and have powers to make changes. He has so much money what does it bother him.
And now he has made source code for Twitters recommendation algorithm public. Making for more transparency for Twitter. https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-makes-content-recommendation-code-public-2023-03-31/

If you do have the money then you could buy everything you do want and on whats up with your interest, most of businessman or billionaires would really be coming after for profits but there are ones who do really go after about their interest.If Elon did buy Twitter for the sake on having that good control about information been shared up or speaking about contents that been shared up then he could do as he do like.
If this new management turns out to be a failure then expect that there would be a loss. Elon is totally aware of it, does it bother that him much? We dont know on whats up into his mind.
There's no way that we could know on whats their next plan.

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Quote from: bluebit25 on March 26, 2023, 09:09:06 AM

IMO, Elon Musk is a talented businessman and has made significant contributions to the industry and society. However, his frequent use of Twitter to make controversial news and his decision to acquire Twitter could devalue the shares of his other companies. This can make investors and the public worried about the future of those companies.

Elon Musk's failure to properly appreciate the impact of his actions and words on the public and the market. Disregard for public sentiment can lead to a loss of investor and customer confidence, damaging the reputation and value of his companies.

since the controversial purchase of Twitter by Elon Musk, the value of Twitter has slowly declined in the hands of Elon Musk. I agree with you that everyone has their own expertise, Elun Musk has been very successful with Tesla and SpaceX car technology. but doing business in cyberspace, I think it is much different from what he did at his previous company.
Also added to the musk elun policies on Twitter that make Twitter users may leave it

It decline because he had made a lot of change in the company. He had lay off a lot of its employees, and even those in the top position are not even spared ny Elon when he goes full revamp.

And investors doesn't want to see thing happening not just on Twitter or any company for that matter, because it gave them bad connotation. And with that the price plummet as a reflection of that. Anyhow, I think Elon accomplished what he wanted in the beginning, have a social platform that he can used in his favor.

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Quote from: mich on April 01, 2023, 03:16:45 AM

Well I do not think Elon was buying twitter with big plans for making profit. He is just wanting to be in control of it and have powers to make changes. He has so much money what does it bother him.

Exactly this. He wants more power and that led to more money in other various areas. Twitter itself doesn't have to be profitable. The effects of having an ownership of Twitter comes with a lot of benefits.

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Quote from: bluebit25 on March 26, 2023, 09:09:06 AM

IMO, Elon Musk is a talented businessman and has made significant contributions to the industry and society. However, his frequent use of Twitter to make controversial news and his decision to acquire Twitter could devalue the shares of his other companies. This can make investors and the public worried about the future of those companies.

Elon Musk's failure to properly appreciate the impact of his actions and words on the public and the market. Disregard for public sentiment can lead to a loss of investor and customer confidence, damaging the reputation and value of his companies.

since the controversial purchase of Twitter by Elon Musk, the value of Twitter has slowly declined in the hands of Elon Musk. I agree with you that everyone has their own expertise, Elun Musk has been very successful with Tesla and SpaceX car technology. but doing business in cyberspace, I think it is much different from what he did at his previous company.
Also added to the musk elun policies on Twitter that make Twitter users may leave it

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Well I do not think Elon was buying twitter with big plans for making profit. He is just wanting to be in control of it and have powers to make changes. He has so much money what does it bother him.
And now he has made source code for Twitters recommendation algorithm public. Making for more transparency for Twitter. https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-makes-content-recommendation-code-public-2023-03-31/

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Musk is a great entrepreneur. When he really wants to shake up an industry by building a company he does amazing things.

And then there is Twitter. Which was a pure ego buy. Unfortunately the past few years Musk has gotten more and more...eccentric and egomaniacal. Buying Twitter was a pure ego move that was obviously not going to end well. And then he completely gutted the company and turned it into complete chaos.

Musk needs to stick to running the companies he has built rather than stroking his ego by buying other companies thinking he can revolutionize them by gutting them and running them like a looney toon dictator.

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Elon Musk, who has been proven to be the world's top businessman, of course, has good experience developing Twitter. If Twitter seems to be falling now, then there will be another strategy from Elon Musk to make Twitter the best social media. Let's wait another 2 or 3 years. What's the big mission? from elon musk can make twitter successful.

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Quote from: Crypto2525 on March 30, 2023, 12:54:33 PM

He is a genius and he will certainly surprise you and everyone.

Let's not confuse Elon's eccentric personality with his abilities and virtues, which he clearly has.

elon musk is indeed a very genius person, many surprising things have been produced from elon's genius (tesla, Paypal, and spaceX). Having big companies like Tesla and Spacex proves that Elon Musk is indeed a genius. even as a child he could make a game called Blaster, since he was a child, Elon Musk has been fond of reading. so it's no wonder that everything that comes out of his mouth and all his actions are always in the spotlight that is hotly discussed.

and now regarding the matter of Twitter which has not escaped controversy, what Elon Musk did from the beginning intending to buy Twitter until the trial and finally buying Twitter, has always been in the spotlight. and lately elon musk has a new problem regarding his new asset (twitter). Twitter is now experiencing a significant decline after several months of being held by elon musk. whether it's intentional or not, but what's certain is that Elon isn't a god, of course he's the same as an ordinary human who has strengths and weaknesses.

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Quote from: Supreemo on March 30, 2023, 06:08:45 AM

sad to say but it is not only his business fell but also his reputation. due to his inconsistent behavior towards investment and even management as the owner of a company, a lot of investors don't want to risk their money on that. not only he lost his credibility but also a lot of workers refuse to work for him. if I were an employee too I wouldn't risk working for him knowing that there is no guarantee whether we rise or fall depends on our CEO. we all agree that he is a genius when it comes to developing things and predicting the future, also he is a visionary in some sense but does it make him a genius too when handling business? I didn't see any proof so far.

do we still think that Twitter had fallen? Nothing like that man and I can't still believe that many people thinks Elon Musk is not an happy man even with what had happened since all these while. I believe Elon Musk knows what he is doing and he's going to get to where is he's expiring to get to soon. There are a lot of opportunities wait for him to get to where he wants to be and he will surely get there. Even though it looks like his business had fallen but I think he's a wise man that knows how to play his game very well. In few years coming Elon Musk may become the richest again with no one meeting him.

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Quote from: |MINER| on March 31, 2023, 03:19:26 PM

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IMO, Elon Musk is a talented businessman and has made significant contributions to the industry and society. However, his frequent use of Twitter to make controversial news and his decision to acquire Twitter could devalue the shares of his other companies. This can make investors and the public worried about the future of those companies.

Elon Musk's failure to properly appreciate the impact of his actions and words on the public and the market. Disregard for public sentiment can lead to a loss of investor and customer confidence, damaging the reputation and value of his companies.

Yes Elon Fish is a very talented person and he knows how to run a business which is why he owns some big companies he bought Twitter I don't see any failing in him. Because Twitter's market cap has increased by 7.64% this year from last year. But Facebook's marketcap is 13.70x more than Twitter's. But I think as talented as Elon Musk is, after four/five years Twitter and Facebook will complete head to head in terms of market cap. Twitter being a secure social media has not yet gained as much popularity as Facebook, so Twitter's market cap is much lower than Facebook's. However, if Twitter is used by big celebrities and heads of government of different countries, Twitter is very valuable in this site.

Competing with Facebook is a long time coming for Twitter. Because after five years if Twitter goes to Facebook's position today. But Facebook will not sit in this position for these five years. After five years, Facebook will have improved a lot and its market cap will increase a lot. So Twitter cannot be compared to Facebook in any way. Facebook's new technology Meta is a technology with great potential for the future. In terms of market cap, Facebook is at number of ranking is 9 but Twitter is at rank 413 which is a huge difference.

It is true that Facebook is currently ahead of Twitter in many terms, but I think that in the long-term, Facebook may fall behind Twitter. Because Twitter platform is much more secure and powerful than Facebook for business and big projects. And since Elon Musk is only just getting started with Twitter, let's see where the latter is ahead of the competition. Moreover, I think one thing is that quality plays a bigger factor than quantity.

Yes Twitter is must secure social media that's why must of the reputable person use Twitter and Facebook is used by all common people. For this, Twitter marketcap is less but its reputation is much better than Facebook. After Elon Musk bought Twitter and introduced a paid system for verify badges, many users decided to quit Twitter, but they couldn't because of their huge fan following. It's ridiculous that elon musk ex girlfriend's account was suspended. Elon Musk is a strange man

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Quote from: |MINER| on March 31, 2023, 03:19:26 PM

It is true that Facebook is currently ahead of Twitter in many terms, but I think that in the long-term, Facebook may fall behind Twitter. Because Twitter platform is much more secure and powerful than Facebook for business and big projects. And since Elon Musk is only just getting started with Twitter, let's see where the latter is ahead of the competition. Moreover, I think one thing is that quality plays a bigger factor than quantity.

Twitter is superior to Facebook in terms of business and big projects, especially regarding crypto and stock indexes but Facebook is still focused on social media to interact in various activities, so the two competitors have different advantages and are not competitive with each other even though both are giant social media, everyone have accounts on both and of course the accounts are in different use cases, but the advantage of twitter is that every artist, project CEO, influencer, has an official account and they are active in responding to the responses on the twitter account.

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Quote from: coinerer on March 31, 2023, 05:54:21 AM

Quote from: leonair on March 31, 2023, 04:46:21 AM

Quote from: bluebit25 on March 26, 2023, 09:09:06 AM

IMO, Elon Musk is a talented businessman and has made significant contributions to the industry and society. However, his frequent use of Twitter to make controversial news and his decision to acquire Twitter could devalue the shares of his other companies. This can make investors and the public worried about the future of those companies.

Elon Musk's failure to properly appreciate the impact of his actions and words on the public and the market. Disregard for public sentiment can lead to a loss of investor and customer confidence, damaging the reputation and value of his companies.

Yes Elon Fish is a very talented person and he knows how to run a business which is why he owns some big companies he bought Twitter I don't see any failing in him. Because Twitter's market cap has increased by 7.64% this year from last year. But Facebook's marketcap is 13.70x more than Twitter's. But I think as talented as Elon Musk is, after four/five years Twitter and Facebook will complete head to head in terms of market cap. Twitter being a secure social media has not yet gained as much popularity as Facebook, so Twitter's market cap is much lower than Facebook's. However, if Twitter is used by big celebrities and heads of government of different countries, Twitter is very valuable in this site.

Competing with Facebook is a long time coming for Twitter. Because after five years if Twitter goes to Facebook's position today. But Facebook will not sit in this position for these five years. After five years, Facebook will have improved a lot and its market cap will increase a lot. So Twitter cannot be compared to Facebook in any way. Facebook's new technology Meta is a technology with great potential for the future. In terms of market cap, Facebook is at number of ranking is 9 but Twitter is at rank 413 which is a huge difference.

It is true that Facebook is currently ahead of Twitter in many terms, but I think that in the long-term, Facebook may fall behind Twitter. Because Twitter platform is much more secure and powerful than Facebook for business and big projects. And since Elon Musk is only just getting started with Twitter, let's see where the latter is ahead of the competition. Moreover, I think one thing is that quality plays a bigger factor than quantity.

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Quote from: jayce on March 31, 2023, 04:14:12 AM

In fact he isn't doing what he has planned, which if he really doesn't care about the economy, what's the point of him to charge blue tick for twitter users then. Even it makes Twitter less trusted because anyone could buy that mark now. I think his purpose of buying Twitter is bigger than those lame reasons.

In the end we can conclude that Elon Musk bought Twitter as nothing more than a business and what he wants to achieve is a much bigger financial level than before. Whatever other reasons he disclosed or did not convey, in the end, business people still pursue profit and nothing more.

In relation to politics it is absolutely undeniable that he will get something of an advantage even though he has to deal with power and maybe it's still too early to link this relationship, let's see if that has anything to do with this going forward.

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