Elon Musk and the fall of Twitter - page 12.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 14, 2023, 01:32:24 AM

Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.

honestly, I didn’t notice big changes with the arrival of Elon Musk to manage Twitter, I read it more than I post, maybe that’s why I don’t notice changes, content of a different nature is still present on the platform than I like it and I like that there are no strong restrictions. Now I'm watching the Threads and I don't see much interest from users to go there because there is more censorship and there is no such freedom of speech as on Twitter, according to my observations.

Basically, both applications have their own advantages and disadvantages,
initially since the launch of Threads a lot of people started switching but now back to Twitter again,
hope that with Threads it will create competition and we'll see how far it lasts.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 14, 2023, 01:32:24 AM

Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.

honestly, I didn’t notice big changes with the arrival of Elon Musk to manage Twitter, I read it more than I post, maybe that’s why I don’t notice changes, content of a different nature is still present on the platform than I like it and I like that there are no strong restrictions. Now I'm watching the Threads and I don't see much interest from users to go there because there is more censorship and there is no such freedom of speech as on Twitter, according to my observations.

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Quote from: freedomgo on July 09, 2023, 12:24:29 PM

Exactly! It doesn't even deserved to be called as the Twitter's competitor just because of it's similarities and that's just unrealistic to think, we all know that Twitter has been in the world for quite some time now and it will turn to its 20th year this 2026. This Thread will not even surpass half of the Twitter's achievements, not even a bit, it's just that people are dying to try what it can do but yes I agree, after a few months, they will all go back to Twitter.

Twitter is on fire as soon as 'Elon musk' officially took control of twitter at the same time, first of all from the office of twitter the CEO of twitter that is Parag Agarwal of India was shown the way out. The biggest reason for which was that Parag Aggarwal told Elon musk on the deal between twitter that the future of twitter is now in danger but he hardy new that, in reality his future was in danger in twitter. After this, the CFO of twitter Ned Segal was also fired from the job. Even twitter's chief advisor Vijaya Gadde, who banned Trump's account from twitter was also dismissed by Elon musk.

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Quote from: Marykeller on July 14, 2023, 02:21:21 PM

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The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.

For Twitter, Elon Musk does have a backup strategy. Before purchasing it, he had his strategy all in place. He established the adjustments and policies in order to monetize Twitter and use it for personal financial gain.

Of recent, Elon Musk shared $5 million to creators on Twitter. The $5 million to be shared is gotten from Ad revenues from replies.

This is the first time it has occurred in the history of social media platforms. No social media network has ever carried out such an action.

Link for the info: https://dataconomy.com/2023/07/14/twitter-ad-revenue-sharing-how-to/

It's not yet known to the masses and if this is like a revenue-sharing model fro content creators then it has to be known by the other content creators from other social networks. With this, the other social networks are going to be more competitive and will only make the competition better so that we'll be having more quality content creators staying on these platforms. This is a sustainable business model for him and it will attract more advertisers and traffic.

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Quote from: passwordnow on July 14, 2023, 11:25:35 AM

The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.

For Twitter, Elon Musk does have a backup strategy. Before purchasing it, he had his strategy all in place. He established the adjustments and policies in order to monetize Twitter and use it for personal financial gain.

Of recent, Elon Musk shared $5 million to creators on Twitter. The $5 million to be shared is gotten from Ad revenues from replies.

This is the first time it has occurred in the history of social media platforms. No social media network has ever carried out such an action.

Link for the info: https://dataconomy.com/2023/07/14/twitter-ad-revenue-sharing-how-to/

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Twitter starts to issue out payments to verified creators in ad revenue sharing model: https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-offer-ad-revenue-share-select-content-creators-2023-07-13/

This is a big mistake IMO. Creates incentive by content creators to heighten interactions. Every verified content creator essentially becomes a paid actor/Twitter shill and decreases the quality of speech because the income correlates directly to the amount of impressions/engagement. Looking at the payments, looks like creators got some tens of thousands of dollars for their tweets. I've seen paid propaganda accounts that spread political disinformation get upwards of 25k for their garbage posting.

Note this is different than pay-to-promote tweets. I don't have an issue with that. An ad sharing model on social media decreases quality across the board as every tweet essentially becomes an ad.

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The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.

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Elon musk plays crucial role to developed most significant contributions like space exploration, renewable energy, electric vehicles, and tunneling technology. But with passing years he has been in various complications since purchasing the popular social media Twitter. Twitter has undergone numerous changes under Musk, he tried to reduce company's thousand of employees and costs and reduction was part of Musk's strategy to cut costs and steer the company towards profitability.

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Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 13, 2023, 07:32:34 PM

Personally I have always despised twitter. Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up. It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout.

But now that Elon has taken over, it's even worse. He's constantly tweeting absolutely idiotic childish moronic shit.

I mean it's hilarious that people still think of him as some sort of real life Tony Stark. Please, he's not invented a single thing in his life. A few days ago on Twitter he tweeted " Zuck is a cuck ". The man is a child, and I wished he just go away. I'm currently trying to delete my twitter but can't figure out the email I used. Grrrr

To many people, his actions or tweets are silly, childish, but for him, he has achieved the purpose of getting people's attention. Not only you, but there are a lot of people who hate Elon but also a lot of people who are crazy fans of him, so he will keep doing those silly things as long as he achieves his goal.

We cannot please everyone, many will hate us, and many will like us. Would you care about those who hate you or those who love you? Moreover, the acquisition of Twitter is not just a mere hobby of Elon, but I believe everything is related to politics, bigger things that we never know, IMO.

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It is true that a lot his choices were disapproved by many especially of course the users of the said platform however a lot of people still prefer twitter over other social media platforms. Maybe it caused a little of distrust but I don’t think twitter is gonna fall off that easily even with Threads launching. Twitter is much more user-friendly even with elon’s changes compared to Threads (not to mention its bad algorithm).

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on July 13, 2023, 04:50:02 PM

I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.

As long as Twitter doesn't make policies that incriminate its users I don't think it will make it fall,
regardless with Threads I'm happy because it will give competition which is a good thing,
so far Twitter seems to have a monopoly and without competition so we'll see what it will be like in the future.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on July 13, 2023, 04:50:02 PM

I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.

Twitter was a popular social media for celebrities. But Instagram was a rival of Twitter but now Mark Zuckerberg has brought Threads as an alternative to Twitter. Twitter is now under a lot of pressure. If Elon Musk wants to develop Twitter, he needs to adopt more new strategies to move Twitter forward. But maybe it is possible with Elon Musk. But since Mark Zuckerberg has been running Facebook since the beginning of his business. So I think Mark Zuckerberg has more knowledge about social media management than Elon Musk so it will be hard for Elon Musk to compete with Mark Zuckerberg.

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There is a large amount of possible speculation around this fact, Elon has a rather eccentric personality, and while it may be true that he has a large number of unquestionable abilities, there are certain aspects that despite his talent he does not give the best of. of the coverage, the management of most of the dependencies under his responsibility, is far from the dynamic that is naturalized in twitter and unfortunately this has managed to be noticed in the results that he has obtained with it, and although several people say or intuit that there may be a purpose behind this, I personally doubt it and it is even among so many factors, he is still a human being and is susceptible to making mistakes or not making the best decisions on certain occasions.

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Personally I have always despised twitter. Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up. It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout.

But now that Elon has taken over, it's even worse. He's constantly tweeting absolutely idiotic childish moronic shit.

I mean it's hilarious that people still think of him as some sort of real life Tony Stark. Please, he's not invented a single thing in his life. A few days ago on Twitter he tweeted " Zuck is a cuck ". The man is a child, and I wished he just go away. I'm currently trying to delete my twitter but can't figure out the email I used. Grrrr

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I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.

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This shouldn't surprise anyone, I really wish when he decided not to buy twitter, the owners sued him and forced him to buy basically. Obviously they had legal basis for it and managed to do it, and Elon of course acted as if that's what he wanted all along but we all know he was ordered to either buy it, or pay a hefty sum (something along 10 billion lines) so it made more sense to buy it for 40 billion then give up and have nothing for 10 billion. But because he was forced, now we are seeing why that was a bad decision, sure twitter old owners and shareholders probably made some big bank thanks to that, but the whole world is suffering because of that decision at the same time.

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Yes, Twitter is going down. Elon Musk has continuously negative changes that worsen our experience while using the app. Imagine him implementing temporary limits on reading posts, which restricts the number of posts users can view per day based on their account type. He implement this temporal limits without even thinking that this would hinder users from accessing information. This would not in any way encourage people to purchase Twitter Blue as he thinks. The monetization efforts of Twitter, such as charging $8 a month for Twitter Blue and making certain features exclusive to paid users is the most stupidest idea. People are leaving Twitter soon, it would be like a ghost town.

- www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/elon-musk-wor...-month-11549741.html
- www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-outage-prompts-response-from-elon-musk/

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Quote from: cydrix on July 12, 2023, 11:22:44 PM

I anticipated problems the moment he bought a Twitter account because he believed he could use it to manage Twitter in the same way he does with altcoin projects, but there is still plenty to learn. I think the prior owner of Twitter might not provide those secrets to him, and believe it or not, if further time passes without action, the previous owner will return to acquire back Elon Musk's company. His issues began when he fired those employees, who, in my opinion, formed the backbone of Twitter and were better equipped to run it than the people he now employs, not to mention the limitations he imposes on them. As for me, I never imagined he would act in such a way without first investigating the Twitter algorithm before firing any employees.

Perhaps the option to fire employees was not a good one, but it was the most logical step to reduce costs, because he would not be able to pay them after losing that huge amount to complete the deal at a time when the platform has not been profitable for years.
I think it's not a good move, but it's not wrong anyway. There are expectations that there is a will to increase the number of employees if the platform succeeds in overcoming its current crisis, especially since other Elon Musk companies do not make profits either.

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Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.

It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.

As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.

Actually, we shouldn't be too surprised by the growth in the number of users on the Threads Platform because the number will indeed be very easy to continue to grow. because everyone who has an Instagram account will be able to directly access and import their Instagram account to Threads. The ease of access is what makes it easy for people to try Threads.

For now, Threads still has a lot to add. Because there is no thread edit feature, no DM and many more. Even on Playstore (in my country area) I see the rating is still in the 3+ range. The point is user satisfaction who tried it is still not too high. Everyone who is active on social media on Instagram, the majority will definitely try Threads. because even from the Threads Application to Instagram we can switch applications with just one click on the Instagram icon in the upper right corner of Threads. so that Instagram users can certainly move between applications easily.
the initial launch is still in the hype. so let's watch a year from now. if the number continues to grow rapidly and active users can also survive the extraordinary increase as it is today then of course Twitter will panic at that time.

It's always good to have a platform alternative. This brings competition. Here we see a strong alternative. A lot of users joined the platform in a short time. Of course, this is due to the ease of registration method.

Elon is losing too many users with the choices he made. These users did not leave twitter and go to the other application. They currently have accounts in both apps.

The question is, will users who get angry with twitter return to twitter again or will they stay in the new application and close their twitter accounts?

At the first launch of Threads I think Elon lost a lot of users though not completely,
we know for ourselves that in just a few days Threads can be said to attract a lot of people and that's good because it will give competition,
I think Twitter is still ahead as long as Elon doesn't impose restrictions which will make users angry.

I think threads is actually a good alternative to Twitter since it's already connected to IG. Since in some countries like mine which is PH, Facebook is much more popular app to use which is handled by Zuckerberg. That's why I think people would jump to threads as they will try the new feature where they can compare to Twitter. But we all know Twitter have its side where there's no restricted thing there. The reason why people loved to use Twitter. After they use threads they will just back to Twitter. Even without Elon Musk I still believe that Twitter will be an independent app where a lot of users love.

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